Meat eaters should have to kill for their food.

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Silver Salmu

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Humans are omnivores. Omnivores eat plant and animal matter. Not eating one or the other will mess your body up(and end up having you take pills to gain the same materials you could get by eating meat/plant matter). Basic biology, people. We've been eating meat ever since we've been around.

If you try to guilt trip us for something that's a very basic part of a natural process(the same thing repeated by other, sub-human creatures mind you) and is indeed a legitimate part of ecological maintenance(you know, the whole interspecies balance thing nature has going on despite our technological level), then you really should start school over.
 

LTlewis

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It's a good point but hardly practical. I live in England and we don't have many things to hunt here. Not unless you want an angry farmer after you. But this dose go back to primitive times. As a young hunter you had to go and kill your first boar or deer or whatever you could find to prove you where a man. We could try to bring this back, no Fast food until you have Killed a cow. Mabey get a little card to prove it. LTlewis has killed one cow plese give him a burger :)
 

TheComfyChair

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Vegetarians are like hipsters.

'meat is soooooo mainstream'

probably just the ones i've met, but i haven't met one who can't shut the hell up about it, so yes, they are very much hipsters. I don't care if you don't eat chicken, just eat your damn food and let me eat mine.

If meat eaters should kill for their food, vegeterians should grow all of theirs. Good luck staying alive considering you can't grow vitamin and supplement tablets, never mind half the foods vegeterians need to be remotely healthy in somewhere like the UK.

Also, gamers should have to build a PC before playing a game. Actually, i like that idea.

P.S. I'd quite easily kill a chicken if it meant eating more chicken :p
P.P.S. who says plants don't feel pain either? What makes chickens so special compared to those innocent plants you vegetarian monsters are murdering? Think of the seeds! For the love of god! the SEEDS!
 

Udyrfrykte

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I wish I cared, but meat is too good. I'm eating chicken today, yummie!
Seriously, chicken fillet is maybe the best thing on earth considering a few factors:
First off, it tastes good, really good.
The other, it's "healthy" (low fat, white meat).
The third, it's rather cheap.

Most good things come at a cost, I don't know any worth mentioning about chicken.
F-YEAH!

And if I had to kill a cute little chicken to continue eating meat? I would bludgeon that little cutie to a pulp within seconds, WITH MY FISTS.
 

Tim Mazzola

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DarkArk said:
Torrasque said:
Now, If you'll excuse me, I'm going to have another spicy momma burger from A&W
I realize I'm signaling you out, but what is it with the end comments of so many people saying that they're going to go off and eat some meat? Do you have that much of an inferiority complex?
... This is exactly what teebeeohh was talking about before. Seriously, being a vegetarian suddenly makes you "superior?" What the hell? You made a choice, a choice that effects nothing but YOU.

Seriously, vegetarians/vegans really need to either shut up with the whole "DON'T JUDGE ME!!!" nonsense or stop being the most pompous judgmental people on the planet. Respect is not a one-way street, kids.
 

Stalydan

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BrailleOperatic said:
I would just like to make the counter point to the argument here. IF every meat-eater should have to kill their food in order to eat it, I posit that every vegetarian should have to grow there own food in order to appreciate how much extra work it takes for them to eat their fruits and vegetables every day.
Thank you, I was about to use the same point myself.

It's highly impractical if you eat meat that you should raise your own animal to slaughter it. That's why we buy packets of meat, wear the animal is used to it's full potential by being able to be widely distributed, therefore not going to waste.
 

kuolonen

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I work at a meatfactory. I have seen how they make cows into steaks. And it makes me HUNGRY!

If I'd have the money and time to invest in hunting, I would (atleast once) kill and eat my own food. Its doesnt make sense to implement this on larger scale but I know that the deer/moose/whatever has lived a better life in the wilds than the dump meatbags that get butchered at my workplace.
 

Rhinzual26

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The Lugz said:
saying one living organism is 'higher' than another is just.. hypocritical, frankly vegetarians simply choose to see animals as living things and plants as inanimate objects and then act all high and mighty about their purity and morals
of their incorrect assumptions and blind themselves to the obvious truth:
you
cant
live
without
KILLING
or at the very least benefiting from the deaths of other beings
( ie if you forage dead animals or dead seeds or wilted plants or something )

vegetarians are misinformed, or just plain hypocritical

all you'll do is put people off their food in the meantime and it's not as healthy as it's advocates will have you believe

that said, if there were an efficient means to avoid killing things and still fill my stomach i'd do it
but eating plants isn't the way

currently there is a technology being developed to grow skin, flesh, meat or whatever you desire in a pure form without the need for harming any complex being in laboratory conditions from a single cell taken from an animal who wouldn't even notice the loss
and clone it billions of times to produce food, skin grafts, prosthesis and other bodily requirements for human use and consumption
when that technology takes off ( if it does in my lifetime )
i will surely support it, but until then there is no viable alternative

once it's fully working it will be cleaner more efficient and more effective than growing a whole cow to get food or leather you could even tailor it's genes to make it taste exactly how you want, you want a 1x1 meter square leather patch 14mm thick? sure let me plum the details in the computer to re sequence the genes.

bam, dino dna.
ups, wrong film.

putting your efforts into advancing that technology instead of trying to create 'awareness' for vegetarianism
will have far further reaching benefits for the entire human condition from burn victims to people needing heart transplants

you might well think that's not the same issue, or i'm overreacting but that's the state of play when you consider changing the world, and that's the sort of thing this thread is discussing

this actually reminds me of the bob's big picture episode on genetically modified food
( except this actually would be very genetically modified! )


ps,
the dino dna Jurassic park reference was to
the 14mm thick leather in-case anyone didn't get it.
If we killed every other animal on Earth for our own food, and with over 6 billion people doing that every day for every meal, it'd be hell on the entire ecosystem. Not to mention with every other animal on Earth killed off, the last remaining animal group will start resorting to wide-scale cannibalism.

