I don't even like her, I find the character irriating. But it's a point of pride to get the entire team through isn't it. Either that or none of them...Mathak said:
ME2's Final Mission (Spoilers... SPOILERS!!! Ok?)
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I only played through once and all survived.
I just ignored the NPCs and used common sense. Why wouldn't you put the AI programme that has entire knowledge of thousands of differant AIs to hack a computer. And why wouldn't you put Garrus in charge of the other team and have Samara use the forcefield thing. It just makes sense.
I just ignored the NPCs and used common sense. Why wouldn't you put the AI programme that has entire knowledge of thousands of differant AIs to hack a computer. And why wouldn't you put Garrus in charge of the other team and have Samara use the forcefield thing. It just makes sense.
If you're really that obsessed with getting everyone to survive 100% for such a mediocre, broken and let's face it downright shit sequel to what was a brilliantly paced story, and innovative new IP, then go here. http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Suicide_mission#Suicide_Missionmanythings said:
There we go. All happy, now go finish it. I'm going to go back to my own little world where Mass Effect II doesn't exist.
You do realise you spent a portion of your life giving me an opinion that will never matter to anyone, right?Daedalus1942 said:
Here's my key: I have successfully saved my entire team (and crew) twice using this method:
-Fully upgrade the ship and gain all loyalties, except Legion's.
-Do everything else in the galaxy (excluding side-missions if you don't wanna do them) BEFORE you get the Reaper IFF.
-Get the Reaper IFF. Get Legion. Get his loyalty mission and his upgrade and do both immediately.
-Once everything else is done, go to the Omega-4 Relay. This will trigger the capturing of your crew by the Collectors.
-As soon as you regain control of the Normandy, go through the Omega-4 Relay. (You should have all upgrades and loyalties by now.) It is important to go through right away or your crew will die (at least in part.)
-Once infiltrating the Collector base:
Tech Specialist: Tali
Fire Team Leader: Garrus
Your team: Mordin and Grunt.
Try to open the valves for your tech specialist as quickly as humanly possible, even if the Collector's are still shooting at you. (But don't die.)
Escort: Jacob
Fire Team Leader: Garrus
Biotic Specialist: Jack
Your team: Mordin and Grunt
-Fully upgrade the ship and gain all loyalties, except Legion's.
-Do everything else in the galaxy (excluding side-missions if you don't wanna do them) BEFORE you get the Reaper IFF.
-Get the Reaper IFF. Get Legion. Get his loyalty mission and his upgrade and do both immediately.
-Once everything else is done, go to the Omega-4 Relay. This will trigger the capturing of your crew by the Collectors.
-As soon as you regain control of the Normandy, go through the Omega-4 Relay. (You should have all upgrades and loyalties by now.) It is important to go through right away or your crew will die (at least in part.)
-Once infiltrating the Collector base:
Tech Specialist: Tali
Fire Team Leader: Garrus
Your team: Mordin and Grunt.
Try to open the valves for your tech specialist as quickly as humanly possible, even if the Collector's are still shooting at you. (But don't die.)
Escort: Jacob
Fire Team Leader: Garrus
Biotic Specialist: Jack
Your team: Mordin and Grunt
I've done this twice, both times only 1 person died. 1st time, I brought Zaeed with me to fight Human Reaper, I was Paragon Shep, Zaeed wasn't loyal. You can guess the outcome. 2nd time: Paragon Shep once again. Person going through the tube, Mordin. My reasoning, with him being a badass scientist, he could make a door work. Worst reasoning ever. My 3rd time is Renegade Shep. I'll let you know how that turns out.
That still doesn't change the fact Bioware did everything in their power to shit all over what could have been an interesting, rich series, in favour of a mainstream shooter audience, and the sad thing is, it didn't even do THAT aspect well...manythings said:
The cover system was fucking woeful compared to say Gears of War, or Splinter Cell Conviction.
