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Dastardly

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evilstonermonkey said:
Haha taxpayers money... That always gets me. Thanks for that.

No.
I also love this sort of reasoning, for it's short-sightedness. I hear it as a teacher, my brother hears it as a cop, my brother-in-law hears it as a Marine. Sooner or later, someone that doesn't like what you're doing comes out with that old favorite, "Well, my taxes pay your salary!"

To which I always love to reply, "I pay taxes, too. We're even."
 

ace_of_something

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It makes sense they need to target teenagers and people in their early twenties. Even with the large chunk of 'furrners' on this website it's still a good place to do it.

When I tried out for the Marines many moons ago they wouldn't take me because I'm dyslexic.
This was during 'peacetime' before 9/11 though.
 

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Meh, i hate the army (in general, not any one countries army in particular), but i guess they can advertise here just like most other organisations/corporations/people/whatever if the escapist is ok with it. Also, why do you see adds? Can't you just do something about it?
 

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Kortney said:
I pretty much just quoted to say I like how you phrased everything, and I have the utmost respect for your brothers.

Also, he's a troll. Common sense (or decency) doesn't really factor into his time on the internet.
 

BlindMessiah94

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Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
BlindMessiah94 said:
Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
Pub Club. Fuck yo' ads. :D
Rofl. yeah this.

Also : Firefox. It blocks ads.

[small]People still see ads on the internet?...seriously it's not that hard to block them forever[/small]
Adblockers, a suspendable offence.
Seriously? You can get suspended for blocking ads? I hope you are joking...
 

BlindMessiah94

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Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
BlindMessiah94 said:
Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
BlindMessiah94 said:
Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
Pub Club. Fuck yo' ads. :D
Rofl. yeah this.

Also : Firefox. It blocks ads.

[small]People still see ads on the internet?...seriously it's not that hard to block them forever[/small]
Adblockers, a suspendable offence.
Seriously? You can get suspended for blocking ads? I hope you are joking...
For admitting to it, yeah.
That's pretty ridiculous. I am a pub club member so I don't have to block ads anyway.
 

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I don't know what 'trying too hard' means really.

US Military will always want more recruits, from anywhere, if they can make it. Especially when you have an all-volunteer military, need to keep the incentive and the option out there. Also, I think the Marines are technically the smallest branch (apart from the Coast Guard) in the US military- I know they're the least funded compared to Army/Air Force/Navy. Even if they didn't technically need more personnel, there is always room for expansion, I guess. I imagine there are shortages in just about every profession/industry right now, though.
 

C95J

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Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
Pub Club. Fuck yo' ads. :D
hmmm... I wonder what it would be like without PubClub right now, I don't think I could handle the ads after not having them for so long...

But if I did have to experience the ads, then I wouldn't mind the Marines advertising on this site, it's not like I plan on joining any time soon.
 

Kevlar Eater

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I don't really care how the Marines advertise. I would not bother trying to join, as I have neither the muscle, endurance nor people skills they're looking for.
 

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Mr.K. said:
Come on now, we have all seen the future, the entire male population turns into brick shithouse space marine, so sign up early and get one chainsaw assault rifle for free (once they get invented).
Be part of the solution!
PPFF!!! I'll sign up when the God Emperor ascends to power, if I'm gonna be a Space Marine I'm gonna be the 'baddest mother fucking Space Marine' out there, not 'some dood with a spiffy gun' :p sides, Chain sword in one hand, Bolter in the other, 2 tons of power armor, hell yes

(unless you where talking about 40K, in which, do work on your weapon descriptions, cause that sounds like the Lancer from Gears of War, unless you where talking about Gears, then ignore this part)
 

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Canid117 said:
PaulH said:
eljawa said:
it's their right to buy adspace anywhere they want i suppose
Not really given it's taxpayer money. Given that it is taxpayer money, the public would beable to declare what areas should be advertisement free.
No... just no...
I was debating whether it was 'their right' to put up advertisement. If enough people complained then people in office would notice. If the government was handing out enlistment fliers and the entire town protested you'd find that your local reprewsentative would probably pass on words along the lines of 'I'd like to be voted back in thank you, please leave'.

One of the biggest button pushes in the two general elections before last in Australia was just how much politicians were spending when it came to electoral advertisement, or to promote new agendas given that most of it was taxpayer funded (but also quite suspect in and of themselves).

http://www.newcastle.edu.au/Resources/Schools/Newcastle%20Business%20School/APSA/PUBPOLICY/Young-Sally.pdf

Complain and see what happens... and I still fail to see the argument how it's the government's 'right' to advertise whatever agendas they wish to. it's taxpayer money, complain to your representative if you think it's being used frivolously.
 

