ME3 "Operation Goliath"

[tobi the good boy]

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As the guy said before me, you're just a troll.

Go back to your lonely little life and leave me in peace.

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Oh, holy fuck you're just a troll aren't you? Because I just told you I'm not on good terms with BioWare, I made it quite obvious in my post that there are issues I have with ME3. I pretty much put it straight out there and you just went "HURR DURR YOU MUST BE A FANBOY". Find something better to do with your life you pathetic, little man.

Oh man.

I love it when fanboys are in denial. It gives the argument a certain flavour. Tell me good pal. Seeing as you kind of skipped over the MAIN POINT OF MY POST. What was your issue with my post?

See, I notice something with fanboys. They always find an issue with my posts regardless of the content. I laid out my criticism of the game and look what you did! You came in, chest puffed ready to be offended. Simply because I don't like your blasted game. It's okay to disagree with me, but when your post has nothing of substance. Then well? YOU'RE A FANBOY!

Come at me with an actual argument and then you'll transcend the fanboy category. Until then, you will remain in that category. Deal with it.

What is your transitional line between 'Fan' and 'Fanboy'?

Fans are simply people who enjoy the series.

Fanboys cannot accept that others don't.

Fair definitions: However, I believe that the people you seem to actively cite as 'Fanboys' aren't so much, dismissive of Mass Effects failings, as they are agitated by your less than civil approach to the matter.

I have yet to finish ME3, have not had the time, so I won't argue if it's good or not (That would be stupid).

That might be the case. but from my perspective I can't really tell the difference. So like it or not, if their only reply is "OMG U SO HOSTILE" I'm going to dismiss them as a fanboy.

Then are you not simply being as close minded as the fanboys? Hostility is not the most effective way of retorting an argument and besides, If you act angrily towards the fanboys you're just going to incite more hatred, something this forum is actively against. By all means state your opinion, just be sensitive to others as well.

 

[Laser Priest]

The only failing of the single-player was the ending.

Everything else succeeded in living up to the massive hype that I had built up and was truly excellent.

Plus, they still have other things to do with their game aside from just addressing that complaint.

 

[Mrsoupcup]

These people are walking human diseases and they need to be put down.

It might be a good time to just slow down and take it easy man, I get were your frustrations lie but the more flustered you get the more you devolve into insults and name calling. I mean your starting to act just as obnoxious and irrational as the fanboys you keep raging about.

OT: Honestly I don't think Bioware fully understands what they have done, given the largely bewildered confused response from the devs. So it's no surprise they make some weekend event like this trying to calm the rage, though honestly there really isn't anything they can do to get people to calm down. Even ending DLC would just make most even more angry, though after seeing how some of Bioware's PR people were basically insulting people on twitter I really don't feel sorry.

 

[Darkmantle]

Secondly, Zeel will never stop posting hate and making it seem like it's truth so just stop replying.

I will always believe people can be rationally talked and dealt with, except for troll. Troll have a specif place in internet Hell.

Fans are simply people who enjoy the series.

Fanboys cannot accept that others don't.

There are also anti-fanboys, or haters, or whatever term you with to attribute to them. They seem to take pride and joy from their hatred. There the Sith of the internet, except no cool red light-sabers.

Sure. And do they ride Magical Unicorns into battle aswell?

Sorry, I dont believe in "anti-fanboys" or "haters". it is simply a buzzword created to derail the argument. Like when religious fanatics equate belief in science to their irrational faith. It's a displacement tactic. paint your enemy with the same brush type of thing.

An "anti-fanboy" is basically someone that requires good arguments to support their series. A label for that is unnecessary.

Hatedoms exist zeel. Just look at how MLP is received.

here's the difference by example.

I don't like MLP, not even a little bit. A friend convinced me to watch it, I did, I didn't like it, end of story for me. I am a rational person.

A "hater" or member of a hatedom, does as follows. Starts threads about how MLP is the worst thing ever. says that anyone who likes the show is dumb. says the creators ought to be lynched for their work, viciously attacks anyone who expresses any defence for MLP.

You see the problem here is that "fanboy" and "hater" get thrown around way too much in lieu of an actual argument, so the terms are a bit oversaturated and are receiving a lot of negative feedback.

Now "anti-fanboy" isn't a real term, it's probably just people trying to find a better word than "hater" for someone who is a member of a hatedom.

Captcha: nut case

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[skywolfblue]

Was there suppose to be some kind of alert that let me know that its triggered?

