Meat eaters should have to kill for their food.

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dyre

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Sure, I'll kill a cow if you want me to. Just bring one to my house, hand me the gun, then clean up the mess when I'm done...

Seriously, I highly doubt anyone who eats animals would have a problem killing animals. It's just inconvenient. So your argument seems more like "meat eaters should pointlessly inconvenience themselves because I want them to."

So, the target of your argument, this crowd of imaginary meat-eaters who say they do it because they're omnivores, but are afraid to kill animals themselves and would rather just shy away from the subject of where their steak came from? It's a crowd of straw men.
 

KeyMaster45

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Necromancer Jim said:
You live in a house, you should build one at least once.
I've built several in minecraft...does that count?

You use a computer, you should assemble one at least once.
Ooo! I did that once, it died six months later after the processor finally died from heat damage due to me not installing it properly.

You live on a planet. You should ascend to godhood and create one. At least once.
Does Spore count, or maybe several failed sessions of Sim City?

OT: I agree with the OP in the sense that I think everyone should at least have the basic knowledge for killing and preparing your own meat. Not because of some "You should see what you're doing to these poor animals" ideal but because it's something that could come in handy when civilization hits yon proverbial fan.
 

loc978

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Having both grown my own vegetables and killed my own meat within my lifetime (and helped build a few houses, and rebuilt a bunch of cars, and sewed at least one outfit...), I support the sentiments on both sides of this thread. Anything you depend on to live, you should figure out how to do yourself, at least the rudiments of it.

[sub][sub][sub]Gorram city folk anyway...[/sub][/sub][/sub]
 

Kingpopadopalus

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OP: I'm ok with this, gimme a gun and point me to the nearest deer, I need to make hot sticks for the party tomorrow, Sorry Bambi you're gonna lose a daddy.

I've already caught and cooked fish, I have grown my own veggies.
 

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I love the stupidity in the thread! The OP was not the best written one but I understood what he was trying to get across, even if I cannot reiterate in my own words, I understood it.
 

SwagLordYoloson

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Where do you get off?

Everything any human does from birth involves killing countless random things, bugs, animals, people who are poor. The only way to not, is to not exist.
 

Da Orky Man

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Glass Joe the Champ said:
I do indeed eat meat, and actually agree with you. I have killed what became my next meal, including rabbits, chickens and a sheep.
Keep it up.
 

EbonBehelit

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It's just a matter of respecting the life that is taken to keep us alive.

It would be impractical to do this obviously, but I seriously despise the idea of people eating meat without the spine to be able to kill an animal for it. I eat meat every day btw.
 

iLikeHippos

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In this day and age, it's hardly necessary to realize the implications behind the daily actions of every-day living, less your job includes it. Even when your job revolves around the subject, you hardly need to learn anything more but your job. If you call out to an expert of electronics, he wouldn't be able to build you a TV, but he certainly would be able to recommend the best TV there is. (otherwise I know a TV expert that really chickened out on me)
Anything else but what is necessary to know is absolutely trivial.
Not that killing one animal would change much though. The real manly men would succeed triumphantly with flying colours, and the same with the bad-ass ladies out there. If some are too squeamish, than I suppose you're right, they should change lifestyles. It ain' for the faint hearteeed!
 

somonels

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What you should have done is:
Glass Joe the Champ said:
[HEADING=1] WARNING: This is pretty much gonna be one of those self righteous, one sided, poorly written rants that have been done before, so feel free to ignore this and move on.[/HEADING]
Let me start by saying that I was raised a vegetarian and have been a vegan for a few years, but what confuses a lot of people is that I'm not really anti-hunting. In fact, I respect those who hunt and kill animals for food far more than the average McDonald's customer. The reason for this is because the hunter at least understands the implications of his meal.

Many pro-meat advocates say that humans are omnivores and eating animals is part of the "circle of life", and I agree with this to an extent. The problem with this is that in the industrial age, we don't raise or prey on animals as much as we manufacture them. I know a lot of (usually female) people who say they'd never kill a chicken or a cow, yet they eat meat regularly. This is because they don't think of their burgers or chicken sandwiches as animals that were killed; instead, they think of them as delicious, cheap food that might have involved an animal at some point, "but it's already dead, so it's best not to think about it."

While it's not practical in modern times to slaughter your evening meal every day, everyone who eats meat should kill for their food at least once. If you can bring yourself to kill for food, then you have a stronger will than I do, and I have (almost) no problem with you eating meat. If you refuse to kill a cow, but demand 1$ Jr. Double Cheeseburgers, you're a hypocrite in denial, and I have no respect for you.

TL;DR: An animal was killed for you to have that sandwich, learn what it means to kill an animal.

EDIT: Just to clarify on a few things:

I said meat eaters should kill an animal at least once. That's my personal opinion; you can do whatever you want, not trying to force you to do anything.

The straw argument of "You should make an x before you use one." is ridiculous. We're talking about a process that involves the voluntary killing of something else, it's a bit different from wood carving/computer assembly ect... As far the "you should grow a plant before you eat one" argument goes: plants lack a nervous system and brain, so it's not really harming a plant to farm one, but for the record, I do have a decent sized vegetable garden in my backyard if it's any consolation.

It is true that every purchasing decision we make has implications we never see. Someone buys a pair of Nike sneakers, and they might have been made at a sweat shop that uses child labor; they just don't know or don't think about it. As a society, we need to learn more about the source of every product we buy, and make well informed purchasing decisions accordingly. I'm just arguing about the meat industry at the moment.

At the very least, you can learn about how animals are killed in factories via internet. It's not pretty, to say the least.
gabe12301 said:
you wan't me to kill my food? fine. i'll make a trick shot montage with these
Ooh, that looks nice. Looking forward to the video.
 

Volafortis

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All I can say is this: I live in Northern Minnesota, where it's basically a yearly ritual for half of the populace to go hunt and kill deer for venison. I may not do it now, but I've done it with my father and uncle before when I was younger.

I know what it is to kill for food, and if you'd rather we hunted species into extinction, rather than raising cattle for a controlled food source, all I can say is that you're sounding like the one not appreciating life, here.
 

Ron Cuthbert

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I respect the animals I eat, I'm thankful for their role in the Circle of Life.

And while I don't kill them myself what I do, do (heh heh doodoo) is work. My labour becomes cash, that cash becomes meat, that meat was once labour, labour from a butcher. So in a roundabout way, I do kill my own meat.