Man kills newborn daughter because he couldn't afford to keep her

[AlexNora]

And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.

Abortion happens before the egg is fertilized enough to even be classified as.. I think living, actually. As it hasn't gone through every stage required (I think there are seven... Respiration's one of them). This is a fully conscious baby. It can make noise, have faint recognition and memory. These are two completely different things.

you actually believe that? a child is a child from conception!

abortion is murder plain and simple.

Whether you support abortion or not, you can't deny there's a difference between a medical procedure to remove an undeveloped, non-sentient cluster of cells, and dropping a cinderblock on the head of a conscious, fully-formed and anatomically independent baby.

I agree with you to a point. I think the man that murdered a child with a brick is detestable and should be put to death. However women who go through with abortion often do not know the truth about what there doing and its the doctors who should be ashamed for lying and be put to death for murder. (my only exception is with rape victims because trauma may cause the mother to kill the baby herself is some cases) even then i think you should give the baby a chance and kill the rapist.

 

[SD-Fiend]

...So what?

People in China drown their kids because of the population control laws there. Kids-especially girls- often get chucked into the nearest river they can find, because they lose a lot of shit in society if they have more than one kid.

I feel nothing. Less than nothing.

I can understand that you don't care about it but the way you said it sounds like you could have walked past the incident and not give it a second look.

 

[A Gent of Villainous Intent]

Okay this is beyond comprehension.

This is not the thread for jokes or light-heartedness. And honestly, I feel many people in this thread should not have had the opportunity to speak about it. Hell even the death of infant in a cruel and horrible manner is not enough for people insert political points and troll baits in here.

If any of you were to say those comments to a person's face, I do hope you can take a punch.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.

Though I'm not comfortable with the idea of abortion, or the reasons some(not all) women give for having them, there is, I think, a rather large difference between terminating a pregnancy(methods varying according to how far in the mother is) and dropping a cinder block on a newborn's head. I think this for several reasons, but the main one is simply because the man has picked up his own flesh and blood, seen it, heard it's first cries, put it down, looked at it and then crushed it's head. Twice. There is none of the distance abortion gives, nothing is hidden, and yet he probably didn't even blink. That takes a level of vileness that very few would be capable of.

I totally agre with this post , this is not a man you would want walking around in society. You would have to be a dangerous sociopath to do such a thing to your own child.

 

[Philip Petrunak]

Meh, it's a baby. People are only bothered by infanticide or abortion because they are mindless tools ruled over by instinct and emotion. They are so blinded that they cannot see the true tragedy here.

Not that a many kills his child, but that he is in such a dire situation economically caused by his country being run by the greedy for the last 4 decades that he can't afford to even keep his own child.

 

[ChildofGallifrey]

My opinion (as a father): This filthy vermin needs to be coated in smoky BBQ sauce and dropped into a terrarium filled with bullet ants, starved rabid dingos, and at least 3 different Jigsaw killer traps.

 

[Tdc2182]

Because, you know... Adoption was totally not an option.

 

[Mr. 47]

Jackass should get life. Get a second job, put her up for adoption, don't murder her.

 

[Dags90]

Doesn't planned parenthood give them away for free anyway?
If you arn't using protection you should have to live by your fucking mistakes. How does someone not learn after however many other children?

A quick Googling shows the nearest Planned Parenthood is nearly 15 miles away, and they might not have even known about its existence or thought about checking out Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood's existence doesn't make up for the fact that sexual health services in the U.S. are inadequate.

And the people saying that people who can't afford contraception should just abstain are just as ridiculous as "abstinence only" sex ed promoters.

 

[SD-Fiend]

Meh, it's a baby. People are only bothered by infanticide or abortion because they are mindless tools ruled over by instinct and emotion. They are so blinded that they cannot see the true tragedy here.

Not that a many kills his child, but that he is in such a dire situation economically caused by his country being run by the greedy for the last 4 decades that he can't afford to even keep his own child.

excuse me but did you read the article? he didn't even want the baby he could have put it up for adoption and there's also the fact that he could have aborted the poor child and he killed it for no valid reason.

 

[Pearwood]

Okay this is beyond comprehension.

This is not the thread for jokes or light-heartedness. And honestly, I feel many people in this thread should not have had the opportunity to speak about it. Hell even the death of infant in a cruel and horrible manner is not enough for people insert political points and troll baits in here.

If any of you were to say those comments to a person's face, I do hope you can take a punch.

I was just about to say pretty much this. Comments about her wife being a whore and how abortion is the same as caving a child's head in with a cinder block are just ridiculous. Hopefully we'll purge some idiots after they go too far here.

Not that a many kills his child, but that he is in such a dire situation economically caused by his country being run by the greedy for the last 4 decades that he can't afford to even keep his own child.

Adoption, or sell his Xbox, sell his tv, work a second job, cut down on bills. Hell releasing the child into a forest like Tarzan would be better.

 

[Akytalusia]

........
man, i don't even know how to react to that. with all the alternate options they could have used to deal with thier problem over the last 9 months, -this- is what they decided was thier best option? it doesn't compute. noone can be that dumb and have lived long enough to procreate... the variables just don't add up. unless... yes. they must be unusual specimens. there must be something wrong with them. they are dysfunctional. well, now that that's out of the way...
it's a damn shame our society enables and supports the development of people like this, isn't it? the logical thing to do would be to identify and eliminate these factory rejects early so they don't cause problems later, but i digress.

