Luck Brings First Gameplay Footage of Fallout: New Vegas
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To me, it looks like an expansion pack for Fallout 3. And the animations suck because that hellspawn of an engine Bethesda always uses is optimized for a toolkit, for modding. That's why things are so...I dunno, unfocused? Sloppy? Buggy? That one. Buggy. The animations don't look much improved from Oblivion honestly. I'm sure they could have tweaked it a little bit.
I agree with your appropriate pessimism, but the Fallout 3 engine wasn't too buggy to necessarily ruin gameplay (maybe the rare occasion or so.) Also, Obsidian is using the same core of Fallout 3, so I can't see too many issues with bugs. All I've seen from screenshots and videos is that they're take Fallout 3 and improving some aspects. And since they helped write Fallout 1 and 2, the storytelling will be much better. I can easily see this being Game of the Year, or close to it.Irridium said:
Fallout 3 was never too stable for me. It was much better than Oblivion, thats for sure, but it still had its problems. Granted most of those problems went away when I removed Games for Windows Live. So perhaps most of Fallout 3's problems stemmed from that. But still, it was up there in terms of bugs. Perhaps this time will be different, but hearing about many bugs in Alpha Protocol doesn't give me much hope.dashiz94 said:
And I have no doubt the story will be amazing. All of Obsidian's games have had fantastic stories. Most notably KotOR 2's. With just a little more time and polish to get rid of the bugs and if they kept in a lot of the stuff they cut, I have no doubt that game would have surpassed the first.
One thing Obsidian does well is story. Granted the endings of said stories tend to be a little... well awful.
It looks... just like Fallout 3.
I loved Fallout 3 and all, but I get concerned if a sequel is just like the original. I don't want only a new area, some new guns, and some small perks, I want something that makes it stand out from the predecessor. Something that says "Fallout 3 had this and New Vegas had this." Something to say that both games are different.
Still... grenade machine guns do make me want to play this game.
I loved Fallout 3 and all, but I get concerned if a sequel is just like the original. I don't want only a new area, some new guns, and some small perks, I want something that makes it stand out from the predecessor. Something that says "Fallout 3 had this and New Vegas had this." Something to say that both games are different.
Still... grenade machine guns do make me want to play this game.
I liked the giant spear sword thing the grey super mutant was holding, and the grenade machine gun isent too bad either.
I had a lot of problem trying to actually LIKE Fallout 3. I tried really, REALLY hard, but everywhere I looked, the game looked more like a giant mess than anything else.
The devs really had a lot of trouble organizing all the systems and items and everything so that the whole wasteland could be that big and that full of freedom. But, in the end, the game ended up more like a "Wasteland Simulator". Yes, I know the game has a lot of fans. I was probably looking forward for the game for the wrong reasons.
I thought it would provide some thrilling and compelling storytelling, memorable gameplay moments and all. The game DID have its memorable moments (for example, Tranquility Lane and the march with the Bortherhood of Steel and the giant robot in the end). But, for the most part, It felt like an "offline MMORPG" experience, only without other players to interact with. You have customization, you have exploration, you have item management, you have repetitive battles and you have very generic dialogues and quests.
I don't like MMORPGs, and the reason I like RPGs at all is because they generally have above average storytelling when compared to other genres. But I know a couple of FPS games that, at least for me, brought much more immersion and memorable moments than Fallout 3, even with the fact that I didn't have the option to choose dialogue or customize my character.
And, on top of that, the game animations were very bad, the visuals weren't nearly impressive, all dungeons looked pretty much the same, the same voice actors are used for thousands of characters and they sound totally the same, there were A LOT of bugs etc.
I admit I played the first two Fallout games very little, but I've heard they're better when it comes to storytelling and they're more consistent than F3 when it comes to general engine and systems (of course, the games are very simple and 2D, no reason to have that much bugs). I wished Fallout 3 was smaller, but more polished.
