Mass Effect 3 being 'tweaked' for a larger market - EA.

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As long as I get my hot, steamy gay sex option once and for all, I don't care if they tweak it so you have to wear uncooked turkeys on your legs and fight with a toothbrush while the game forsakes its electronic soundtrack and replaces it with a symphony of screaming cats and recorded vomiting while Dr. Robotnik hops on your back and violates you in seven different orifices.

Which also happens to be my fetish now, I think. That or the next Gears of War. Look at me, being topical about a subject I know nothing about! Inventories! Control schemes! Joe Lieberman?

Yeah, this looks like a good thing to type out as my first post.
 
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Can't say I'm surprised. 'Tis EA after all. I'm just sad that they seem to be running Bioware into the ground.

MercurySteam said:
PlasmaFrog said:
It's EA.

I've never resorted to using such language during times of distraught and anguish, but here it goes.

Mass Effect is FUCKED.

Another franchise bites the dust.
Great speculation. Now all you have to do is wait for the game to actually come out so you can be proven right/wrong. I'm going to assume the latter. You do realize that DA and ME are worked on by two different teams, right?

If anything, the delay was so ME3 wouldn't make some of the mistakes DA2 did, so I'm hopeful.
Most say DA2's issues were because it tried to appeal to a much broader audience. EA is saying they're going to make ME3 appeal to a broader audience. Since EA's the ones with the money, and is known for doing stupid things, its kind of hard for me to be hopeful...
 

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Irridium said:
Can't say I'm surprised. 'Tis EA after all. I'm just sad that they seem to be running Bioware into the ground.

MercurySteam said:
PlasmaFrog said:
It's EA.

I've never resorted to using such language during times of distraught and anguish, but here it goes.

Mass Effect is FUCKED.

Another franchise bites the dust.
Great speculation. Now all you have to do is wait for the game to actually come out so you can be proven right/wrong. I'm going to assume the latter. You do realize that DA and ME are worked on by two different teams, right?

If anything, the delay was so ME3 wouldn't make some of the mistakes DA2 did, so I'm hopeful.
Most say DA2's issues were because it tried to appeal to a much broader audience. EA is saying they're going to make ME3 appeal to a broader audience. Since EA's the ones with the money, and is known for doing stupid things, its kind of hard for me to be hopeful...
Well I guess we'll have to wait and see, won't we?
 

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Please don't make it dumb, please don't make it dumb...

"AND COMMANDER SHEPARD GETS DA PRINCESS AFTER HE SAVES THE WORLD!"

God damn it!
 

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Vault101 said:
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....."Normandy-Ville"?

OT: Jokes aside, you guys REALLY need to chill the fuck out. Can we just put away the pitch forks for now? We don't KNOW anything yet. Actually, that's not true. We DO know that they're bringing back Weapon and Armor customization. That's something?
wait they are bringing those things back? then whats the problem?

what the hell is wrong with people? It is amazing me that people are flipping their shit over NOTHING
That's what the Game Informer article said, yeah. We really SHOULD wait for some more info shouldn't we?

RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
GrizzlerBorno said:
If they do anything like THAT, I'll be heading the crowd marching towards EA, with the intent of burning it's HQ to the Ground. But till then, can we just relax guys?
Packing my bag in case of that. So sir; We doing a proper lynching or the 'Ye olde fashion" method of burning him at the stake?
What You mean if push come to shove, and ME3 DOES turn out to be a shameless CoD clone (for which we have no proof YET)?

Well in that case, I have one word for you: Stones........>:|
 

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Geez, guys, I'm pretty sure Bioware already said it'll be more RPG-y than ME2. Chill.
 

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II swear, if they fuck up my favorite game series, I WILL burn EA to the ground. Im still optimistic thoug.
 

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Irridium said:
Can't say I'm surprised. 'Tis EA after all. I'm just sad that they seem to be running Bioware into the ground.

MercurySteam said:
PlasmaFrog said:
It's EA.

I've never resorted to using such language during times of distraught and anguish, but here it goes.

Mass Effect is FUCKED.

Another franchise bites the dust.
Great speculation. Now all you have to do is wait for the game to actually come out so you can be proven right/wrong. I'm going to assume the latter. You do realize that DA and ME are worked on by two different teams, right?

If anything, the delay was so ME3 wouldn't make some of the mistakes DA2 did, so I'm hopeful.
Most say DA2's issues were because it tried to appeal to a much broader audience. EA is saying they're going to make ME3 appeal to a broader audience. Since EA's the ones with the money, and is known for doing stupid things, its kind of hard for me to be hopeful...
Dragon Age 2's issues came from its ridiculously short development time(whether BioWare or EA is to blame for that, I do not know). Considering what they managed in the short time they had, it was a good game. And now I'm going to get ripped to pieces because I had the audacity to enjoy Dragon Age 2.
 

