Major Mass Effect 3 Ending Content Cut out Kotor 2 style (spoilers)

[snekadid]

Ok, ok. You know what I don't get? How the fuck did Bioware NOT have as much time as they wanted to make this game! Were they really rushed this much and if they were why did they wait until the last minute to do the ending? It's mother fucking Bioware, I'm sure EA would've given them an extra couple of months. Right? Right!

Well you also have to remember the massive November leak caused such an outcry over how the game would have ended that Bioware ended up scrapping that idea and were scrambling to come up with a new ending to their game. So they did run out of time, and since EA had poured so much money into marketing, they were not going to let the game be delayed for another month or 2.

That i don't understand, if people wanted to ruin the ending for themselves, let them. They were still gonna buy the game because ME has always had great gameplay in addition to a great story. Besides, just reading the story isn't the same as playing through it. Denying the fans a functioning ending and falsely advertising the game seems like stepping around a pot hole only to fall off the bridge.

 

[Blachman201_v1legacy]

I'm so angry that there was a good ending somewhere in Mass Effect 3, but Casey Hudson wanted a open ended ending that people would talk about for years and that turned into a piece of crap full of flaws and plot holes.

I am worried about the fact that despite all that, he is working on the extended cut.

After the crap he and Mac Walters pulled, the only thing he should be allowed to direct is people to their seats in the cinema.

 

[verdant monkai]

But this is awesome why cut this?
Oh wait I know EA wanted to advertise it WAY TOO MUCH
and they wasted money on multiplayer (which I liked but would sacrifice for a good ending any day) and other shit, instead of the actual RPG bit, you know that bit that the Game is supposed to be about.

 

[pandorum]

Cool shit was cut because of pressure to meet deadlines from EA.

Is anyone surprised by this? Did anyone honestly believe this wouldn't happen before the game came out?

Making a deal with EA is like making a deal the devil. They'll give you short-term rewards, but fuck you in the end.

EA held it back from Christmas release, Bioware wanted more time why not just ask for more if then ending was sub-par?

 

[Dryk]

That i don't understand, if people wanted to ruin the ending for themselves, let them. They were still gonna buy the game because ME has always had great gameplay in addition to a great story. Besides, just reading the story isn't the same as playing through it. Denying the fans a functioning ending and falsely advertising the game seems like stepping around a pot hole only to fall off the bridge.

The old ending was just as decisive and interesting as well, and made a lot more sense.

 

[Kahunaburger]

The only thing worse than something shit is something shit that could have been good.

If Bioware had a coat of arms, this would be on it in Latin.

 

[Littaly]

Are you kidding me?

I mean, it kind of makes sense. Even when you disconnect all the rage and disappointment and look at the ending with a clear and rational mind, it's kind of obvious that it's underdeveloped when compared to the rest of the game.

This makes the whole shabang a lot more interesting, I mean, why? Were there time constraints? Is there more to this than just a regular failure to deliver?

I mean, probably not, but I like a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy, so for now I'll just let my imagination run rampart ^^

 

[Animyr]

News Flash--the HMS Mass Effect Franchise has crashed into the notoriously huge iceberg "Cut Corners" alongside her sister ship, the HMS Loyal Fanbase. Both sank with all hands except for Captains Mac Walters and Casey Hudson, who escaped on lifeboats named Artistic Integrity and Lots of Money, respectively.

"At least the lifeboats are safe," Hudson is reported to have said.

 

[Zhukov]

The only thing worse than something shit is something shit that could have been good.

If Bioware had a coat of arms, this would be on it in Latin.

I would have thought that you would regard any product of Bioware's to be bereft of redeeming qualities by default.

 

[Riff Moonraker]

I was unaware of this, blissfully unaware. After seeing this, I swear it feels like someone took a mallet to my nuts. It evokes that painful of a reaction from me.

 

[AbstractStream]

I thought I had moved on already, but then I heard Jack's cut dialogue.
Damn you for cutting this...

I would have waited D:
Now it just feels like I've been stabbed...again!

 

[worldruler8]

at first I thought this was merely something I already heard, then I heard the Geth Prime dialogue. "The Reapers made contact with our collective. we maintained sentience and rejected them". Well, shit. I think that's a bit something to cut out, Bioware.

 

[iRevanchist]

Did... did bioware just pull a lucasarts? cutting out story in time for the release date? really? really?

great, now instead of TSL RP taking 8 years we get ME3 RP. Fan-fracking-tastic.

 

[Palmerama]

How is this surprising? Considering the ending thats in the game was NEVER the actual ending! It surprises me that people forget that the original ending was leaked before the christmas so EA made Bioware change the ending! Casey Hudson locked himself in a roon with no input from the wrting staff and came up with the crap that we have in the game!
I hate it when people talk about artistic integrity when there's none to begin with! Really wish I had read the original leak! Most likeyl I would have been more staisfied with that one!

 

[Kahunaburger]

The only thing worse than something shit is something shit that could have been good.

If Bioware had a coat of arms, this would be on it in Latin.

I would have thought that you would regard any product of Bioware's to be bereft of redeeming qualities by default.

Quite the opposite, really. "Let's make a character-driven non-standard RPG narrative with an unreliable narrator" is awesome on paper. Then, Dragon Age 2. "Let's make an interesting, philosophical ending that will end our series in an original, memorable way" is similarly awesome on paper. Then, Mass Effect 3 ending. And so on.

And some of their writers (mostly on the Mass Effect side of things) actually seem pretty good, even if they are often wasted on binary morality, infodumps, and sappy romances.

Their games are never the sort of thing that I look at and think "well, that was doomed from the start." They always have good elements that get crushed under a mountain of bad decisions. See also: Peter Molyneux.

 

[soren7550]

Having the outcome depend on our choices in the last mission (ME2 style) and how we utilize our war assets would have made for a really good ending.

A lot better than the 3 ending choices we got.

True. I'm pretty sure that's what a lot of people were expecting, and possibly hoping for.


But instead, we got...

... yeah. *goes back into corner and sobs uncontrollably*

 

[Hero in a half shell]

I had heard some writer was not content with the ending, and that some content was cut, but hot damn, I didnt know Casey Hudson locked all the writers out and soloed the ending. That's just...insane. Did he have a case of insanity or a power trip? Why would he take the writers from one of the most celebrated games series ever and descide that suddenly he could make the CONCLUSION to the whole thing better himself?

But this also makes a bit of sense, and to me finally explains why the ending ended up the way it did. Up until now I couldnt for my life have figured out -why- they thought the mess of an ending would be a good idea, and how there could be such a ridicilous jump in quality from the rest of the game and those very last 5 minutes.

I still have faith in Bioware's staff now, especielly its writers, just not its leadership. Frankly, Casey should loose his job over this.

Earlier on in the year when the film was well into development a large portion of the planned ending was leaked, showing visuals of several things, including a Prothean team-mate. Bioware then decided to have a pretty vast re-write at very short notice, partially due to this, but also because the deadline would not allow them to finish the game completely as they had envisioned anyway (i.e. resulting in all this cut stuff.)

The Prothean's central role was watered down so that he was no longer plot-neccessary, to become DLC that they would add later, and the ending was pretty much scrapped.
I'm guessing the whole Casey soloing the ending was because he didn't want another leak to happen, so he decided to keep it as secret as possible, which unfortunately meant no one was able to criticise his work and tell him how dumb it was. I'm not sure if that's what really happened, there's a lot of guesswork and conjecture, but at least those series of events would give him some form of excuse and rationale, rather than just being a huge idiot.

 

[Markgraf]

Easiest way to explain this situation is EA's stock price. Just look at especially that 3 month trend. They're trying to salvage a sinking ship by releasing incomplete games.

 

[boag]

Entitled Whiny Homophobic brats, remember these is what bioware calls anyone that wanted them to change their artistic vision.