Man kills newborn daughter because he couldn't afford to keep her

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JMeganSnow

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Jonabob87 said:
That's one problem with abortion, however my biggest problem is taking away someones chance at life because it doesn't fit in with yours.

Selfish.
You say that like it's a bad thing. What would it mean to take that to its logical conclusion? If a woman doesn't get pregnant every time she brings down an egg, she's selfishly denying "someone" a chance at life?

I rather wish my mom had had the guts to abort me.
 

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I WAS having a nice day, til I read this and I relised that the rise of inbreeding the USA it reached critical, if these guys don't stop wth the inbreeding other countries will have to take action, and 'remove' the corrupted percentage of the USA :(
On the other hand this was just and isolated case and I won't ever happen again because he's going to be put on death row and... die to set an example right?......RIGHT!
My country doesn't have death sentences, use want you have people!
 

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Markgraf said:
And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.
1: There are a ton of people who frown upon abortion, which planet do you live on?

2: This baby was born already. She was apparently healthy, and likely fully developed as far as babies go. This was nowhere near the same thing as an abortion.

Abortions are usually done while the fetus is still developing crucial parts of the baby. In other words, the thing isn't sentient yet, so while you're still facing an incredibly difficult decision, you're at least not dropping a fucking cinderblock on a newborn's head in a parking lot.

No, what this man did is miles from any standard abortion.
 

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Thyunda said:
JMeganSnow said:
Thyunda said:
You do know that few kids actually get adopted, and a lot of them end up being driven mad by the rest of the dysfunctional kids inhabiting the care centre?
Actually, LOTS of children get adopted. I have numerous friends with adopted children. It's annoying as heck to adopt within the U.S. though--the local group that meets has people who adopt from all across the world. The average wait time if you want to adopt within the U.S. is four times as long as adopting from, say, Ethiopia.
It's relative. Lots of children getting adopted doesn't mean that a lot OF the children get adopted. If that makes sense.
That's not what you said. You said "few" not "a small percentage". The greatest obstacle to adoption in the U.S. is legal establishment that the biological parents have forfeited their rights. This can be so hard to establish due to an overwhelming (and stupid) policy whereby the adoptive parents have pretty much no rights no matter what they've done. About 60% of kids in foster care return to their bio parents. Of the 40% who remain, almost all of them either go to permanently live with other relatives or are adopted.

http://www.adoptioninstitute.org/FactOverview/foster.html

Almost all kids who are available to be adopted do, in fact, get adopted. If it were easier to slough off the bio parents, they wouldn't have to wait years in foster care.
 

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Gerdneek said:
I WAS having a nice day, til I read this and I relised that the rise of inbreeding the USA it reached critical, if these guys don't stop wth the inbreeding other countries will have to take action, and 'remove' the corrupted percentage of the USA :(
You ijiit. Firstly, "inbreeding" means that you've had children with a close relative. It has nothing to do with having lots of kids you can't support. And aside from some populations it is actually not that common in the U.S.--it is actually much MORE common for this type of thing to happen in numerous OTHER countries, it just doesn't make headlines.
 

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JMeganSnow said:
Thyunda said:
JMeganSnow said:
Thyunda said:
You do know that few kids actually get adopted, and a lot of them end up being driven mad by the rest of the dysfunctional kids inhabiting the care centre?
Actually, LOTS of children get adopted. I have numerous friends with adopted children. It's annoying as heck to adopt within the U.S. though--the local group that meets has people who adopt from all across the world. The average wait time if you want to adopt within the U.S. is four times as long as adopting from, say, Ethiopia.
It's relative. Lots of children getting adopted doesn't mean that a lot OF the children get adopted. If that makes sense.
That's not what you said. You said "few" not "a small percentage". The greatest obstacle to adoption in the U.S. is legal establishment that the biological parents have forfeited their rights. This can be so hard to establish due to an overwhelming (and stupid) policy whereby the adoptive parents have pretty much no rights no matter what they've done. About 60% of kids in foster care return to their bio parents. Of the 40% who remain, almost all of them either go to permanently live with other relatives or are adopted.

http://www.adoptioninstitute.org/FactOverview/foster.html

Almost all kids who are available to be adopted do, in fact, get adopted. If it were easier to slough off the bio parents, they wouldn't have to wait years in foster care.
I meant few from a kiddy point of view! Damn you, you pedant!
 