 

[Jegsimmons]

And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.

No, just no.

Why the no? At least explain your response if you say something.

A fetus has no cognitive functions and can not feel pain until after at least the 26th week, it's not the same thing as battering an infant to death with a brick.

You have no idea what that fetus might become one day. Want a cure for cancer? Well, the one who would've discovered it was aborted in the '80s, so too bad. How about the next Great American President? Whoops, that one bit the dust before it could "germinate", so no luck there.

You also have not idea what the fetus could become one day, saying all those idealistic positive cliches like becoming President and curing Cancer? Please. Unlike you, I consider this, but also that maybe the baby will become something bad, kill somebody, sell hard drugs, commit rape etc.

what? no innocence until proven guilty?
wait until the fucker actually DOES something before passing negative judgement.

You obviously didn't comprehend my post.
And you wait until the 'fucker' (nice word for a baby by the way, good one!) DOES something positive until passing positive judgement.

sorry, but im a believer in the pro-chance stance, every life has a chance to live as a productive member of society.
also, i like useing the word fucker. rolls off the tongue.fucker.

I can't respect somebody who apologizes for what they believe in, and expressing your opinion like it's a fact isn't helping anybody. It would be productive for you to learn the difference between the two. Also lol at how you call me an idiot,(ironic) reported! Have a good one!

that sorry was in a sarastic tone. also where did i call you an idiot? seriously do you even read what you type?

I could ask you the same question, but alas, you didn't call me an idiot, but you sure implied it thinking I wasn't going to report you for your behavior. What's your beef now?

thinking what behavior your going to report me for...cause honestly i haven't done anything wrong. unless you count saying 'fucker', because i like the way it sounds...er reads...
maby i should report you for abusing the reporting option...but im not because i got better things to do....like argue over the internet on another thread.

 

[Sudenak]

I don't get this.

There's pages of people arguing abortion rights when a man dropped a fucking cinderblock on an infant to murder it.

Let me break this down.

That, that right up there in the OT? That's what people do when they don't get abortions. They don't want their bastard spawn, but they probably believe "abortion is wrong". So they think this is acceptable.

Condoms, pills, day-after pills...these could have prevented it. If they failed, an abortion could have stopped it.

This moron had five children already, and couldn't keep her legs closed. But no, an abortion wouldn't be a smart idea. Better give birth to the baby in a fucking car and then give it to baby daddy to murder. That's an ethical thing. If not ethical, equally moral when compared to abortions.

Meanwhile, those fetuses? Stem cell research. They can be reprogrammed into whatever you want them to be. But no, that's unholy and wrong. We need every single fucking baby to be spat out on this planet, because hey, we're suffering from a serious shortage of humans right now!

There's 120,000 kids up for adoption right now. Should we seriously be bumping that number up because those twitching masses of cells have the potential to become a baby?

I mean, hell, going by this constant whining about how a fetus is a potential child, you should be absolutely damning men who masturbate for wasting all of those lives. Or women, who shed an egg every single time they have a period.

A baby is a baby when it is capable of feeling pain. When it is no longer capable of being programmed into forming into, say, a liver. When it is developed into a humanoid shape.

Hell, even if you still wildly cling to your morality, y'know what? It should only be the choice of the woman. All of these nagging, zombie-like hands stretching out to paw at the woman should be lopped off. It's her choice if she wants to abort. Because chances are, if she wants to abort, it's because she has absolutely no other option and doesn't want to spit out a child. Maybe she was raped. Maybe the condom and pills failed. Maybe the infant will kill her if she gives birth. A bunch of quazi-religious bullshit about that twitching mass of cells somehow having more rights than a full grown adult by forcing her to carry it and then throw it into the adoption system is doing nothing besides incensing everybody. It makes pro-lifers outraged at abortion, and pro-choicers outraged at forcing a woman to give birth.

OT: This man is sick, the woman needs to put her children up for adoption before she decides they can't raise the other five, and both of them need to be sterilized. No excuse for murdering a baby.

EDIT: Just noticed I quoted the wrong person >_>; Sorry, AlexNora.

 

[AngloDoom]

I can't even comprehend this. It's left me feeling rather disgusted. That poor child was unwanted from birth and was killed in such a disgusting and painful way because of the mistakes of the people who, by all rights, should be the ones looking after her.

...I need to give my niece a hug.

 

[Littlee300]

And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.

What the hell? Abortion is killing a cluster of cells. Killing a newborn is taking away conscience of something AKA murder.

 

[Littlee300]

Isn't healthcare in America really expensive?

Abortion is under the free healthcare, I think.

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aww it wont pop up. Anyways it said Time Lord

 

[Matthew Valkanov]

Meh, it's a baby. People are only bothered by infanticide or abortion because they are mindless tools ruled over by instinct and emotion. They are so blinded that they cannot see the true tragedy here.

Not that a many kills his child, but that he is in such a dire situation economically caused by his country being run by the greedy for the last 4 decades that he can't afford to even keep his own child.

Yes, we are led by instinct and emotion. Yes, we tend to notice child death more than that of others. Neither fact makes us "mindless tools". And yes, there is tragedy in the fact that a man doesn't have the means to keep his child.

This does not change the fact that this man chose to rid himself of his child, not by putting it up for adoption or leaving it at an orphanage or some such place, but by crushing it's skull. How poor he was does not excuse his choice, nor did his poverty push him to that choice. THAT, is the real tragedy.