McDonald's incident

[Craorach]

I'm lucky at my job then! My boss has a sign that says that, and she regularly tells me if anyone comes in and gives me shit, I can tell them to not let the door hit them on the ass on the way out (in those exact words, even). I've told a customer once that if she didn't like our prices, she could go elsewhere. She ended up spending over $40 in our store.

Luckiest employee ever. :^

Do you work in big business fast food or retail, or it a smaller, more independent?

The bigger the business gets, the less they care about their employees.

 

[let's rock]

One thing to say here

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

Both are in the wrong, but the customers had it coming. If he only used his fists to get them to back off i would side with him, but he went over the line with the metal and the hitting while they were down.

If he won't take your money either get out another bill or leave, jump over the counter and scream at the employee? That is stupid for many reasons.

1. It is a shitty job I have little to no tolerance for morons
2. I take that plus the fact that a yelling customer puts worker on edge
3. Hit the employee or give them a reason to have to defend themself.

What do you get? Violence!

Sorry, but you don't get to cry because you lost the fight you started.

this, especially the last line, you sit there poking a angry ass person who is working a shitty job, what the fuck do you expect them to do, shit sparky muffins that makes everything better? hell no, they are gonna woop some ass.


OT: the rod beating, especially after the first "swing" or so, was much, but god dammit ghetto chicks..please, you are not invincible. I swear this video could've been put in any mcdonalds in my town and i wouldn't have batted an eye lash if it was here.

 

[Engarde]

Law is the law. I still don't see the need to knock someone to the floor with a metal bar, but a valid point nonetheless.

First thing that comes to hand in a moment of violence.

Frankly, there are many FAR more dangerous things he could have done or used. Just as an example off the top of my head, a fryer basket fresh from 200 degree oil.

Now that would have been nasty, ouch. I don't think people would agree with him so much if he had done that, true. Interesting point, I hadn't thought of that.

 

[Bobbity]

He killed a classmate in highschool? Fuck, but I would have wanted to be pretty sure that he was stable before I let him back on the streets...

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

Most comments on the TDW site say "bitches deserved it" which I have to agree with.
You don't poke an angry bear and then chase it into a corner.

I have to disagree. The bear analogy is fine until you remember that this is a rational human being who should know when to stop. Retaliation: fine. Beating them with a metal rod when they're down: not fine. That's taking it too far.

In my example, the bear is the cashier who went to the back, and the people poking the bear are obviously the two women. I simply mean you don't chase an irritated person into a corner and expect nothing to happen, the person will almost always react in a violent and retaliatory way.
And yes, I agree that after the first couple hits, that was going too far.

Ah, hmm...good point. You are pretty much asking for it if you pursue him, yeah. They were kinda pushing their luck I guess.

 

[Raesvelg]

Much like other, similar incidents, I have little to no sympathy for the women who instigated it. They picked the fight, they don't get to ***** about the consequences, and I sincerely hope that they realize that you can't always get away with being a psychotic *****. Assuming that the person you're abusing, particularly if you cross the line into assault, will just passively take it, is a good way to get yourself hurt.

As they discovered, much to their undoubted chagrin and my personal amusement.

 

[rangerman351]

Wait, why is no one caring that HE KILLED A HIGH SCHOOL CLASSMATE. What the hell, man?

 

[Snowalker]

No one commenting on the fact the dude name is FUCKING MACKINTOSH... Escapists, you're letting me down.

 

[Darius Brogan]

Yes, there was probably a plethora of alternative options open to most people, however, he has a history of violence, and is more than likely not completely stable.
His reaction to the situation is exactly was would be expected of someone with major anger issues.

If you noticed when he grabbed the bar, he had to seriously reach over the back, telling me that there wasn't much opportunity to get into the back via an open path, and he therefore couldn't have gone out the back door.

The two women deliberately penned him in so he couldn't get away from them, presumably so they could continue their verbal and physical assault.

The simple fact that the man attempted to walk away in the first place, given his mental instability, is a sign of self control. When the women penned him in, it was obviously the end of his rope.

And his history will probably get him a harsher sentence since he is a repeat offender. And if it is exactly what you would expect, would you hire this man?

And I suppose you could put some blame on the coworkers for even allowing that woman to climb up and over the wall and allow her to just keep going without any intervention. I'm not saying one party is wrong and one party is right. I'm saying both parties were idiotic in the end, but he didn't have to be. It was avoidable and it could have been prevented, but it was not and now one man is probably going to prison. What I'm being bothered by is the large attempts at justifying his actions. He wasn't justified in striking that person multiple times, especially after they stopped harassing him and were sobbing on the floor (You can hear him strike her again at about 55 seconds in after he initially stopped.)