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JMeganSnow said:
Gerdneek said:
I WAS having a nice day, til I read this and I relised that the rise of inbreeding the USA it reached critical, if these guys don't stop wth the inbreeding other countries will have to take action, and 'remove' the corrupted percentage of the USA :(
You ijiit. Firstly, "inbreeding" means that you've had children with a close relative. It has nothing to do with having lots of kids you can't support. And aside from some populations it is actually not that common in the U.S.--it is actually much MORE common for this type of thing to happen in numerous OTHER countries, it just doesn't make headlines.
Im not stupid I know what inbreeding is, I was inpling that the man who commited the act was stupid due to inbreeding cause that was the only thing he thought to do, was to kill the child.
 

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SUPA FRANKY said:
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Why in the hell did that woman get pregnant in the first place!?
Not to make light of the situation, but sometimes condoms break or aren't put on properly. Sometimes women forget to take the pill. Whole lot of variables.

But what he did was inhumane.
Either that or they were "good" Catholics. But yes, sick nonetheless. Didn't read the article, but I'm curious where the mother fits in with this.
 

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this is why retards shouldn't have kids.
it's better it's dead, it doesn't have to grow up to these parents who'd abuse her and brainwash her to be as stupid as them.rather she not exist.
 

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What the hell? Why wouldn't he give her away, to a family that could care for her?
 

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My opinion (as a father): This filthy vermin needs to be coated in smoky BBQ sauce and dropped into a terrarium filled with bullet ants, starved rabid dingos, and at least 3 different Jigsaw killer traps.
I actually like this idea. Maybe set on fire at some point as well.
Oooo, that's good. We could all stand around the rim of the enclosure and shoot at him with Roman candles. Aim for the face!
 

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unbelievable story, I can't believe someone could just kill their kid right after it's born so savagely. I want these people out of existence completely.
 

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What's the discussion value? They are both terrible people and they both deserve to be locked up for the rest of their lives, hell the guy should be hung or face a firing squad or something.

And this could have been so easily avoided, why the fuck didn't they put the child up for adoption?
 

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At times like this I just wanna kill people ... like, really really stupid people like this sick fuck here ... I hope he dies, I really do.
 

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Siberian Relic said:
OmniscientOstrich said:
Nick Stackware said:
OmniscientOstrich said:
Markgraf said:
And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.
No, just no.
Why the no? At least explain your response if you say something.
A fetus has no cognitive functions and can not feel pain until after at least the 26th week, it's not the same thing as battering an infant to death with a brick.
You have no idea what that fetus might become one day. Want a cure for cancer? Well, the one who would've discovered it was aborted in the '80s, so too bad. How about the next Great American President? Whoops, that one bit the dust before it could "germinate", so no luck there.
Or it could be the next Hitler. Or Stalin. It's about as likely as it being the next great president or cure for cancer. You also have to look at the situation in which this child would have been raised. Where this child was being raised, with the truly stellar parenting it would have had, it would almost definitely have been inable to get a good education. Huh. Kind of just de-railed your argument right there.
 

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Siberian Relic said:
OmniscientOstrich said:
Nick Stackware said:
OmniscientOstrich said:
Markgraf said:
And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.
No, just no.
Why the no? At least explain your response if you say something.
A fetus has no cognitive functions and can not feel pain until after at least the 26th week, it's not the same thing as battering an infant to death with a brick.
You have no idea what that fetus might become one day. Want a cure for cancer? Well, the one who would've discovered it was aborted in the '80s, so too bad. How about the next Great American President? Whoops, that one bit the dust before it could "germinate", so no luck there.
Or it could be the next Hitler. Or Stalin. It's about as likely as it being the next great president or cure for cancer. You also have to look at the situation in which this child would have been raised. Where this child was being raised, with the truly stellar parenting it would have had, it would almost definitely have been inable to get a good education. Huh. Kind of just de-railed your argument right there.