McDonald's incident

[Dr. Crawver]

just general metal rod bashing was too far. The guy should have tried to block, maybe throw a punch or two back, but there were two other cashiers there as well who should have restrained the women. A metal bar...that's not the logical choice I'd run to.

Seems like everyone is getting the punishment they deserve. I almost feel sorry for the guy though, he may have been trying to get his life back on track, get a job, and then two arses do that, and the guy snaps in self-defense. You can't even blame him too much, it's just his reaction was too strong. Back to anger management classes I guess

 

[aashell13]

wait: this guy killed someone already, and he's out of jail? rediculous. yes, the women assaulted him first, but this goes way beyond self defense.

 

[Torrasque]

I agree with the general consensus but...
One thing that we need to take into consideration is the fact that we couldn't see what was going on on the other side. For all we know, the woman could have been getting up to try and attack him again or something and he felt endangered...

This video seems oddly fitting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnV8NjE7HZA

lol, fucking win.
"you
are
a
FUCKING
pig"

 

[Torrasque]

Well, he's clearly mentally unstable. But they deserved 1 hit each though.

Also, I think his last name is funny. McIntosh... heh...

I guess you could say...
Those women bit off more than they could chew.
YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Ammutseba]

They brought it upon themselves.

 

[Torrasque]

Both sides seem retarded and they both need a little probation and anger management.

Which is why its funny to see people taking sides on this. Sorry guys, but beating someone with a metal rod 10 times while they lay on the floor and cower before you isnt exactly behavior that should be encouraged.

I like to think I am not taking any sides, but I am leaning towards the "bitches behaving like bitches deserved to be *****-slapped" group.
Either side is not completely blameless of course, that much is certain.

Also, it is interesting to post stuff like this and see how people react.

Sucker punch the *****, watch her collapse on the floor and get you a large coke and fries while you wait for the cops.

If one of them had been fat, I could have made a joke about distracting them by throwing Big Macs into various corners of the room here, but unfortunately none of them are.

(Sorry, im in full dark douchebag bad humor mode today, if you hadnt noticed. I apologize.)

lol, no problem dude. We've all been there before.
I call mine "Mondays"

 

[Craorach]

I agree with this mostly. I don't think the ability to stand up on one's own is indicative of being able to fight still. This guy was in the right... and then the video continued another 15-30 seconds beyond the point where they were no longer a threat. He even paused, perhaps to let them get up, if they'd needed that much time to get up, even if they were able to stand they were no longer in any condition to say try and throw another punch.

The only thing I would have changed about the outcome of the sentences (as I think both were in the wrong) is I probably would have allowed some of the guy's sentence to be exchanged for anger management as this did start as an act of self-defense and I think it would be more beneficial to him and the community at large then paying tons of money to keep him locked up longer.

Unfortunately we have no idea what happened below the counter. We also cannot clearly hear anything he is saying or they are saying.

We can assume they were laying there helpless, or we can assume they were lashing out and trying to get up to carry on the fight.

Either way, what we do know is they first insulted, then assaulted, a person just trying to do their job. They jumped the counter in order to continue the assault and attempted to attack someone who was walking away.

 

[Engarde]

So because someone argues with me and slaps me the majority thinks I am in the right to knock them to the ground with a metal bar? Everyone deserves the sentence they received, it seems.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

Fully justified. He shouldn't have been charged with anything. Those two fucking cunts should have gotten some jail time, though.
If you're gonna jump over the counter or go behind the counter in any way, you FUCKING deserve what's coming to you. That something just so happened to be a metal rod.

Now those cunts are gonna remember not to fuck with people who have terrible McJobs.

"I just got assaulted by two customers. Rather then talk to my manager or call the cops, I'm going to severely beat this woman with a metal rod and possibly get thrown in jail for attempted murder in the 1st degree, because that seems like the logical thing to do right now."

Justified my ass. He was getting paid and everybody knows what they're getting into when they get a job in that industry. If you're not prepared to take shit from people, you shouldn't be in the fast food industry. By now its too late for hindsight and now two woman are mentally scarred for life and a man is in jail because everyone was being an goddamn idiot, but Mr. Mcintosh is probably the biggest idiot in that video simply because he was in the position to walk away and he chose not to. Now he's going to jail and he is facing a very serious felony charge, and you know what, I hope they convict his ass, because I don't want a man who thinks the best way out of a situation is to beat someone with a metal rod walking on the streets.

 

[Radoh]

They deserved to be beaten with a metal rod? That's too much for me to believe they deserved it. Honestly, that's a whole lot of violence to have "deserved it" in my book.
Then again, almost any amount of violence is too much for me so...

lol, this is even more appropriate given your Fluttershy avatar xD

Are you trying to say that Fluttershy wouldn't, as they say, "smack a hoe"?

