Mass Effect 2. Game of the Year. I'm calling it. [Spoilers will probably abound]

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Guitarmasterx7

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Judging by the game releases for 2010 I wouldn't doubt it. Really the only thing I'm looking forward to is Halo Reach, with Red Dead Redemption and Splinter Cell at a "maybe."
 

Lonan

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TheNumber1Zero said:
Lonan said:
Bad opinion, incredibly obvious that you very negative and have a bad attitude.
Not Negative. Not Bad. Cautious. Paranoid. Neurotic.
I don't like the idea of dismissing the entire years games before they release as "not as good as". I like to hope that no matter how good something is, there is always a chance for something better. His Op stated otherwise.
I also fear any and all possible chances of flaming from disgruntled users who had a disliking of ME2, what with all the probatuons, suspensions, and even a ban or two going on lately.
Lonan said:
"Don't look, you might see.

Don't listen, you might hear.

Don't think, you might learn.

Don't walk, you might stumble.

Don't run, you might fall.

Don't risk, you might fail.

Don't live, you might die."
All of these are true, but so are others:

Don't believe, you might be wrong

Don't fight, you might lose

Don't feel, you might cry

Don't love, you might lose it

Just giving suggestions here.
I'm saying that he is clearly aware of how bold he's being, and yet is saying it anyway. "I'm going to call it right now" he is saying that ME2 is so good that no other game will surpass it even though we have 11 months to go.
 

TheNumber1Zero

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Lonan said:
I'm saying that he is clearly aware of how bold he's being, and yet is saying it anyway. "I'm going to call it right now" he is saying that ME2 is so good that no other game will surpass it even though we have 11 months to go.
Which is my point. Regardless of how bold he is, there is very little positive about telling the Escapist he is choosing this title over every other title that is yet to be released. There have been quite a few Escapists getting into trouble lately, and I am just a little afraid of a possible flaming.
I'm cautious that way.
 

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TheNumber1Zero said:
Lonan said:
I'm saying that he is clearly aware of how bold he's being, and yet is saying it anyway. "I'm going to call it right now" he is saying that ME2 is so good that no other game will surpass it even though we have 11 months to go.
Which is my point. Regardless of how bold he is, there is very little positive about telling the Escapist he is choosing this title over every other title that is yet to be released. There have been quite a few Escapists getting into trouble lately, and I am just a little afraid of a possible flaming.
I'm cautious that way.
I see. That makes more sense.
 

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TeragRunner said:
Greatest ending ever.
What?
Well, if enforced and entirely non-nonsensical "suicide" missions mixed with a joke of B-movie boss and healthy chunk of unnecessary, lazy, disappointing cliffhanger, the sole reason of which appears to be to get you to buy the sequel rather than fully enjoy the game you've just purchased, is your idea of the "Greatest ending ever" then you have my sympathies.

Also, its February...
 

garjian

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I think were all forgetting something...
Club Penguin: Elite Penguin Force 2.


...but really...
one borefest, constant endless mindless talking, released in january... has no chance against another borefest, another copypaste FPS, in december / november

see, after playing the first mass effect, and finishing it... i just forgot about it...
well, the only bits i can remember are the annoying bit near the beginning with the buggy and the snow etc.
then... talking talking talking talking talking endless talking...

i would expect the same from this, and seeing as no-one has said otherwise... i can only count this is overpopularity.
anyway, when fable 3 released mid december and is again, a complete failure... im sure that will win the award... showing once again that this award seems to be quite meaningless? i think so... for what its worth, Club Penguin: Elite Penguin Force 2 may aswell win it, even if it doesnt exist...
 

shadow skill

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I don't see how a game that should have ended at two should get game of the year. The combat mechanics suck, I think people who believe that the combat is good in Mass Effect or Mass Effect 2 need to go play GRAW or Killswitch, or Uncharted, or Gears. The maps are ass what with every thing being about boxes for no reason at all. The interface has been made by a complete fool that doesn't have the slightest idea about contrast. Who picks amber and off-white as the dominant colour for the menu screen background and text? Who does their best to ensure that only 75% of the dialog subtitles are readable by making the text bluish-white when an overwhelming majority of the backgrounds are bright enough to make the text unreadable because of lack of contrast? What kind of a moron decides to make your party weapon switching menu on the PC version worse than your main character's by making it so that you don't see the second gun available to them, instead when you click on their weapon the model changes almost imperceptibly? Then there is the inability to use the mouse for the code matching mini-game on the PC and the completely boring mining mini game.