I beat several missions against reapers on silver today, but didn't notice any kind of pop up. (xbox 360)

 

[Mrsoupcup]

Was there suppose to be some kind of alert that let me know that its triggered?

I beat several missions against reapers on silver today, but didn't notice any kind of pop up. (xbox 360)

Nope I beat a few missions against Reaper on Silver and nothing. Apparently the packs get unlocked Tuesday.

 

[Sprinal]

I don't care for other peoples feelings. I find them petty and overly emotional.

It comes across... I didn't like No2 and I didn't even bother with 3. It seemed aweful. I wanted a game where I didn't even have to shoot... Didn't get it. That made me sad. Really it did. So as a result I am not buying anything from EA/Bioware until they can convince me that I should. This is my way of protesting.

but Don't you think that there is a high chance of being Perma Banned if you keep this up? Its good to have your opinions but please I don't want to see I giant hammer fall upon your IP address

EDIT: I'm not really sure What I was trying to get at here but I supose the main reason for posting was that I think you should control your rage a little.

 

[Fleetfiend]

...failings of the single player campaign....

Wut? The Singeplayer campaign is great. I mean, you can't say the singleplayer failed just because 10 minutes of a 25+ hour game was bad.

Thank you. If the ending offended you (which I am one of the .00000001% of players for which it didn't), I can see how that sours the rest of the experience... but that doesn't make the rest of the experience. Did you enjoy it up until the end? If so, the game wasn't bad... the ending was.

OT: Okay, so what you're saying is... you didn't like the campaign, so it's not okay for them to continue doing things with other parts of the game, even little things that probably took no dev time at all and made the multiplayer a bit more interesting and active? That makes sense, right? >.> Grow up a little.

 

[Tuesday Night Fever]

Well. I liked the sabotage thing. it was pretty fucking fun in my playthrough. I decided to keep the sabotage secret until the pinnacle moment and when my Shepard revealed it and Mordin was like "I MADE A MISTAKE". I was pretty fucking impressed. Yes, that moment was done well. Hell Mordin sold me on that choice.. because I was convinced up to that point that I was going it sabotage it. And, at that moment.. I just couldn't screw over two pals. I mean, one pal is alright, but two? There's renegade and then theres asshole.

I wouldn't quite compare it to Ashley/Kaidan's decision but it was close.Closer to the wrex thing. Which wasn't really a big deal for me because I maxed out Intimidate fairly early.

So no that particular moment didn't resonate with me.

The legion and Tali thing was pretty bleh for me. And so melodramatic. holy shit. I've seen youtube videos of her suicide and I can't get over the cheese of it all. "OGMOMG MY PEOPLE, MASKLESS DIVE INTO THE OCEAN" Give me a break tali.

Like, let me see if I can build my argument like this. You know the ashley/Shepard showdown over the council. That could've been a tense moment. They couldn've built that moment much better. One renegade interupt shouldn't have solved that issue. The whole trust issue thing had been bubbling up from the beginning of the game.. and to see it resolved with a silly renegade interrupt is disappointing.

I'd be okay with one wasted opportunity, but there are too many for me to just ignore them.

The trial had oodles of potential for great moments. They mucked that away.

Hell, the starkid could've been done like Vigil. They mucked that away.

The anderson moment could've been touching. They mucked that away.

All in the name of streamlining rpg aspects. it's despicable. I can not appreciate a game that cripples itself just to entertain the casual market assholes.

Yeah, I got a much different Legion/Tali scene than you did. I was playing a Paragon game, though. The Paragon scene is actually pretty good, and it's well worth giving it a chance.

Honestly, I'm kinda getting the vibe that maybe they just botched the Renegade version of the game. Because the Paragon versions of a lot of the big scenes in the game seem to be a lot less... I dunno... hammy, I guess? Like the part with Udina and the Council. After my playthrough I was pretty curious how that would go if I'd taken the Renegade interrupt... and jeez... yeah... I definitely can see why you dislike it so much. Not because of what happens, but because of how it happens.

I definitely agree with you on the starchild. It had the potential to be ME3's Vigil... but fell pretty ridiculously far short.

I actually rather liked the Anderson moment. What botched it for me was that it was so short, and lead straight into the starchild. I actually would have liked the ending a whole lot more if it had ended at the scene with Shepard and Anderson and left their fates kinda ambiguous.

