Metal Gear and the Xbox 360...what's the big deal?
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I guess I'll be the one to point this out...
Metal Gear has already been tried on the X-Box console. MGS2, anyone? It was an epic failure. Kojima Productions, unlike many dev teams, tends to learn form past mistakes. It is unlikely that they will try an x-box release of Metal Gear again.
*edit* right. Yog beat me to it by about 2 seconds. Well done and spot on. (though it was, in fact MGS2: Sons of Liberty and not MGS3: Snake Eater which was ported.
Metal Gear has already been tried on the X-Box console. MGS2, anyone? It was an epic failure. Kojima Productions, unlike many dev teams, tends to learn form past mistakes. It is unlikely that they will try an x-box release of Metal Gear again.
*edit* right. Yog beat me to it by about 2 seconds. Well done and spot on. (though it was, in fact MGS2: Sons of Liberty and not MGS3: Snake Eater which was ported.
It's just a ideological thing.
You see, gamers tend to defend one console in a display of tribalism that is quite sad. When a game that belong exclusively to one tribe begins to appear in another, the natives flip their shit out.
Gamers without a warped sense of community belonging to their console will see this as a good thing. The more platforms a game is on, the more potential for profit which will lead to bigger budgets in the future and better production quality on the next game.
You see, gamers tend to defend one console in a display of tribalism that is quite sad. When a game that belong exclusively to one tribe begins to appear in another, the natives flip their shit out.
Gamers without a warped sense of community belonging to their console will see this as a good thing. The more platforms a game is on, the more potential for profit which will lead to bigger budgets in the future and better production quality on the next game.
...and of course, they ported Metal Gear Solid to the Gamecube. Granted, that was a while ago but I'm pretty sure the world didn't end.songnar said:
Can someone tell me how this means 360?
What, cause it's in green? This can't just be Metal Gear Acid 3?
And for anyone who says that circle symbol looks like the 360 ring (of death), guess what, I see and touch that symbol every single time I turn on my PS3...
What, cause it's in green? This can't just be Metal Gear Acid 3?
And for anyone who says that circle symbol looks like the 360 ring (of death), guess what, I see and touch that symbol every single time I turn on my PS3...
Y'know, I think I'm going to second that. The consoles are a secondary thing. If MGS4 had come out on the 360 instead of the PS3, I'd own a 360. If you're going to take the best series in the world and try to put it on the X-Box console, it had better darned well be done right.Syphonz said:
thanks, i caught it... had the right sub-title, but wrong number...sma_warrior said:
it doesn't. period... just more dreaming from xbox fanboys... i think it almost certainly indicates a new MG:AC!D, possibly for the i-phone or the DSi...sma_warrior said:
Is it really an official trailer. Or just some punk who made a video and stick Konami's name on it.
I'll add a few more cents to the pool of thoughts here.
I'd like to address the question in the title "What's the big deal?"
The big deal is that this is METAL GEAR we're talking about. A game which has been alive longer than me and which has been incredibly successful. Metal Gear was a game which changed the way that people looked at stealth in games, in fact, it can be called the first successful stealth game if we dismiss the original Wolfenstein which I suspect we can. That, my friend, is the big deal. This is real gaming history in the works.
I'd like to address the question in the title "What's the big deal?"
The big deal is that this is METAL GEAR we're talking about. A game which has been alive longer than me and which has been incredibly successful. Metal Gear was a game which changed the way that people looked at stealth in games, in fact, it can be called the first successful stealth game if we dismiss the original Wolfenstein which I suspect we can. That, my friend, is the big deal. This is real gaming history in the works.
Although in general multiplatform releases are a good thing, exclusives are what truly keep the industry going. Imagine if there were no exclusives, then quickly one of two competing hypothetical consoles would not sell because their hardware became apparent as the lesser of the two. Since there is no difference in software, the obvious choice would die off, and most likely pretty quickly.
Then with no opponent, creativity and competition will stifle. This is exactly why monopolies are very bad, and exclusives are very good. In fact this is happening with the Wii right now. The Wii has no competitor on its level, and poor games by any Joe Schmo developer have flooded into the Wii's library.
Additionally, timed exclusives are also a bad thing. MGS4, and other PS3 exclusives, have sold PS3s without question. For many people, the only reason they bought a PS3 could very realistically have been to play only one or two exclusive games. If within the life cycle of that console, its exclusives go multiplatform, then you have been duped into making a poor investment (if exclusives were an important part of your decision, which they generally are).
In that sense, PS3 owners have a very justifiable complaint when previously exclusive games go multiplatform, because they could have (and maybe would have) waited and bought it for another console for whatever reason (cost, hardware preference, space saving, etc). No one is offering a refund for a PS3 if MGS4 goes to the 360, and if a business announces that this will never happen, but then it DOES - this bad business will likely kill consumer confidence and act as the industry shooting itself in the foot by creating a consumer culture of mistrust and deal hunting. Consumers then won't believe in your company or product, and will only buy it once you have lost so much money on them that they sell for rock bottom prices. Not out of "fanboyism" or spite, but because they've been taught that their traditional consumer culture is dated and unrewarded.
Then with no opponent, creativity and competition will stifle. This is exactly why monopolies are very bad, and exclusives are very good. In fact this is happening with the Wii right now. The Wii has no competitor on its level, and poor games by any Joe Schmo developer have flooded into the Wii's library.
Additionally, timed exclusives are also a bad thing. MGS4, and other PS3 exclusives, have sold PS3s without question. For many people, the only reason they bought a PS3 could very realistically have been to play only one or two exclusive games. If within the life cycle of that console, its exclusives go multiplatform, then you have been duped into making a poor investment (if exclusives were an important part of your decision, which they generally are).
In that sense, PS3 owners have a very justifiable complaint when previously exclusive games go multiplatform, because they could have (and maybe would have) waited and bought it for another console for whatever reason (cost, hardware preference, space saving, etc). No one is offering a refund for a PS3 if MGS4 goes to the 360, and if a business announces that this will never happen, but then it DOES - this bad business will likely kill consumer confidence and act as the industry shooting itself in the foot by creating a consumer culture of mistrust and deal hunting. Consumers then won't believe in your company or product, and will only buy it once you have lost so much money on them that they sell for rock bottom prices. Not out of "fanboyism" or spite, but because they've been taught that their traditional consumer culture is dated and unrewarded.
No, it just means that a console would be judged on other factors, such as online services and first-party titles released. I can imagine that if exclusive third-party titles fall apart, then Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony will have to really up their efforts on first-party titles.DanRSL said: