Male contraceptive pill

[12capital]

Those organs are classified as non-essential, sperm on the other hand is essential in the male reproductive system in order to have kids. Don't get me wrong this looks promising, I just wanted to point out flaw in your argument civily.

OT: Sounds promising, as others have stated I'm weary of side effects.

The whole point of the medication is that it stops male fertility temporarily. It's absurd to consider it a side effect, it's the principle effect. I think his point was that, outside of male reproduction, sperm have no use. Men who are infertile face no problems outside of reproduction due to their defective or absent sperm.

The first persons argument was that: if the appendix were removed, something else in the system must suffer for it.

Yes, I'm aware that the main purpose of the drug is to reduce fertility temporarily. When I spoke of side effects I was actually alluding to the consequences of shutting down part of the body. I took the first post to mean that since you could get rid of those organs why can't you get rid of sperm, as proved by him saying that you can remove those organs and have nothing serious happen to you. My argument against that was that what you mentioned that if you remove/shut down part of an organ that there will be consequences.

 

[VincentX3]

Sounds cool

the pill could be available in three years

FFFUUUUUUUUUUU-

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

What is your opinion on this ?

If it works without harmful side-effects, my opinion on this is: YAY!

Finally you don't just have to take the womans word for it that she's "on the pill", and you might actually be able to exert a little more control as a man over accidental pregnancy occuring other than having to fiddle around with mood-killing condoms.

 

[Shifty Tortoise]

Does it prevent STDs? No? Then condoms will suffice.

Exactly. Don't be a fool, wrap your tool.

I don't think it's for when your going out having random sex with strangers... But for those of us who enjoy deeper and more trusting relationships, that don't want any unforeseen sprogs.

The condom is multipurpose though, you can use it for your girlfriend or for quick hook ups.

And if you don't like how a condom feels?

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

We already have issues with the female pill. A male pill is just gonna cause more trouble.

Just use a condom !

The "almighty condom" isn't as almighty as popular opinion tend to believe. Even if we disregard the mood-killing aspects of it, it is far from reliable. Speaking as someone who have broken several condoms of various brands through perfectly normal usage, I should know...

 

[xDarc]

(Just as an aside, I bet the feminists will find some way of objecting to this. I'm not sure how yet but I'm sure they can manage it)

Why the hell would we object? Something that prevents unwanted pregnancy is a good thing.

Because it shifts power away from women. Around half of all births in the US each year were unplanned pregnancies.

Pregnancy happens, and until now men have had nothing but condoms to control when this happens. Condoms fail, because of many reasons which aren't the point, but it happens. There's also a problem of reduced sensation leaving many dissatisfied.

Point is, that's their option... either that or get clipped, which isn't much of an option at all.

Then this comes along and the balance of power shifts. How many women that try to get men to stay in relationships by getting pregnant will lose their power because of this?

America has been suffering from baby daddy/mama drama for far too long and male contraceptive has the potential to tremendously upset this status quo. It will not be taken lightly.

I googled to see if there was a poll done as to how many women would seriously date a man they knew for a fact was sterile... didn't find anything... but I bet you around half, guess where i'm getting the idea for that estimate, will have serious issues with it.

Sorry if you don't see what I see, but I'm 28 years old from the metro Detroit area. I've watched an entire generation around here grow up and make babies of their own. I've known the circumstances behind how a number of children around here came into this world, and if you lived here, you'd be surprised any figures you find aren't worse.

At 28, people are surprised when I tell them I have no children... and they are more surprised the closer you are towards the hood. But this isn't just Detroit, this is a large percentage of the US that lives around or below poverty.

I don't think the lower middle class are fairing too much better either.

But anyhow, if male contraceptive that doesn't have huge drawbacks and is very easy and effective catches on, it will change this nation in a few generations, for the better, I honestly feel.

 

[itsnotyouitsme]

Actually, if they have isolated the protein that sperm have and have done this correctly yet have made sure that the pill is not permanent or damaging then by all means it is a work of geniuses.
Too bad People are dumbasses. i swear if this comes out to the public there will be a guy talking about taking his after-morning pill. Also people are generally idiot when it comes to medicine and a guy will take a massive amount of the drug and kill himself by stripping protein out of his body, effectively causing multiple system failure. Since proteins are the building block of pretty much everything in your body.

 

[TheRundownRabbit]

I would happily take 5 of these.

I'll see your 5 and take 200!

 

[xDarc]

Actually, if they have isolated the protein that sperm have and have done this correctly yet have made sure that the pill is not permanent or damaging then by all means it is a work of geniuses.

I don't know if the article went into this, but they probably just isolated the chemical interactions/glands in the body that produce sperm in the first place, and change that structure so it simply produces sperm without the protective protein in the first place.

With a quote of 100% effectiveness and no side effects, this is the only interaction that makes sense. It can't target every sperm, and it can't have anything to do with altering hormone levels that DO produce side effects.

It has to chemically alter the function of the testes themselves... and it's also supposed to last for three months by one pill.. so it must interact with a very specific part of the testes or production process.

*shrugs*

P.S.