So we have a game with a broken interface on either platform, but remember I said that this should have been the end of the series, here is why. The majority of the character quests are just dropped on your head, you don't have to build any connection to the newer characters in order to gain access to these missions. I've seen this kind of a system done before and of course infinitely better in a game called Persona 3. In that game the relationships are structured so that they feel like they progress "on time" within the game world instead of having them simply dropped on your head like they are in Mass Effect 2. Mass Effect 2 simply doesn't end "on time" it ends because they want to make a third game so we are stuck with an ultimately empty shell where we don't even have an interesting villain since Bioware chose to stick us with another idiot by the name of Harbinger...Screw you Bioware. You stuck us with that Gravemind-light jackass when we could have had the Illusive man as the antagonist. Heck if you needed a trilogy so bad it would have been better to have this game focus on recovering Shepard's body and then pick up the Reapers in three.
 

Therumancer

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It's too early to tell, this is a good game, and sold well, but hardly without it's flaws. I personally do not think it was state/item/management based enough for example.

Right now there are some massive heavy hitters on their way. I look at things like "Fallout: New Vegas" coming out this fall as an example of a title with massive potential despite all of the criticism in both directions about who is developing it. Then of course there is "Final Fantasy XIII", and of course "Bioshock 2" in a couple of days.

Truthfully given that they turned Mass Effect into little more than a customizable shooter, I am suspecting that Bioshock 2 which was conceived from the very beginning/first chapter as a customizable shooter might outdo it what it did right.

That said Mass Effect 2 is a great game for what it is, I admit this even as a somewhat disappointed RPG fan, but I expect 2010 and 2011 to be massive years for gaming so it's going to be hard to call up until the end, with people declaring "Game Of The Year" en masse for something nearly every month.

Also "Game Of The Year" is subjective, raising questions like "whose game of the year".
 

shadow skill

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Xzi said:
s69-5 said:
Xzi said:
Zedzero said:
TheNumber1Zero said:
Bad call

If you turn out to be wrong, you look like a fool.
If you turn out to be right, people will focus on the fact that you didn't even wait for some of the other games come out.

I see very little good that can come from giving such a title this early.
"So far" might be acceptable, but "Of the Year" Is a bit early.
This. It is fantastic, but let the other games coming out this year have a chance, way to early to. So far there have been lots of strong early releases, so if this is an indicator of 2009 there could be lost of greater games to come...but none seem to original to me, where is my Mirror's Edge? Where the innovation? Anyone care to list some to keep an eye out for this year?
We pretty much already have all the games coming out this year pre-listed. None of them can hold a candle to Mass Effect 2, even in concept.
Opinion. Nothing more.
I don't care for ME at all since I don't like shooters.

Also, everything I hear about it leads me to believe that:
A- The story is full of the regular sci-fi tropes
B- As a stand alone shooter, it would be considered watered down
C- As a stand alone RPG, it is watered down
D- Is a conversational simulator. Yawn.

But I have not played it, so I cannot fully judge.
But that doesn't change the fact that your opinion of the other releases this year, is just that, opinion.
Dude, you're a Final Fantasy fan. A series that hasn't added an innovative feature since it's inception. A series which never actually lets you make any decisions for the character. And you complain about Mass Effect being bland? Fail.
Except for the fact that Mass Effect's technical design is so shot to hell that it's not even funny, or the fact that all of the character quests are just dropped on your head because the game has no concept of pacing itself so that the quests appear "on time". Oh yes Mass Effect 2 really beats all of these games even though there are about four or five other games that are better than Mass Effect 2 mechanically depending on which mechanic you decide to take a look at.
 