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oh...so the delay wasn't to improve polish?

They...they wanted to change mechanics to make it more "appealing to a wider audience"?
(Aka: Strip those scary complicated things out and add more killing.)

We heard this same crap with Dragon Age 2 and got a shoddy product at the end.
This does conflict with earlier reports about adding more RPG features, but EA may have intervened now. Can't scare off those 12 year old COD players with mental stimulation right?

Or, if we're going to look at this negatively;
Mass Effect. Deathmatch. Multiplayer.
 
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Still Life said:
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Still Life said:
Casey Hudson has said that ME3 will invariably be compared to the top shooters on the market, such as COD and GOW and the way in which they deliver action to the player.
But WHY? Mass Effect is meant to be an RPG series, not a goddamn shooter! In no way should it be compared to the top shooters, it isn't one. It should be compared to Dragon Age, KOTOR, even The Witcher. Those are it's peers, not bloody Call of Doody.
ME is a RPG/Shooter hybrid. Bioware have stated this from ME1.

Two things:

1. Tightening up the shooter mechanics doesn't mean Bioware are ignoring the RPG aspects.

2. As I said prior, Bioware have released info that states the inclusion of richer RPG features and emphasis on story.
This implies that the Mass Effect series has a strong role-playing element. It does not. They also said the same stuff with ME2. Didn't turn out like they said it would.

Contrary to popular belief, stats =/= RPG. Being able to shape the protagonist into what you want, and able to influence the world/universe is. You can't do that in Mass Effect. You are Shepard, and no matter what you try to do, your playing as Shepard. ME1 had very bare-bone RPG elements. Most likely to set up stuff to happen in the sequels. ME2 didn't really deliver on your choices. Most were regulated to email/news stories, others were just small conversations.

This is in direct contrast to games like The Witcher, Alpha Protocol, and to a lesser extent New Vegas. Where your control over the character and his/her ability to influence the world is pretty impressive.

Not saying Mass Effect's ways of doing things are bad, not at all. But when they promise more "RPG" aspects, they're just talking about stats.
 

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EA saying "appeal to a wider audience" means dropping any sense of depth or maturity. I'm still pissed at them for that idiotic Dead Space 2 ad.
 

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after reading this, why do I suddenly feel like my hair has caught fire and must run around screaming "nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, you basturds!!!!"

anyway there goes any hope of me preordering ME3, especially after what I saw they did my beloved dragon age series.
 
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Tank207 said:
Irridium said:
Can't say I'm surprised. 'Tis EA after all. I'm just sad that they seem to be running Bioware into the ground.

MercurySteam said:
PlasmaFrog said:
It's EA.

I've never resorted to using such language during times of distraught and anguish, but here it goes.

Mass Effect is FUCKED.

Another franchise bites the dust.
Great speculation. Now all you have to do is wait for the game to actually come out so you can be proven right/wrong. I'm going to assume the latter. You do realize that DA and ME are worked on by two different teams, right?

If anything, the delay was so ME3 wouldn't make some of the mistakes DA2 did, so I'm hopeful.
Most say DA2's issues were because it tried to appeal to a much broader audience. EA is saying they're going to make ME3 appeal to a broader audience. Since EA's the ones with the money, and is known for doing stupid things, its kind of hard for me to be hopeful...
Dragon Age 2's issues came from its ridiculously short development time(whether BioWare or EA is to blame for that, I do not know). Considering what they managed in the short time they had, it was a good game. And now I'm going to get ripped to pieces because I had the audacity to enjoy Dragon Age 2.
I actually enjoyed it as well. I was pretty disappointed at the lack of polish, but I admire it for trying something different with the story and not using Bioware's standard stuff.
 

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Irridium said:
I actually enjoyed it as well. I was pretty disappointed at the lack of polish, but I admire it for trying something different with the story and not using Bioware's standard stuff.
Someone finally said it. I really liked DA2 BUT it could have been WAY better if they had worked on it more.
 

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Oh no! They are delaying Mass Effect 3... to make it worse?

I really don't see any logic in this thread. It has only been delayed a couple of months, which in relation to how many months they already intended to spend in development means nothing. Chances are if Mass Effect 3 sucks, it is not due to this minor change, it's because it was going to suck from the get-go.

But we all know it is not going to suck. Relax.