ShakyFt Slasher said:Actually this is far worse than abortion...The66Monkey said:"Well at least she didn't have an abortion" i hear god say
There's a limit to the amount of time you can wait for an abortion, so there are obviously going to be some kind of sentience factors.Markgraf said:And what would you say, would be the conditions through which something could be classified as "living?" Because, legally speaking in the US, there is no definition as to what is, and what isn't alive; and said definitions do not factor into the legality of abortion as expressed by the Supreme Court.Count Igor said:Abortion happens before the egg is fertilized enough to even be classified as.. I think living, actually. As it hasn't gone through every stage required (I think there are seven... Respiration's one of them). This is a fully conscious baby. It can make noise, have faint recognition and memory. These are two completely different things.Markgraf said:And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.
WOW! Really? Murdering a baby once its actually a sentient life form is the same as terminating a feotus?Markgraf said:And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.
So you're saying you're a complete vegan?AlexNora said:The66Monkey said:"Well at least she didn't have an abortion" i hear god sayyou actually believe that? a child is a child from conception!Count Igor said:Abortion happens before the egg is fertilized enough to even be classified as.. I think living, actually. As it hasn't gone through every stage required (I think there are seven... Respiration's one of them). This is a fully conscious baby. It can make noise, have faint recognition and memory. These are two completely different things.Markgraf said:And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.
abortion is murder plain and simple.
Abortion generally happens before 3 months. Fertilisation happens very quickly.Count Igor said:Abortion happens before the egg is fertilized enough to even be classified as.. I think living, actually. As it hasn't gone through every stage required (I think there are seven... Respiration's one of them). This is a fully conscious baby. It can make noise, have faint recognition and memory. These are two completely different things.Markgraf said:And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.
Speaking from a low vantage here, so much of what I say is likely to be flawed as I don't look into it that much.TheGuiggleMonster said:Abortion generally happens before 3 months. Fertilisation happens very quickly.Count Igor said:Abortion happens before the egg is fertilized enough to even be classified as.. I think living, actually. As it hasn't gone through every stage required (I think there are seven... Respiration's one of them). This is a fully conscious baby. It can make noise, have faint recognition and memory. These are two completely different things.Markgraf said:And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.
do not equate human life to that of an animal (no i don't care what you say in reply your wrong animals are not equal to humans in any way)Count Igor said:So you're saying you're a complete vegan?AlexNora said:The66Monkey said:"Well at least she didn't have an abortion" i hear god sayyou actually believe that? a child is a child from conception!Count Igor said:Abortion happens before the egg is fertilized enough to even be classified as.. I think living, actually. As it hasn't gone through every stage required (I think there are seven... Respiration's one of them). This is a fully conscious baby. It can make noise, have faint recognition and memory. These are two completely different things.Markgraf said:And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.
abortion is murder plain and simple.
And you've never killed a fly? An ant? Even by accident?
Because damn, then you're a killer.
In fact, pretty much all of us are killers! Shall we lock every single person up?
Animals are far more conscious than a developing zygote. They respond far easier and actually have the brain capacity for memory and recognition and the like. They can survive on their own, without an umbilical cord or having to live inside someones stomach.
Why not just build a big old space wall around the Earth. That way we're aaall in prison.
Yes. I differ to your opinion. So I'm wrong. How didn't I see that?!AlexNora said:do not equate human life to that of an animal (no i don't care what you say in reply your wrong animals are not equal to humans in any way)Count Igor said:So you're saying you're a complete vegan?AlexNora said:The66Monkey said:"Well at least she didn't have an abortion" i hear god sayyou actually believe that? a child is a child from conception!Count Igor said:Abortion happens before the egg is fertilized enough to even be classified as.. I think living, actually. As it hasn't gone through every stage required (I think there are seven... Respiration's one of them). This is a fully conscious baby. It can make noise, have faint recognition and memory. These are two completely different things.Markgraf said:And yet nobody frowns upon abortion, even though this is exactly the same thing.
abortion is murder plain and simple.
And you've never killed a fly? An ant? Even by accident?
Because damn, then you're a killer.
In fact, pretty much all of us are killers! Shall we lock every single person up?
Animals are far more conscious than a developing zygote. They respond far easier and actually have the brain capacity for memory and recognition and the like. They can survive on their own, without an umbilical cord or having to live inside someones stomach.
Why not just build a big old space wall around the Earth. That way we're aaall in prison.
No, that was just the Pope and some radical christians in choir, was not the voice of God.The66Monkey said:"Well at least she didn't have an abortion" i hear god say