I've always and will always be amazed about this discussion. I've played through the game twice and both times I saved my entire crew. The only thing they desires of you is to play the game completely, actually talk to your crew to discover the upgrades, finish all the loyal missions and don't screw them up. Even if you don't have enough renegade/paragon points on those occasions you have to make important choices the crew can still be saved by not selecting them during the suicude mission. When selecting the crew for the suicide mission they give a pretty thorough facts on what all the characters are good at, or am the only one that read that part instead of flinging a fucking coin?
I apologise if it's been answered before. but:
Upgrades: The required Normandy upgrades are new shields from Jacob, new armour from Tali and new weapons from Garrus. Either ask them about upgrades or unlock them for research by completing their loyalty mission.
The Mission Itself: Everyone needs to be loyal if you want to guarantee everyone alive. If you made it to the base with no casualties then you have all the necessary upgrades.
Your specialist in the vent should be either Tali, Legion or Kasumi, assuming that they're loyal.
Your fire team leader should be either Garrus or Miranda, assuming that they're loyal.
You must hit all the vents before your specialist is killed. If you made the right choices, then everyone should be alive when you proceed to the processing chamber. If you went through the Omega 4 relay immediately after your crew were kidnapped, you should save them all.
Your biotic specialist should be either Samara or Jack, do NOT pick Miranda per her suggestion, only Samara and Jack will save your team, assuming they're loyal.
Your fire team leader should probably just stay over from your first choice, for example Garrus.
To escort the surviving crew to the Normandy, pick Mordin. Even if he is loyal, he has a chance to die randomly during the final battle. Each character has a defense rating, Mordin's is one of the lowest.
Everyone should still be fine when you reach the final battle. Take whoever you want, but they must be loyal. If not, they will die after the final boss.
Using this guide, everybody should survive.
Upgrades: The required Normandy upgrades are new shields from Jacob, new armour from Tali and new weapons from Garrus. Either ask them about upgrades or unlock them for research by completing their loyalty mission.
The Mission Itself: Everyone needs to be loyal if you want to guarantee everyone alive. If you made it to the base with no casualties then you have all the necessary upgrades.
Your specialist in the vent should be either Tali, Legion or Kasumi, assuming that they're loyal.
Your fire team leader should be either Garrus or Miranda, assuming that they're loyal.
You must hit all the vents before your specialist is killed. If you made the right choices, then everyone should be alive when you proceed to the processing chamber. If you went through the Omega 4 relay immediately after your crew were kidnapped, you should save them all.
Your biotic specialist should be either Samara or Jack, do NOT pick Miranda per her suggestion, only Samara and Jack will save your team, assuming they're loyal.
Your fire team leader should probably just stay over from your first choice, for example Garrus.
To escort the surviving crew to the Normandy, pick Mordin. Even if he is loyal, he has a chance to die randomly during the final battle. Each character has a defense rating, Mordin's is one of the lowest.
Everyone should still be fine when you reach the final battle. Take whoever you want, but they must be loyal. If not, they will die after the final boss.
Using this guide, everybody should survive.
Never let Samara lead a squad. Tali should be first specialist, Garus leads first squad.manythings said:
Then, Jack is biotic specialist, while miranda leads second squad.
That works for me.
So why is it so important to you that I know what you think? If you are going to pretend that Gears has a better narrative than say... a piece of bubble wrap, it's pretty clear that you just want to say you hate BioWare. Which is fine, feel free to have you opinion but that doesn't mean I am going to give it credence.Daedalus1942 said:
You're a moron and you completely missed the point of my post. I was stating Gears has a far better cover and battle system, nothing more. The plot's barely there and while in Mass Effect II the plot Continuity (or rather lack of) isn't great, it's far superiour to Gear's storytelling.manythings said:
I happen to love bioware, I enjoyed Dragon Age, Baldur's Gate, NWN 1 and 2, Kotor 1 and 2, hell I even liked Sonic Chronicles (which no-one did), I love Mass Effect (won't shut up about it), but they just went and fucked up the sequel in nearly every way possible.
On PC the game was all but broken. So many glitches, the story made no sense in comparison to the first game, the characters weren't as likeable, and they even gutted the length of the game. It was so short and pointless. Hardly any sidequests, You collect your team gain their "loyalty" and then go fight the final boss (which by the way was the most retarded game design I've seen in any game ever).