Major Mass Effect 3 Ending Content Cut out Kotor 2 style (spoilers)

[JamesStone]

[h1/]I DON'T FUCKING CARE[/HEADING]

The ending to Mass Effect 3 was beautiful. Yes, there are complaints to be made, but it deserves NOTHING compared to what you people have done.

In terms of this, just stop it. There is ALWAYS more to be put into a game, but devs have to draw a line somewhere.

I left this forum for several months just to escape bullshit like this, but I can see things haven't improved.

I'll see you all in another few to check if you have gotten over this crap yet.

That's not the point. Yes, it was a good ending, it wasn't a good ending to Mass Effect. It was a ending to a completely different series, that made no sense in the context and made more holes in the plot than a fully-loaded minigun against a piece of paper. It was not the ending the series deserved. It was a rushed out, imcompatible piece of shit that deserves all the hate it is getting and more.

 

[Blachman201_v1legacy]

I honestly don't care about the "new" ending, because I enjoyed it as it was, now it's very binary and shitty to have it all come down to three distinct choices human revolution style, but otherwise I consider myself happy with the ending.

If only we actually got that...

The 3 endings is literally 90% of the same cut-scenes, frame for frame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPelM2hwhJA

It just feels so cheap.

 

[tmande2nd]

I DONT WANT PEOPLE SAYING THINGS I DONT WANT SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!

Bleh.

Ending still sucks no matter what.
Just like Liara is a creator's pet given more attention than any other 2 LI.

 

[FatalFox]

I honestly don't care about the "new" ending, because I enjoyed it as it was, now it's very binary and shitty to have it all come down to three distinct choices human revolution style, but otherwise I consider myself happy with the ending.

If only we actually got that...

The 3 endings is literally 90% of the same cut-scenes, frame for frame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPelM2hwhJA

It just feels so cheap.

Seems to me they wanted a very specific ending for it, sure it may seem lazy to basically pallete swap the ending, though one can argue that this has been the mass effect with the shortest development time yet so they had to cut corners.
The ending itself isn't bad in my opinion, sure there are ways they could've brought closure to side-plots like what happened to characters you've formed such strong relationship with, and maybe the backlash is more in context of the ending differences (or lack thereof) and the way it was presented with three binary choices, but it's an appropriate sci-fi ending in my opinion.
Endings in games have been a hit-and-miss for so long, and with so much hype and expectation, I think the Mass Effect trilogy was a victim of it's own greatness, it's definitely a difficult expectation to live up to.

 

[Freechoice]

At least that wasn't cut.

 

[Korolev]

This suggests to me that the game was rushed. Everything in ME3 is building towards a HUGE battle, involving all the assets you acquired. I am quite confident that the ending to ME3 that we got was nothing, NOTHING like what they intended to give.

But something happened. Maybe they ran out of time. Maybe EA wanted something to shore up their Quarterly report. Maybe the final section got so convoluted, so difficult and so big that they just realized that they COULDN'T finish it within the time frame. Maybe they simply got tired of working on it.

Whatever happened, I'm pretty sure that BioWare didn't want to end ME3 like they did. All their interviews, all the previous games, even ME3 itself hints at something much bigger, something much grander, something mind-blowingly awesome.... but they just couldn't do it. They couldn't pull it off, due to whatever reason. And so they put out a rushed ending with plot holes you could drive a truck through.

The reason the ending is bad is not due to any "indoctrination" nonsense or DLC plans. It was bad because it was a panicked, rush response to a deadline. It feels slip-shod, deus-ex-like, rushed and poorly written.... because it was probably cobbled together at the last minute.

The ending we got wasn't what we wanted. It wasn't even the ending planned by the original creator. And I'm pretty sure it's not even the ending BioWare wanted to put out. But it's the ending we got, and I don't know this for sure, but I'm pretty sure it's the ending some EA suit sitting behind his or her desk mandated they make because "Guys, quarterly income-based index profits have orientated themselves into a floating stock bond market share device rate hike...... in other words GET. THE. GAME. OUT. NOW. Or it's your ass out the door."

Still doesn't change the fact that ME3 is a good game overall.

In 2 to 3 years time when some at BioWare have left, we can get the real story of what happened, why the game was rushed and why the ending turned out so badly.

 

[Vault101]

I DONT WANT PEOPLE SAYING THINGS I DONT WANT SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!

Bleh.

Ending still sucks no matter what.
Just like Liara is a creator's pet given more attention than any other 2 LI.

LA LA LA LA LA ME3 WAS AWSOME LA LA INDOCTRINATION THEORY IS THE TRUTH *ahem*

while Tali is the fans to pet...