Fluttershy wrestles with bears

Now now, you're selling her short. Not only does she wrestle bears, she also: Made an Adult Dragon cry, stared down a Cockatrice and survived, waltzed into a Hydra's den do drop off some frogs, caused a riot in Canterlot, caused a riot in Ponyville, tamed a Manticore, and stole the Princess's pet Phoenix.

 

[Craorach]

So because someone argues with me and slaps me the majority thinks I am in the right to knock them to the ground with a metal bar? Everyone deserves the sentence they received, it seems.

You don't see the difference between "argue and slap" and "jump the counter and chase after someone in their place of work"?

 

[XT inc]

I think the first couple of smack were warrented, depending on their placement. I mean what is the protocol for random person jumping over the counter after being hit in the face.

Is there no just way to beat ass anymore, when did it become official to lay down and wait for the cops to show up?

That dude went way overkill, and that is just with the hopefull assumption that it was only like a light aluminum pole and not a heavy steel pipe. Things could only have gotten worse if they had made it back into the kitchen with all the hot stuff.

 

[scorptatious]

Geez. I don't know who to side with here.

On one hand, those two shouldn't have got behind the counter and assaulted him. On the other hand, the cashier shouldn't have beaten them while they were still down.

I guess it's a good thing both parties were charged.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

start as an act of self-defense

It was never self-defense. These people were not a threat to him and even if they were, you can't claim self-defense with a deadly weapon (such as a metal rod) unless they're equally armed. That's the law in Massachusetts, but regardless of where this is, he threw the self-defense idea out the window when he continued to beat her. He'll probably still get anger management, but he's going to go to those lessons via prison transport. You don't assault someone with a deadly weapon multiple times and not get thrown in jail because the person you were striking pissed you off. The world doesn't work that way.

 

[Darius Brogan]

Given the sound the bar made, it obviously wasn't very heavy, so the beating probably looks much worse than it was, but that was still overkill.

Honestly though, those women had no right to get aggressive at all. If the authenticity of a bill is called into question, that doesn't make it your fault it's counterfeit, it just makes it counterfeit, and jumping over the counter to assault the man saying it's counterfeit calls all kinds of questions up. For example: Why did you react so violently if you knew the bill was authentic?

It would have been much easier to ask for the manager, but instead they jump the counter and assault the cashier? One of two things happened here.
A) It really was counterfeit, they knew it, and wanted to get it back so as not to be charged with counterfeiting/knowingly possessing counterfeit money.
B) They, too, have serious mental problems and their first instinct after being told their money was no good, as it was fake, was to try and beat the cashier into believing otherwise.

Either way, they got what they deserved.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

So because someone argues with me and slaps me the majority thinks I am in the right to knock them to the ground with a metal bar? Everyone deserves the sentence they received, it seems.

You don't see the difference between "argue and slap" and "jump the counter and chase after someone in their place of work"?

And you don't see anything wrong with his response to that being 'beat this woman to a bloody pulp with a large metal rod that could possibly kill her?'

 

[Thaluikhain]

An alpha would probably rallied two or three persons and then each of them grab one limb of Mr. Metal Rod batshitcrazy Beatdown guy and the whole incident would have been over much much smoother

Erm...various police forces across the world are extensively trained and equipped to work in groups to take down sole vioent offenders, because getting hit in the face just once with a metal bar can ruin your whole day. A few months ago there was posted here a video of just one guy with a knife in the UK keeping a whole bunch of police at bay.

Now, I'd not want to accuse Maccas of cutting budgets or anything, but I'm not sure if they ensure training and equipment to take down violent staff, or if "tackling co-workers who've already killed when armed with metal bars" if part of the job description.

 

[Torrasque]

Fully justified. He shouldn't have been charged with anything. Those two fucking cunts should have gotten some jail time, though.
If you're gonna jump over the counter or go behind the counter in any way, you FUCKING deserve what's coming to you. That something just so happened to be a metal rod.

Now those cunts are gonna remember not to fuck with people who have terrible McJobs.

"I just got assaulted by two customers. Rather then talk to my manager or call the cops, I'm going to severely beat this woman with a metal rod and possibly get thrown in jail for attempted murder in the 1st degree, because that seems like the logical thing to do right now."

Justified my ass. He was getting paid and everybody knows what they're getting into when they get a job in that industry. If you're not prepared to take shit from people, you shouldn't be in the fast food industry. By now its too late for hindsight and now two woman are mentally scarred for life and a man is in jail because everyone was being an goddamn idiot, but Mr. Mcintosh is probably the biggest idiot in that video simply because he was in the position to walk away and he chose not to. Now he's going to jail and he is facing a very serious felony charge, and you know what, I hope they convict his ass, because I don't want a man who thinks the best way out of a situation is to beat someone with a metal rod walking on the streets.

Considering one of them jumped over the counter in pursuit, and the other walked around the counter, I don't think he could have walked away if he wanted to.