I dunno if I'd go so far as to call streamlining despicable. I'd probably feel much stronger about it though if it were happening to a series like System Shock, which I admit to being a much bigger fan of. But for the time... I dunno. I see nothing wrong with being inclusive, as long as that doesn't mean ruining the game experience. The days of ludicrously difficult NES games and incredibly complicated strategy and/or simulation UIs are in the past at this point, and sometimes I think that might actually be a good thing. You probably disagree, but that's cool. To be honest, I wish we could have our cake and eat it too. I wish there was a more even split between the number of 'inclusive' and 'hardcore' games coming out. One can hope, I guess.

 

[Thatrocketeer]

Is it just me? Or is everyone here just ignoring Zeel's constructive posts and instead just provokes the guy into calling everyone fanboys? I mean, Zeel and Tuesday Night Fever are having a legit discussion about the game without anyone calling anyone names. That does prove that Zeel's not just a fucking hate machine.

He did make legit criticisms in page 1 until this guy just straight up provoked him into his anti-bioware-I'll-call-everyone-who-disagrees-fanboys mode:

Ok, seriously? What's your hard-on for being so anti-BioWare? Hell, I'm not BioWare's biggest fan but even you're starting to piss me off. Any mention of BioWare, EA, Mass Effect or Dragon Age and you're on it like a hawk to spout your useless and inane hatred.

You don't like BioWare, we fucking get it.

Anyway, they said they'll "talk" about the ending in the future so... this seems like more of an olive branch than a "PLEASE FORGET OUR ENDING SUCKS" tactic. That is, y'know, if they actually do speak about it.

And then the whole forum suddenly jumped on the bandwagon and started to call him out. I know I'm basically defending someone infamous in this forum, but one has to wonder, when the MAJORITY of the forum suddenly teams up against a single person, you'd have to wonder yourself,

"What the fuck is wrong with these people?"

OT: I would've liked a link to explain what Operation Goliath is. Yeah I get it's a multiplayer thing, but does it include a new mechanic like coop/ctf/deathmatches? New map perhaps? I may get ME3 for its multiplayer schtick, since its relatively separate from its single player campaign and it looks Gears-of-War-like without the overtly brown color scheme.

 

[Jitters Caffeine]

All I can say is "DEATH TO ALL BRUTES"

 

[Daystar Clarion]

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The guy is one more infraction from a permaban and he's only been here for a couple of months.

He may have valid points from time to time, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

It's about how zealous (see what I did thar?) and aggressive he is in his posts.

Click his profile, look at his posting history. 90% of his posts are on threads with something to do with Bioware/Mass Effect. For someone who doesn't like them very much, he spends a hell of a lot of time 'hating' them.

It's like he's in the Bioware closet or something.

 

[Sparrow]

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Any "valid" points he ever makes are simply made to piss people off. He's scum, plain and simple.

 

[Gustof26]

Secondly, Zeel will never stop posting hate and making it seem like it's truth so just stop replying.

I will always believe people can be rationally talked and dealt with, except for troll. Troll have a specif place in internet Hell.

Fans are simply people who enjoy the series.

Fanboys cannot accept that others don't.

There are also anti-fanboys, or haters, or whatever term you with to attribute to them. They seem to take pride and joy from their hatred. There the Sith of the internet, except no cool red light-sabers.

Sure. And do they ride Magical Unicorns into battle aswell?

Sorry, I dont believe in "anti-fanboys" or "haters". it is simply a buzzword created to derail the argument. Like when religious fanatics equate belief in science to their irrational faith. It's a displacement tactic. paint your enemy with the same brush type of thing.

An "anti-fanboy" is basically someone that requires good arguments to support their series. A label for that is unnecessary.

I understand where your coming from on this matter. I personally don't believe in fanboys. It's in your own words, "It is simply a buzz word...to derail the argument." Like the internet Godwin's law. You can throw out any argument using Anti-fanboy, just as easily as you can using Fanboy.

Your right that it's an unnecessary label, much like the one of Fanboy. I don't think there exist such a mystical creature.

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Any "valid" points he ever makes are simply made to piss people off. He's scum, plain and simple.

I will always hold this horrible and monstrous idea that people are inherently good. I believe all people can be reason with and talked to in a civil manner. I feel that "Z" isn't trolling, he's simply very....proactive when it comes to showcasing his opinion. If he is trolling, then smile and be nice. Nothing kills a troll better the respecting its opinion.

Back the subject matter. I've noticed that every time a hoard mode pops up, it's always compared to Gears of war. The first hoard mode was Space Invaders. Why doesn't it get credit for that, like ever!