Male contraceptive pill

[UBERfionn]

I can't believe they tested on aminals.

What else are they going to test it on?

I can't believe they tested on animals.

So? They can't test it on much else and have semi-dependable results, they also can't jump right right into human testing in case something goes wrong. So animal testing is the only option. It's a necessary evil.

I spelled animals as "aminals" to imply joking/sarcasm, you robots.

Sorry read the word wrong, or did i read it right, crap now you've got me all confused....

 

[elvor0]

There has to be some sort of disadvantage to it. You don't just 'deactivate' part of your body without any side-effects.

Really? The appendix can be removed as well as the Gallbladder. They do squat.

Yes, THEY do squat. My sperm does do stuff, I'd rather not take the risk of shooting blanks thank you.

 

[Ham_authority95]

It will be really interesting for the human body to mutate to this pill , and future generation to be born sterile.

*Runs off to write horror/apocalypse novel based on the effects of birth control*

 

[Matt_LRR]

This doesn't deal with the prevalence of casual sex, and in fact practically encourages it.
(Sex with no consequences? (except STDs) What are you going to say?)

Men don't need dead sperm, they need very alive sperm and to fully accept the consequences of their shitty mistakes.

I don't understand. If someone takes the pill, they are being responsible (at least for the 'having children' part of the equation)-why are you telling them to 'accept the consequences of their shitty mistakes' then?

Okay, I didn't really explain it that well.
A pill that takes away the consequences, so you can go sleeping around all you want, none of them will get pregnant.
So if over time the body builds up a resistance to the pill and the sperm don't die, all of a sudden all the casual sex comes back to haunt you.
Or if you forgot your tri-monthly pill.

We don't need anything else encouraging this sort of behaviour, we need people to wear condoms or deal with the consequences of not doing so.

(Just as an aside, I bet the feminists will find some way of objecting to this. I'm not sure how yet but I'm sure they can manage it)

I find it interesting that you are pitching this argument here, rather than in relation to the female pill.

It's also worthy of note that, insofar as pregnacy risk is concerned, the female birth control pill is actually significantly more effective than a condom.

That's not to say that I wouldn't still advocate using a condom (or better yet both) but in a monogomous situation where STD is not a concern, if you had to choose between pill only and condom only, pill is the safer choice.

Etimates of the effectiveness of the pill range from 92-99.7% effective. The same estimates for condoms are 85-98%

Wear one, but don't overestimate it's effectiveness as compared to other forms of BC.

-m

 

[DanDeFool]

Yaay!

Well, celebration might be a bit premature. My hope is that (if the FDA ever approves this) the government will make it freely available to all the males in the US, and then not only will this pill cripple sperm, but it will also cripple the Pro Choice v. Pro Life debate because we won't have anymore unwanted pregnancies.

Except that will never happen because my country's balls are firmly in the hands of religious fundamentalists and their ilk who all believe that contraception is "against God's will."

Oh well. A man can dream, I suppose.

 

[capin Rob]

I forsee a bunch of fucked up babies in the near future.

 

[Booze Zombie]

"Buy our new impotence pills! Ejaculate like it's made of water and white dye number 5!"

 

[Mariakitten]

Does it prevent STDs? No? Then condoms will suffice.

Exactly. Don't be a fool, wrap your tool.

Dont be daft, cap your shaft!

Yeah I think this would be kind of weird, what if it sterilized everyone?

 

[Tharwen]

There has to be some sort of disadvantage to it. You don't just 'deactivate' part of your body without any side-effects.

Really? The appendix can be removed as well as the Gallbladder. They do squat.

But they don't do anything in the first place. Sperm is actually quite useful.

[sub]Now you'll just find an example of something which can be removed but is useful otherwise, won't you. Wait, isn't the Gall Bladder useful in some way anyway?[/sub]

 

[Lorien077]

This doesn't deal with the prevalence of casual sex, and in fact practically encourages it.
(Sex with no consequences? (except STDs) What are you going to say?)

Men don't need dead sperm, they need very alive sperm and to fully accept the consequences of their shitty mistakes.

So when their very alive sperm impregnates a woman after they 'fire and forget' that's a consequence for them? Don't get me wrong, both parties should get a share of the blame, but there's little stopping the man from just running off.

If this works without permanent side-effects I'd say its a step in the right direction. Obviously not a perfect one, but given the side-effects female users of the pill can have alternatives would be nice.

 

[Dags90]

But they don't do anything in the first place. Sperm is actually quite useful.

[sub]Now you'll just find an example of something which can be removed but is useful otherwise, won't you. Wait, isn't the Gall Bladder useful in some way anyway?[/sub]

The gall bladder creates bile salts, which aid in digestion of fats. There are side effects to its removal, but they're mild and avoided by lifestyle choices.

People seem to have the most doubts about it effectiveness or long term health, the human trials won't be completed for some time. Right now it's just interesting to think about how it would work in society. As it stands, it won't be able to dodge the issue that "you can have sex without kids!" in advertising like female contraceptives do. It would be interesting to see how it's advertised, and the reaction that would cause.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

It will be really interesting for the human body to mutate to this pill , and future generation to be born sterile.

*Runs off to write horror/apocalypse novel based on the effects of birth control*

Been done: Children of Men...as well as a few others I believe.

 

[Ham_authority95]

It will be really interesting for the human body to mutate to this pill , and future generation to be born sterile.

*Runs off to write horror/apocalypse novel based on the effects of birth control*

Been done: Children of Men...as well as a few others I believe.

Damn it, I forgot about that one.

 

[mad825]

another sex revolution is the last thing that's needed in this day and age, if this is introduced to modern society we might see a rise in STIs.

 

[MelasZepheos_v1legacy]

Go for it. I think it should be up to both parties involved to practice safely, and anything that can be added safely to increase that safety (does that even make sense?) should ne encouraged.

Which boils down to, if it does work, and doesn't make you go sterile (I would not like to be in those clinical trials!) then I think it's a brilliant addition to the numerous other methods.

 

[FieryTrainwreck]

Despite the aura of optimism surrounding this pill, men won't have any more sex. Women are still the gatekeepers, and this pill isn't going to change their minds one way or the other.

Also, shotgun on "international, multi-government conspiracy to introduce widespread infertility as population control in third world countries".

 

[elfshiree]

Good? I can still see idiotic stories popping up concerning how someone told the girl they're involved with he's took a pill and a condom isn't necessary, but hasn't. Hilarity ensuing.

I can defiantly see that. Women are pretty good about taking birth control, because oh yah if we mess up we are the ones carrying an unwanted child for 9 miserable months, if a guy messes up he can pretty much disappear and take no responsibility. I would not trust a guy who said, "Oh yah I'm on the pill" it sounds as reassuring as, "Don't worry I'll pull out in time."

 

[lewism247]

On one hand this will lower accidental pregnancies.

On the other I doubt it has zero side effects and it'll probably be fairly expensive.

 

[Kragg]

I question it's reliability and lack of side-effects. If it is all it's cracked up to be then I probably would 'go on the pill'

yeah i am totally not touching this shit till after long term side effects are studied