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bl4ckh4wk64 said:
Romidude said:
Kortney said:
Romidude said:
Hm, seems they're running out of people to go shoot children for fun. Occasionally doing something right. (Before critisizing, check internets.)
Wow. Nice job completely disrespecting and devaluing an entire group of people.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NItJN3USgvk[/youtube]

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-kill-team-20110327?page=2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF9P5vIzYyE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfpBxToUPwQ

Also as a fun fact, 230,000 bullets are fired for every insurgent killed.
You ever fired a real gun? They're not pinpoint accurate, especially not on "rock-n-roll"
Stereotyping is stereotyping is stereotyping. I suppose you think all black people are drug addled gangbangers, all videogames are mindless toys, all gamers are worthless slobs, all women are inferior to men... the list goes on and on and on.
 

Zyst

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Gamers are actually a pretty good demographic to aim for.

  • Guys between the ages 18-13? Check
    People who generally think they'd do well in war. Check [don't say no, we all do it.]
    People who tend to romanticize violent situations as "cool". Check.

These are just a few points, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a better demographic.
 

KissofKetchup

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The people who are saying the military has tons of soldiers, marines, sailors, and airmen when in reality, the Marines and Army are strained for men. Many the men and women are having to do 2 or more tours of duty that put enormous strain on themselves.
 

bl4ckh4wk64

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Gladiateher said:
bl4ckh4wk64 said:
Romidude said:
Kortney said:
Romidude said:
Hm, seems they're running out of people to go shoot children for fun. Occasionally doing something right. (Before critisizing, check internets.)
Wow. Nice job completely disrespecting and devaluing an entire group of people.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NItJN3USgvk[/youtube]

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-kill-team-20110327?page=2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF9P5vIzYyE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfpBxToUPwQ

Also as a fun fact, 230,000 bullets are fired for every insurgent killed.
You ever fired a real gun? They're not pinpoint accurate, especially not on "rock-n-roll"
Stereotyping is stereotyping is stereotyping. I suppose you think all black people are drug addled gangbangers, all videogames are mindless toys, all gamers are worthless slobs, all women are inferior to men... the list goes on and on and on.
How does this have any bearing on what we were talking about? How am I in any way stereotyping? He's talking about how 230,000 rounds is a huge amount for a war. It's not. Guns are very hard to control when firing on fully automatic. Especially because our main service rifles, the M16A4 and the M4A1, are shooting around 10 rounds per second. If you do the calculations, that's about 383 hours of constant firing. Not too bad for a war we've been in for almost 10 years, especially when you consider the fact that they're also using M249's, which fire at about 12 rounds per second, and the fact that they're also training with live rounds (which they count as having been spent). All of that adds up.
 

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Kortney said:
Romidude said:
The bullets thing was there just as a representation of the "effectiveness" of the war in Afghanistan. And ever heard of a "bad apple"? This time, it's the whole orchard. Also, sorry that I can't be a millitary buff.
That is actually quite effective considering how warfare is fought in Afghanistan. Trust me, these men are excellent shots and if they have a clear line of sight - they'll hit you. They just seldom do have a clear line of sight. These guys are hit from kilometres away and all they have to go by is sound and vague human instinct.

Oh, and your evidence for the "whole orchard" being bad is....what? We are just supposed to take your word for it? You clearly don't even understand how firefights work, so why should any of us believe you?

For every biased, sensationalist article you can dig up about a US serviceman killing innocent people I can dig up a hundred more about US soldiers displaying incredibly acts of bravery and compassion. What the fuck do you think happens over there when innocents are in trouble? A fairy comes in and cleans everything up? No. Soldiers go in and clean up the mess. They do a job and they do it damn well most of the time. Yes there are mistakes. Yes, there are horrible losses of life. It's a war.

The fact you can dig up an article about a marine killing an innocent person clearly because of a mental illness or PTSD (which is what the members of the kill team had) means nothing mate. Absolutely nothing. All you are saying is "these few people are messed up and do incredibly evil things". Thanks Captain Obvious!

I can show you articles of Firefighters killing innocent people. Of school teachers molesting their students. Does this blatant and shameless sensationalism in any way reflect the real work that most firefighters and teachers do everyday? Would it then be fair of me to say that firefighters, by nature, kill innocent people? Or that all teachers do all day is sit around and molest kids?

No. All that would do is make me look like a bastard.

My two brothers are soldiers and because of this, I know many soldiers quite well. They are just the same as any other profession. There are some bad eggs, but most of them are incredibly nice people who go above and behind every single day. They do their bit. To imply that all they do is "shoot innocent children" because you read a horribly biased article in the Rolling Stone with a clear political agenda does not give you the right to disrespect everyone within their profession.

Think. Please.

I'm sorry if this comes across as a bit aggressive of insulting, but I don't like to see an entire group of people generalised and labelled because of 0.1% of them who do fucked up things.

edit: Could some of the veterans on the Escapist come to my aid here and explain to this person what common sense is?
You are right, it is unfair to blame the whole for the failings of a few.
However, I am afraid that does not apply here.

I do not blame the whole of the US armed forces when a few soldiers kill civilians by mistake.
Or even if a few soldiers kill civilians intentionally!

But when these incidents happen repeatidly and the US Army tries to cover them up, that is when I start thinking you have a problem. A big problem!