...to be fair I think Liara really grows into her own charachter in ME3

 

[Corporal Yakob]

But the Geth Primes! Orbital dropping Geth Primes! Arrrrrgh I wanted that!!!!

 

[Rogue 9]

I thought I had moved on already, but then I heard Jack's cut dialog.
Damn you for cutting this...

I would have waited D:
Now it just feels like I've been stabbed...again!

Quoted for truthiness. I completely agree with one of the commenters on the Jack Youtube video...

"I spent an entire game romancing Jack, fell in love with the character, bought the Collector's Edition and you give me 3 minutes of Jack in Mass Effect 3.

Thanks Bioware, that's a whole fscking lot."

^ This. I am mega bummed now.

It's one thing to see videos of cut romance scenes from ME1 showing that Ash and Kaiden did swing both ways originally - I can understand Bioware cutting those scenes if they changed their minds about the characters. This though... This is dialogue that they paid the voice actors to record for what sound like powerful scenes that would've made the final mission so much more epic... and it was cut completely.

It would be amazing if this was somehow added back in with the ending revision DLC. The characters that Bioware spent two or three games getting us to invest in and care about deserve a more epic send off than a chat over the communicator.

 

[Zetatrain]

Cool shit was cut because of pressure to meet deadlines from EA.

Is anyone surprised by this? Did anyone honestly believe this wouldn't happen before the game came out?

Making a deal with EA is like making a deal the devil. They'll give you short-term rewards, but fuck you in the end.

EA held it back from Christmas release, Bioware wanted more time why not just ask for more if then ending was sub-par?

I remember someone saying that Bioware wanted the release date to be pushed back to June 2012, but EA would did not approve and instead only pushed it back to March. Assuming this is true, Bioware did want more time, but EA did not give them enough time.

 

[AbstractStream]

Cool shit was cut because of pressure to meet deadlines from EA.

Is anyone surprised by this? Did anyone honestly believe this wouldn't happen before the game came out?

Making a deal with EA is like making a deal the devil. They'll give you short-term rewards, but fuck you in the end.

EA held it back from Christmas release, Bioware wanted more time why not just ask for more if then ending was sub-par?

I remember someone saying that Bioware wanted the release date to be pushed back to June 2012, but EA would did not approve and instead only pushed it back to March. Assuming this is true, Bioware did want more time, but EA did not give them enough time.

Funny that Bioware wanted the June deadline. If EA had given it to them, we would be getting the game instead of the fix up DLC from the mess that was created.

I thought I had moved on already, but then I heard Jack's cut dialog.
Damn you for cutting this...

I would have waited D:
Now it just feels like I've been stabbed...again!

Quoted for truthiness. I completely agree with one of the commenters on the Jack Youtube video...

"I spent an entire game romancing Jack, fell in love with the character, bought the Collector's Edition and you give me 3 minutes of Jack in Mass Effect 3.

Thanks Bioware, that's a whole fscking lot."

^ This. I am mega bummed now.

It's one thing to see videos of cut romance scenes from ME1 showing that Ash and Kaiden did swing both ways originally - I can understand Bioware cutting those scenes if they changed their minds about the characters. This though... This is dialogue that they paid the voice actors to record for what sound like powerful scenes that would've made the final mission so much more epic... and it was cut completely.

It would be amazing if this was somehow added back in with the ending revision DLC. The characters that Bioware spent two or three games getting us to invest in and care about deserve a more epic send off than a chat over the communicator.

Here's to hoping she is. I didn't romance Jack (though I did see the youtube videos to see what I missed), but damn she was a really well made character. Seeing her evolution from ME2 to ME3 was great, then such a touching moment was just...scrapped. I don't even...ugh.

Fucking hell.....it's really really horrible to think of what could have been while listening to those lines.

*sobs* I try not to think about it D:

 

[Soviet Heavy]

But the Geth Primes! Orbital dropping Geth Primes! Arrrrrgh I wanted that!!!!

Orbital drop into Reaper Forces commencing.
Heavy Risk.....
But the Priiiiimes

 

[370999]

It's a shame but I can't really say I'm suprised. ME 2 was meant to have part of the ending sequence be where you saw the human reaper evolve into an actual reaper but was cut due to financial reasons.

In future though, can companies work on the ending first? Or at least very early on in the development process where they have cash?

 

[Li Mu]

I like to imagine you all, as old people, maybe sitting in a retirement home with your grandkids coming to visit.
You turn to the grandkids and say, "I AM STILL SO ANGRY THAT BIOWARE SCREWED UP THE END OF MASS EFFECT 3"
The grandkids turn to you and say, "Oh Grandpa/ma not this again. It's been 63 years and you're STILL bitching about this!"