Fact of the matter is, you can't justify either side.

I completely understand where you're coming from here, but you're ignoring the fact that this man is obviously mentally unstable. (Also, I put quite a bit of blame on his co-workers, because their efforts were pitiful)

Mental instability causes people to think in strange ways, and react in even stranger ways.

Anger like that doesn't just 'pop' in and out whenever, and his actions are minimally justified because he's got what are obviously severe issues. If the women had known he was inherently violent, they wouldn't have tried to assault him, and he wouldn't have beaten them down in a loss of control.

Given that he's been in prison once before, it's likely that he was hired as a show of charity on the part of the manager, or his parole officer got the job for him.

Leaving things at this: The women are stupid stunned cunts for reacting like that because of some fucking money, and the guy should be sent to an institution that can hopefully help him overcome his huge anger issues.
I say this because he obviously made an attempt to avoid conflict, when he tried to walk away and the women penned him in.

 

[jpoon]

Damn, that moron is obviously right back where he should be (in jail). Looks like McDumpster's was a bit too stressful for that guy.

 

[Darius Brogan]

He killed a classmate in highschool? Fuck, but I would have wanted to be pretty sure that he was stable before I let him back on the streets...

As evidenced by his attempt to walk away before the beat-down started, he was trying to exercise control and avoid physical conflict.

 

[RaikuFA]

What happened to, "We reserve the right to refuse service"? Why didn't this individual just tell them to GTFO if they can't act like civilized customers (is that an oxymoron yet?)

because "the customer is always right" which needs to be abolished

 

[Darius Brogan]

Damn, that moron is obviously right back where he should be (in jail). Looks like McDumpster's was a bit too stressful for that guy.

Yes, blame the mentally unstable guy with anger issues that two stunned cunts penned him behind the counter and tried to assault him verbally and physically because they had a counterfeit $50 in their purse.

That makes so much sense.

 

[Torrasque]

No one commenting on the fact the dude name is FUCKING MACKINTOSH... Escapists, you're letting me down.

One person already made a comment about it, and I made a Crusoe joke about it.
Y U NO SEE IT?!

 

[RaikuFA]

and what have the coworkers get fired over it? you know theyd get fired for even touching her

They wouldn't get fired for touching a customer if she is acting hostile towards them

yes they can, youre not allowed to even look a customer in the eye without their permission lest you get a beatdown for making the customer mad

 

[Lolth17]

Luckily the law does not agree with the internet. Using a deadly weapon against an unarmed opponent is very, very much illegal, and I sincerely hope he gets locked up and the key thrown far, far away.

That's a little bit harsh for a guy who had a history of violence, and therefore has serious impulse control problems.

In the video, he's obviously trying to walk away from the women to prevent conflict, ad the women corner him to continue their assault.

Even the MOST reserved human being would react violently when their physical well-being is threatened, especially if there's no way around the situation. Given this guys violent history, the stunned cunts are lucky he didn't beat them to death.

This is another perfect example of 'You never know who you're fucking with'. My best advice in any situation like this is "So don't fuck with people, because there's a good chance they'll beat you to death"

Yeah, because I think people with histories of violence and serious impulse control problems deserve my pity. /internetsarcasm

The point is, you are not allowed to retaliate to non-deadly force with deadly force. In other words, no matter how many times you slap me in the face and call me an idiot, it is not okay for me to take out a gun and blow your head off. Mitigating, maybe, but not okay. It truly concerns me how many people seem to think that this behavior is okay/warranted in the situation. Yes, he was provoked. It doesn't mean that gives him the right to nearly beat an unarmed female to death.

And btw, he's going to have a hell of a hard time claiming self-defense, given that she's much smaller than him and had no weapon. But yeah, slapping him and getting up in his face totally warrants a vicious beating with a deadly weapon while co-workers try to pry him off and other customers are screaming, panicking, and calling the cops. Totally sounds like he's the victim here.

 

[TheDarkestDerp]

Funny how people seem to find themselves somehow capable of determining what is "deserved" in situations like this. "This is overkill" "this is excessive" ...*shrugs* Whatever... I'm not one to determine what was "called for".

What I do know is this; if you're going to strike another human being, a stranger, whom you have no earthly idea if that person is Mr Wizard's Mild-mannered clone or an escaped mental patient with a boxblade and a thirst for human organs, you opened your own can of worms, fucking deal with the consequences, crybaby. Didn't want to get beaten down with a 'metal rod', probably shouldn't have assaulted the poor shmuck working at McDonalds in the first place. Be glad he didn't have a gun you damn idiots.