Take a look at any serial killer who was a cannibal, they killed their own meal. Meat's meat, no matter the source. A Vegan is just a big bag of meat that doesn't eat meat.
 

Alexlion

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You should grow your own food, make your own house etc blah blah blah.
Ive killed a fish so i guess that counts but tbh it wasn't any sort of big deal, obviously as others have stated its impractical but mainly who cares? (Well obviously you but) when it comes down to it most animals bred for slaughter are well cared for fed and ignorant of their fate, honestly id much rather that than being frightened cold and running for my life on an empty stomach and when the ravenous dog catches me and rips me apart in a slow death.

Every human being has the capacity to kill to eat its part of our biological make-up if it wasn't we wouldn't be here now, sure it would solve the ignorance problem but if people want to go through life without having to gut an animal and deal with their entrails that's fine its a luxury of civilized society. In the end you arnt saving or changing what is happening to the animals remains in the end its just semantics.

So yeah people dont think about where their food comes from much but you can say the same about vegetarians and their "organic" food and the impact that has on the environment, or the sportsman who doesn't think about the sweat shop where his trainers csme from and pritty much every one who owns a car burning fossil fuels thinking about the environmental impact or their in-sustainability.
People are people and we are dumb and what little intelligence we do have comes from our ancestors hunting and scavenging (not necessarily killing it themselves) meat which gave us sufficient protein to develop large brains so maybe on this case you can cut em a break :p?
 

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Oh look, another thinly veiled appeal to emotion made by a hypocritical Vegetarian, How original.

No, meat eaters should not have to jump through hoops just because you have perched yourself upon some Tofu-Ivory-tower and decided that people who don't agree with your life choice should be forced to go through an unpleasant experience just to please you.

I mean, you don't hear environmentalists saying "If you want to use Electricity from a power-grid that uses fossil fuels, you should have to spend a week in a coal mine/spend a day breathing toxic fumes!", and thats essentially what you're asking - "You have to earn the thing I disapprove of by suffering"

What you want, and is plain for the world to see, is people to suffer. You want them to Do what you say, or suffer. A typical, Blind, fascist, Vegetarian.
 

HerrBobo

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Glass Joe the Champ said:
No bother! I'm so down for killing an animal with my bare hands! I think I'd start with a duck, and as I get better work my way up to some sort of a large cat.

I have canine teeth and my eyes are at the front; I am a predator.

Animals exist, only at my pleasure.
 

chstens

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I have beheaded and skinned 4 chickens and a rabbit. Then I BBQ'd the rabbit and one chicken and made a delicious stew over the campfire. The other three chickesn I gave away to another group, who also proceeded to eat their food.

I've described the event down low, for people who don't want to know how it's done, don't read it.

The process is very humane. First you knock the animal unconscious with the butt end of the axe, then you chop the head off. If done like this, they won't feel a thing. The rabbit was strange, however. It was clear that it was more intelligent than the chicken. When I was about to knock it unconscious, it noticed that it wasn't struggeling. It had surrendered. Accepted its fate, the whole thing was rather moving. And you can't chop off the head of a rabbit directly with an axe, it's got a much thicker neck. You need to cut it off with a knife.
 

CrazyGirl17

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Um... so as a meat eater, I have to kill an animal for food once? No offense, but I'm a bit too squeamish to do so. Hell, I can't even look at live crabs knowing I'm going to eat them...

But hey, if you want to be a vegetarian, that's your business.
 

Killclaw Kilrathi

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Glass Joe the Champ said:
While it's not practical in modern times to slaughter your evening meal every day, everyone who eats meat should kill for their food at least once. If you can bring yourself to kill for food, then you have a stronger will than I do, and I have (almost) no problem with you eating meat. If you refuse to kill a cow, but demand 1$ Jr. Double Cheeseburgers, you're a hypocrite in denial, and I have no respect for you.
Excuse me, quick question. Why should I care if you respect me? Can I turn in your respect for cash prizes or something? Do I unlock an achievement on Steam? Rest assured that I don't respect you either, I can understand vegans and vegetarians but frankly I think the ones who make threads like this are pompous, self-righteous egomaniacs.

I don't want to kill my own food because I pay someone else to do it, as part of the price of my burger or other meat product. I know full well where meat comes from, everyone does. We're not idiots you know, we all know what a slaughterhouse is. Every time I eat a burger I understand I'm eating the cooked meat off of some animal that died to sustain me and everyone else its meat went to, and you know what? It doesn't make me enjoy the burger any less.
 

Aedrial

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I'll start killing my meat when vegetarians stop complaining about me eating meat.