I fail to see how being better shots makes marines dumbasses.Hal10k said:In theory, the main thing that distinguishes the United States Marine Corp from the other military service branches is an increased speed and effectiveness at which they can be deployed. The name "marine" originally referred to the amphibious assaults undertaken by forces of their nature, but the modern day Marine Corp is a bit more diverse in this regard.Double A said:Hm, I thought it was because they were elite infantry (compared to the regular army anyway) and elites are better at their job. Or at least that's the vibe I seem to be getting from every video game, movie, and book involving them.Kopikatsu said:Marines are cannon fodder. Literally. That is their entire purpose. First in, last out. They take the bullets so that the people worth something don't have to.Heimir said:They why does America only get their retards to become soldiers? The standard for the american forces is pretty low in comparison to the standards of lets say european forces.Sexy Devil said:When we're condemning a country for their actions to the point of war, we can't just turn around and start acting like them.Heimir said:Couldn't care less. Deficate on them too for good measure. Have you seen what the locals do to the corpses of marines? Now thats barbaric. When you allow your children to pull them to pieces and batter them with sticks and stones all while chanting "Allah Akbhar".
That's not to say that all Marines are dumb muscle and some do actively choose to be there, but most are put into the US Marines because they have more brawn than brains.
That's probably why.
In practice, there are a few factors that lead to the "dumb but tough" Marine stereotype. The primary factor is that boot camp for Marines is actually harder for the Marines than the other branches: it lasts longer, has higher fitness requirements, and has more difficult marksmanship requirements.
The taliban did not make them go over there...Arnoxthe1 said:I'm just going to say this guys. When you see... almost your very brothers get shot and blown up by whatever the enemy is that day, that's not something you get over fast.
Read War Is... for this sort of thing. It's an anthology of different war stories and papers. I found it to be a really good.
I think I'll just agree with Daystar here. While I don't honestly care what they do to the bodies, letting themselves be recorded is just stupid.Daystar Clarion said:They're not exactly the sharpest tools in the shed if they let themselves be recorded.
But hey, don't need a brain to be cannon fodder.
Let's be honest here, I respect what some soldiers do, and I mean no disrespect to those who have pride in their work and uphold the integrity of their unit and their country while on operations.
But some people are just bullet sponges, a distraction so the real soldier can get shit done.
My only question is what was your MOS.Zio_IV said:I did 4 years in the Marines and you know what I found out in that span of time?
Marines are mostly scum. A good number of them are the exact opposite of the sort of people the GP (General Population) think would join up. Of course there are a few decent people here and there as well (as with any facet of society, really), but all things considered, the majority of people I met during my time in the corps were not the greatest.
I guess that's just my long-winded way of saying that I'm not surprised by this video. I've seen stuff just as bad in person, honestly.
You do know that the insurgents have killed 1000x more civilians than the coalition troops have right? Also that whether or not being there the people would still be dying and leaving millions of orphans? You do know that Muslims are pretty much at a civil war in the Middle East because of the Sunni Shiite sects? Hell there was a section in Afghanistan where the fighting just STOPPED because all of the Sunnis I think it was were killed.chadachada123 said:Anyway, I'm not going to watch the video, but I don't think that this video nearly compares to the damage we've done first-hand, with the blood of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians on our hands. Iraq now has over 5 million orphans, which is half of the children there. It's disgusting, and it's our fault for being there for 10 years. Afghanistan isn't much better.
Apparently according to Wiki-Leaks one of the things that it released there were WMDs found in Iraq the major news networks never picked it up and/or the White House never released the data officially. So I'm not sure what to believe about that since Wiki-Leaks has apparently been pretty good about revealing shit.Tree man said:No the two rather lovely ornaments into the side of the twin towers did.Sabiancym said:The taliban did not make them go over there...Arnoxthe1 said:I'm just going to say this guys. When you see... almost your very brothers get shot and blown up by whatever the enemy is that day, that's not something you get over fast.
Read War Is... for this sort of thing. It's an anthology of different war stories and papers. I found it to be a really good.
...Along with the 'WMD's *cough* oil *cough*
So do the United States, lawl.NotSoLoneWanderer said:It was proven and documented that the Taliban used torture techniques.
That's just the explanation for the "tough" part of the stereotype. The best reason I can think of for the "dumb" part is the tendency for people to associate an inverse relation between strength and intelligence.Double A said:I fail to see how being better shots makes marines dumbasses.Hal10k said:In theory, the main thing that distinguishes the United States Marine Corp from the other military service branches is an increased speed and effectiveness at which they can be deployed. The name "marine" originally referred to the amphibious assaults undertaken by forces of their nature, but the modern day Marine Corp is a bit more diverse in this regard.Double A said:Hm, I thought it was because they were elite infantry (compared to the regular army anyway) and elites are better at their job. Or at least that's the vibe I seem to be getting from every video game, movie, and book involving them.Kopikatsu said:Marines are cannon fodder. Literally. That is their entire purpose. First in, last out. They take the bullets so that the people worth something don't have to.Heimir said:They why does America only get their retards to become soldiers? The standard for the american forces is pretty low in comparison to the standards of lets say european forces.Sexy Devil said:When we're condemning a country for their actions to the point of war, we can't just turn around and start acting like them.Heimir said:Couldn't care less. Deficate on them too for good measure. Have you seen what the locals do to the corpses of marines? Now thats barbaric. When you allow your children to pull them to pieces and batter them with sticks and stones all while chanting "Allah Akbhar".
That's not to say that all Marines are dumb muscle and some do actively choose to be there, but most are put into the US Marines because they have more brawn than brains.
That's probably why.
In practice, there are a few factors that lead to the "dumb but tough" Marine stereotype. The primary factor is that boot camp for Marines is actually harder for the Marines than the other branches: it lasts longer, has higher fitness requirements, and has more difficult marksmanship requirements.
Oh...well in that case I agree with you 100%...sorry.Grouchy Imp said:I think perhaps you have misunderstood me. I wasn't having a go at the people discussing what those marines did, I was having a go at those marines for doing what they did. Each and every expletive in my post was aimed at them, not anyone ITT.erttheking said:You seriously need to calm down. People discussing Marines doing discussing things is bad? Maybe they should have had common sense and not have done this in the first place.Grouchy Imp said:snip
Don't worry about it fella, no harm done.erttheking said:Oh...well in that case I agree with you 100%...sorry.Grouchy Imp said:I think perhaps you have misunderstood me. I wasn't having a go at the people discussing what those marines did, I was having a go at those marines for doing what they did. Each and every expletive in my post was aimed at them, not anyone ITT.erttheking said:You seriously need to calm down. People discussing Marines doing discussing things is bad? Maybe they should have had common sense and not have done this in the first place.Grouchy Imp said:snip