Anyway, I was getting excited for New Vegas, because of Obsidian. I'd give a new shot at Fallout, but the trailer kinda got me disapointed. They can redeem themselves by making the storytelling good, but the engine problems will most likely still be there. I'll forget about the lack of polishment if the story is really, really, REALLY great, but if it's not, I won't give the Fallout franchise another chance.
The devs really had a lot of trouble organizing all the systems and items and everything so that the whole wasteland could be that big and that full of freedom. But, in the end, the game ended up more like a "Wasteland Simulator". Yes, I know the game has a lot of fans. I was probably looking forward for the game for the wrong reasons.
I thought it would provide some thrilling and compelling storytelling, memorable gameplay moments and all. The game DID have its memorable moments (for example, Tranquility Lane and the march with the Bortherhood of Steel and the giant robot in the end). But, for the most part, It felt like an "offline MMORPG" experience, only without other players to interact with. You have customization, you have exploration, you have item management, you have repetitive battles and you have very generic dialogues and quests.
I don't like MMORPGs, and the reason I like RPGs at all is because they generally have above average storytelling when compared to other genres. But I know a couple of FPS games that, at least for me, brought much more immersion and memorable moments than Fallout 3, even with the fact that I didn't have the option to choose dialogue or customize my character.
And, on top of that, the game animations were very bad, the visuals weren't nearly impressive, all dungeons looked pretty much the same, the same voice actors are used for thousands of characters and they sound totally the same, there were A LOT of bugs etc.
I admit I played the first two Fallout games very little, but I've heard they're better when it comes to storytelling and they're more consistent than F3 when it comes to general engine and systems (of course, the games are very simple and 2D, no reason to have that much bugs). I wished Fallout 3 was smaller, but more polished.
Anyway, I was getting excited for New Vegas, because of Obsidian. I'd give a new shot at Fallout, but the trailer kinda got me disapointed. They can redeem themselves by making the storytelling good, but the engine problems will most likely still be there. I'll forget about the lack of polishment if the story is really, really, REALLY great, but if it's not, I won't give the Fallout franchise another chance.
Hey, it looks like Fallout 3.....
Wait a minute, I loved Fallout 3 - this is wonderful news! Although some people might be disappointed, I saw nothing wrong with the core gameplay of Fallout 3, and so the retention of that, coupled together with the new environments to explore, is really all I would want in a sequel. I'm curious as to what these "updates" are to the conversations, as that was one of the more tedious aspects of 3.
Wait a minute, I loved Fallout 3 - this is wonderful news! Although some people might be disappointed, I saw nothing wrong with the core gameplay of Fallout 3, and so the retention of that, coupled together with the new environments to explore, is really all I would want in a sequel. I'm curious as to what these "updates" are to the conversations, as that was one of the more tedious aspects of 3.
Hm, I'm curious - will it be as moddable as Fallout 3? Might be a dealbreaker for me, especially if the animations are what they were in FO3. Can't say much else going only with that video as base, but it looks a bit like they made the scenery look better. I like that.
I don't mind if it's more of Fallout 3, I just hope it'll be different enough. And with a better main story. And as many sidequests.
And Dogmeat.
I don't mind if it's more of Fallout 3, I just hope it'll be different enough. And with a better main story. And as many sidequests.
And Dogmeat.
This.SteelStallion said:
What's the big deal about a slightly improved combat system? It's just going to come down to V.A.T.S again, especially if they have that perk which gave you an infinite amount of the stuff.
The animations still look rubbish as well...
A man of simple pleasures.IxionIndustries said:
The problem I'm having is not whether I should preorder it or not, but what I should preorder it for. I'd love to get it on PC, but if I did I'd have to splurge on a new PC as well, something I really cannot afford at the moment. Guess I'm going to have to go PS3...
So... Does that mean you pre-ordered it five seconds after you wrote that?Ih8pkmn said:
OT: I've never been too impressed with videos of this engine, but I know it plays incredibly well, so whatever, still going to pre-order it.