I looked it up. The exact trade secret isn't published because the drug isn't patented yet. But basically whatever it is, it alters them on a genetic level, their mRNA blueprint during production, this causes them to not produce this protein later on no matter what, and die in the womb. Oh, and I believe it was referred to as simply a molecule, because it's operation is somehow biomechanical and not chemical... and therefore not a drug... ?

Basically- even scientists are like, omgwtfbbq?

 

[Ziadaine_v1legacy]

Another thing which only just barely got mentioned: Pills, Rods, Coat Hangers (Urge to say that) wont stop STD's/AIDS. Why do you think the Condom is such a widely used protection? (when they fucking remember to USE protection) not just for preventing pregnancy but mostly preventing STD's/AIDS. Unless the male pill can do that too, it's going to be another rarely used thing just like the female pill or even as worse as the female condom, which apparently is like having sex in a raincoat in the shower. Personally, I wouldn't know.

 

[VanityGirl]

That could be a good thing. The female pill is 99% effective, but heck, if a male also took the pill it would be even better.
It would be useful to my boyfriend and me.

MAKE THIS BUYABLE NOW!

 

[Jumplion]

Does it prevent STDs? No? Then condoms will suffice.

Exactly. Don't be a fool, wrap your tool.

Nobody said you can't take the pill and use a condom at the same time. Better safe than sorry, just because this pill doesn't prevent STDs doesn't mean it doesn't have it's place.

As for the pill itself, it's an interesting development. I would be concerned that long-term use of it would cause sterility, but the idea is a good one and it definitely has it's place. I wouldn't use it until it's been excessively tested, but if it works then maybe.

 

[Gladi]

Another thing which only just barely got mentioned: Pills, Rods, Coat Hangers (Urge to say that) wont stop STD's/AIDS. Why do you think the Condom is such a widely used protection? (when they fucking remember to USE protection) not just for preventing pregnancy but mostly preventing STD's/AIDS. Unless the male pill can do that too, it's going to be another rarely used thing just like the female pill or even as worse as the female condom, which apparently is like having sex in a raincoat in the shower. Personally, I wouldn't know.

True, but to be honest if you have sexual intercorse with a long term partner STD shouldn't be a problem.You wouldn't believe how many times my partner said that I'm ruining the mood because we have to wait until I put on a condom.For example:

She's turned on like never before and she wants to rape the shit out of me and all of the sudden i remember that that i don't want a bastard child and ruin 18 years of my life with child support , so I need to roll her off me go get the condoms from my stash, come back , put it on, get her on me again and do the proper thing...

 

[Fellwarden]

I recently saw a kind of documentary of a Norwegian company trying to make such a pill. They have made many versions which deactivates the protein in question, but also has severe side-effects. I'm sceptical that such a pill has already been perfected elsewhere. I won't speculate in the morality and such of this.

 

[Gildan Bladeborn]

3) Guys, do you remember to brush your teeth EVERY night?

Honestly I think remembering to brush my teeth on a weekly basis is pretty iffy, let along daily.

 

[Goth Skunk]

Research and development for a male contraceptive pill has been going on since the 70's, roughly on par with the female contraceptive. And truthfully, such a contraceptive HAS existed since that long as well, but unlike the female contraceptive, sterility was an unacceptably common side effect. The research thus far in the last 40 years has been towards perfecting the drug to safely cause temporary infertility, reversing the effect once the dosage has worn off.

Sounds like we're finally on that cusp.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_contraceptive

 

[historybuff]

What do you mean, what do we think?

I should think it's obviously a good thing. Give men some responsibility for protection against a baby.

 

[Cody211282]

Does it prevent STDs? No? Then condoms will suffice.

Exactly. Don't be a fool, wrap your tool.

I don't think it's for when your going out having random sex with strangers... But for those of us who enjoy deeper and more trusting relationships, that don't want any unforeseen sprogs.

The condom is multipurpose though, you can use it for your girlfriend or for quick hook ups.

And if you don't like how a condom feels?

Then no safe screwing for you.

 

[Jynxx-TheSiren]

Ok, so as a female I personally think it's a good thing. I mean if I have to go out every three months and get a bloody painful shot to prevent pregnancy I don't see why a guy can't take a pill every three months if it's all it's cracked up to be. Hell why has it been the female obligation to supply the back-up plan while guys just have to throw on a condom. Condoms do break. My friend had one completely pop on her more than once. I am not sexually promiscuous or anything, but I like to make sure I'm covered should anything start and I'd hope that if this pill was available guys would take part in managing responsibility and preventing babies. I'm not saying that getting this pill you should ignore condoms, but if you are in a long term relationship with someone you trust completely then waiting for the condom could be forgone in a moment of passion and you know rape-y ness, and you would still have back up. Its a winning situation, but I get the feeling that guys don't want doctors playing around with their sperm, it's some sort of Psychological guy thing that's weird.

 

[Labyrinth]

Because it shifts power away from women.

What? There's nothing here which prevents a woman from also using contraceptives and, in my opinion, if either partner doesn't want children it's unfair, and very un-feminist, to them to force a pregnancy. Abortion and contraceptives have lent themselves to female emancipation due to the fact that they cut the absolute ties of women to pregnancy. Tying anyone else to it unwillingly is cruel. Feminism isn't about women lording power over men it's about changing gender definitions and gender rules for all parties to give them equal standing.