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I agree, but I don't know, BioShock 2 is coming out soon and I can't wait.
 

shadow skill

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Xzi said:
shadow skill said:
Except for the fact that Mass Effect's technical design is so shot to hell that it's not even funny, or the fact that all of the character quests are just dropped on your head because the game has no concept of pacing itself so that the quests appear "on time". Oh yes Mass Effect 2 really beats all of these games even though there are about four or five other games that are better than Mass Effect 2 mechanically depending on which mechanic you decide to take a look at.
Oh yea, because letting the player decide on what pace they want to play the game at is such a bad thing. I need to be guided along like a sheep in everything I do during gameplay or I get completely lost. That's why Final Fantasy's mechanics are SO much better.

/Sarcasm.
Aww how cute. Although when you look at the fact that Gears, Uncharted, Graw, and Rainbow Six Vegas all either have better cover mechanics, or map design, and Persona 3 actually has a relationship system that doesn't just drop the equivalent of loyalty missions on your head from no where, not to mention has menu screens that you can actually read because the designers had the sense to actually use colours that provide contrast, it kind of throws your assertion under the bus.
 
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Xzi said:
Zedzero said:
TheNumber1Zero said:
Bad call

If you turn out to be wrong, you look like a fool.
If you turn out to be right, people will focus on the fact that you didn't even wait for some of the other games come out.

I see very little good that can come from giving such a title this early.
"So far" might be acceptable, but "Of the Year" Is a bit early.
This. It is fantastic, but let the other games coming out this year have a chance, way to early to. So far there have been lots of strong early releases, so if this is an indicator of 2009 there could be lost of greater games to come...but none seem to original to me, where is my Mirror's Edge? Where the innovation? Anyone care to list some to keep an eye out for this year?
We pretty much already have all the games coming out this year pre-listed. None of them can hold a candle to Mass Effect 2, even in concept.
I agree, there will be alot of good titles this year, but I don't think any of them will be as good as ME2.
 
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shadow skill said:
Xzi said:
shadow skill said:
Except for the fact that Mass Effect's technical design is so shot to hell that it's not even funny, or the fact that all of the character quests are just dropped on your head because the game has no concept of pacing itself so that the quests appear "on time". Oh yes Mass Effect 2 really beats all of these games even though there are about four or five other games that are better than Mass Effect 2 mechanically depending on which mechanic you decide to take a look at.
Oh yea, because letting the player decide on what pace they want to play the game at is such a bad thing. I need to be guided along like a sheep in everything I do during gameplay or I get completely lost. That's why Final Fantasy's mechanics are SO much better.

/Sarcasm.
Aww how cute. Although when you look at the fact that Gears, Uncharted, Graw, and Rainbow Six Vegas all either have better cover mechanics, or map design, and Persona 3 actually has a relationship system that doesn't just drop the equivalent of loyalty missions on your head from no where, not to mention has menu screens that you can actually read because the designers had the sense to actually use colours that provide contrast, it kind of throws your assertion under the bus.
I think you're taking too big a look at the mechanics of the game rather than the soul, yes it isn't a perfect shooter, but the characters, the story and the sheer awesomeness of the universe is what makes the game so brilliant, you actually care for the characters (especially Tali and Garrus).
Overall it is better than the sum of it's parts.
 

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TeragRunner said:
That's right. I'm calling it right now. I finished it a few days ago. Greatest ending ever. I may even say Decade, but it' s too early.
i certainly hope not. a game that is 75% team recruitment and planet resource scanning and 25% plot, does not deserve game of the year.

and the ending was not that exciting. the final missions were decent (the final boss was a joke) but the "cinematic" ending was exactly what i expected (read: predictable).

it also amused me how quickly your character deals with the fact that they have literally been brought back from the dead.

"I've been dead two years!?"

*pause*

"Let's save the galaxy."