Bioware is clearly a victim of it's own success. If it had released two mediocre games, nobody would care about the ending of the third.
Many of you are ranting as though Bioware is the worst company ever and they release substandard games. Well it's strange that you should all get so upset about a 'terrible' company and it's 'terrible' games.

I understand the hurt. I know it's only been 6 weeks and you still need much more time to mourn, but life needs to go on. I really hope we wont still be getting rage threads in 6 months time...but I think we probably will.

 

[gyrobot_v1legacy]

It started with Dragon Age 2 and now reached a boiling point with Mass Effect 3, no one is going to rest until Bioware has suffered for what they have done. Too bad most people have dismissed such claims stating that most of us are insane conspiracy theorists. The problem is critics won't support us ever. They will keep taking the paid cheques and praise bioware and EA while dismissing us all.

I personally blame the COD crowd, they hate happy endings and optimism. Note how the Modern Warfare series is all grimdark.

 

[Eddie the head]

I thought the one with Jacob was funny. I am just going to say that.

 

[Buizel91]

[h1/]I DON'T FUCKING CARE[/HEADING]

The ending to Mass Effect 3 was beautiful. Yes, there are complaints to be made, but it deserves NOTHING compared to what you people have done.

In terms of this, just stop it. There is ALWAYS more to be put into a game, but devs have to draw a line somewhere.

I left this forum for several months just to escape bullshit like this, but I can see things haven't improved.

I'll see you all in another few to check if you have gotten over this crap yet.

That's not the point. Yes, it was a good ending, it wasn't a good ending to Mass Effect. It was a ending to a completely different series, that made no sense in the context and made more holes in the plot than a fully-loaded minigun against a piece of paper. It was not the ending the series deserved. It was a rushed out, imcompatible piece of shit that deserves all the hate it is getting and more.

*Yawn*

To be honest, i'm sick to death of these ME3 threads... i agree with the people that say let it drop.

The ending may be awful, it may not have been what YOU hoped for, or anyone else, but that doesn't make it okay to barrage this game with 100 tons of hatred. It's petty, and won't change a fucking thing. Be thankful Bioware are making free DLC endings, they didn't have to, and they could of made it cost, but they aren't.

But alas, what i am saying is going to go waaaayyyyy over people's heads and i'm going to get a shit storm.

Oooh, and did i mention? *yawn*

 

[pearcinator]

I just see this as further evidence of the Indoctrination Theory that they came up with because they didn't have enough time to implement the REAL ending.

So now that they have the time and the ending they released was polarizing (to say the least) I think the extended cut DLC will be the real ending they wanted to put in the game but because of time constraints weren't able to.

Of course, I could be completely wrong and it may just be wishful thinking on my part.

 

[JamesStone]

[h1/]I DON'T FUCKING CARE[/HEADING]

The ending to Mass Effect 3 was beautiful. Yes, there are complaints to be made, but it deserves NOTHING compared to what you people have done.

In terms of this, just stop it. There is ALWAYS more to be put into a game, but devs have to draw a line somewhere.

I left this forum for several months just to escape bullshit like this, but I can see things haven't improved.

I'll see you all in another few to check if you have gotten over this crap yet.

That's not the point. Yes, it was a good ending, it wasn't a good ending to Mass Effect. It was a ending to a completely different series, that made no sense in the context and made more holes in the plot than a fully-loaded minigun against a piece of paper. It was not the ending the series deserved. It was a rushed out, imcompatible piece of shit that deserves all the hate it is getting and more.

*Yawn*

To be honest, i'm sick to death of these ME3 threads... i agree with the people that say let it drop.

The ending may be awful, it may not have been what YOU hoped for, or anyone else, but that doesn't make it okay to barrage this game with 100 tons of hatred. It's petty, and won't change a fucking thing. Be thankful Bioware are making free DLC endings, they didn't have to, and they could of made it cost, but they aren't.

But alas, what i am saying is going to go waaaayyyyy over people's heads and i'm going to get a shit storm.

Oooh, and did i mention? *yawn*

So, when presented with something that cleary is just a rushed out piece of shit we should just be thankful we have that piece of shit? NO. Of course not. It may not change anything in the present, but at least it's a way to say we demand some quality, and that companies like EA can't do whatever the fuck they please without any repercussions.

Also, Bioware has to do it (The free DLC). Not because of some obligation, but to survive. Dragon Age 2 was a shit storm as well. People were channeling all their hope in Bioware to Mass Effect 3. If they don't do anything fast, they will lose a big chunck of their fan base, and a lot of profit. Which I hope they do. Bioware is not what it used to be. It's cycle has come to an end. It needs to die, so that others can be born.

Even if we can't chance anything now, we can send a message to them.