Meth.

[Oinodaemon]

srry dude, that's just retarded...if we gave people the responsibility of choosing for themselves they would start raping and murdering wildly. maybe not everyone is stupid, but the vast majority of people are utterly hopeless. Meth is bad because people who use it habitually inevitably end up fucking other people over to get their fix. I've seen it more than once. In my opinion, anything is ok until someone else gets hurt by it. Meth numbs people, they stop caring about others, and they end up hurting people who love them. YOU are more than welcome to use meth, but the second you steal something from me to feed your addiction, I am going to shoot you. (i dont literally mean YOU, but anybody doing drugs)

 

[Oinodaemon]

Were you high (on meth) when you wrote this

no, a little stoned, maybe...

 

[Oinodaemon]

Um... Has anyone in this thread even tried meth, or do you all just watch "intervention" and "faces of meth" all day? Well guess what kiddies, I've tried it, and it ain't that bad. Didn't get hooked, didn't claw my eyeballs out, and actually had a stellar time! Maybe someone with an addictive personality would get hooked, but some of us can just do it and have some fun with minimal harm done to our bodies, and people like me don;t like being punished for some idiot that can't stop using.

Thank you so much, it's a breath of fresh air to see someone looking at drugs with an attitude other then 'BAN THEM BAN THEM BAN THEM'. Just as I said in the 'Should Obama legalize it' thread about marijuana, perhaps governments should stop treating us like children and give us the responsibility to know when to draw the line.

If you don't like drugs, that's fine, don't take them, but those of us that do would prefer that you let us do them in peace.

srry dude, that's just retarded...if we gave people the responsibility of choosing for themselves they would start raping and murdering wildly. maybe not everyone is stupid, but the vast majority of people are utterly hopeless. Meth is bad because people who use it habitually inevitably end up fucking other people over to get their fix. I've seen it more than once. In my opinion, anything is ok until someone else gets hurt by it. Meth numbs people, they stop caring about others, and they end up hurting people who love them. YOU are more than welcome to use meth, but the second you steal something from me to feed your addiction, I am going to shoot you. (i dont literally mean YOU, but anybody doing drugs)

 

[Turtleboy1017]

Lets start with Marijuana, then move on to heroin, then coke, then FINALLY meth.

So no it should not be.

 

[Jagers1994]

I don't think the legality of any drug is stopping people from taking the drug.

Noone's sitting there thinking "I'd really love to start taking heroin, but I'd hate to go to jail, so I won't."

Drug laws push people that are in bad places in their life further into the gutter, sending them into downward spiral.

What we need to do is learn all about drugs, from a young age - no propaganda, no lies - most drugs are bad enough that you don't need to lie to your kids to keep them from wanting to do them.

Rock on!!! So damn true.

 

[Jaedon]

If I ever tried it I'd be all paranoid about Dog the bounty hunter coming after me brah!

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

For clinical, and hospital use.. Yes. Army too, if needed.

 

[samsprinkle]

Yes.
Let's legalize meth.
Oh wait, my friend Mr. Google has something to add to the conversation!

Admittedly, that could just be propoganda. I've never known a meth junkie.
But they use the word junkie for a reason.

Oh rest assured. Meth is FAR worse than those pics suggest...I personally know some meth addicts

 

[samsprinkle]

Lets start with Marijuana, then move on to heroin, then coke, then FINALLY meth.

So no it should not be.

Don't even put pot in the same category man. It's not even bad for you.

 

[Fingerprint]

Jebena seljačino.

I know the first word, whats the second?

(I know because I work with some Poles, just in case you were wondering.)

 

[Oinodaemon]

Um... Has anyone in this thread even tried meth, or do you all just watch "intervention" and "faces of meth" all day? Well guess what kiddies, I've tried it, and it ain't that bad. Didn't get hooked, didn't claw my eyeballs out, and actually had a stellar time! Maybe someone with an addictive personality would get hooked, but some of us can just do it and have some fun with minimal harm done to our bodies, and people like me don;t like being punished for some idiot that can't stop using.

Thank you so much, it's a breath of fresh air to see someone looking at drugs with an attitude other then 'BAN THEM BAN THEM BAN THEM'. Just as I said in the 'Should Obama legalize it' thread about marijuana, perhaps governments should stop treating us like children and give us the responsibility to know when to draw the line.

If you don't like drugs, that's fine, don't take them, but those of us that do would prefer that you let us do them in peace.

srry dude, that's just retarded...if we gave people the responsibility of choosing for themselves they would start raping and murdering wildly. maybe not everyone is stupid, but the vast majority of people are utterly hopeless. Meth is bad because people who use it habitually inevitably end up fucking other people over to get their fix. I've seen it more than once. In my opinion, anything is ok until someone else gets hurt by it. Meth numbs people, they stop caring about others, and they end up hurting people who love them. YOU are more than welcome to use meth, but the second you steal something from me to feed your addiction, I am going to shoot you. (i dont literally mean YOU, but anybody doing drugs)

I have no problem with punishment for people who directly harm or steal from others, but if I was to, say, create meth with a fourth-year chemistry student in university and then use it, have a little fun, but break no laws (except the drug ones), develop no addiction and not hurt anyone, what's the harm? Well big surprise, I've done this. Self-control, I have always said, is the key. I just find it somewhat offense that the government deems it their right to tell me what I can do with my own body.

Trust me, if a junkie was trying to rob me, I'd respond violently as well.

I agree with you. Drugs are fine as long as no one is harmed but the person doing them. It's unfortunate that most people don't have that kind of self-control.

And the government are a bunch of poppycock fuck-heads who probably don't really know what's going on either. Maybe the Rockefellers or the Rothschild's might...Fact being, the people don't really run America anymore. We are living in a dictatorship in which they have fooled us into believing we still have rights. but I'm done bitching for now...

 

[munkyforce]

What are the costs and impacts meth has on society and schould it be legalized?

Meth is a pretty nasty drug. However I say legalize it regardless because the cost of prohibition is massively higher than any potential health costs related to the drug.

 

[Zykon TheLich]

Just as an observation/question, I've always wondered why meth has apparently become such a problem in the US but the predicted UK "epidemic" never arrived. We've got loads of crack and heroin but meth is virtually unheard of.

Lack of space to cook it up? Although we make huge amounts of amphetamine type drugs already and the basic ingredients and processes are pretty similar. Maybe the chemists have enough lucrative amphet type businesses going on to bother blowing themselves up with failed reductive alkylation for a drug that they can't sell for much and doesn't have a market.
It's rep as a "trailer trash" drug? Or just that it's seen as 'super speed' that really fucks you up and speed isn't that great anyway so why bother? Crack and cheap heroin got the hard drug market sewn up? An abundance of very cheap amphetamine type drugs?
All of the above? Have I just answered my own question?

That's a few thoughs from the British side at least, any rebel colonial scum er I mean any of our American friends got any thoughts on the subject?

 

[Ghost]

Um... Has anyone in this thread even tried meth, or do you all just watch "intervention" and "faces of meth" all day?... Didn't get hooked, didn't claw my eyeballs out, and actually had a stellar time! Maybe someone with an addictive personality would get hooked

i can see where you're coming from, but say someone takes it once just to try it or to have fun, with this addiction serious harm could be done.

now say the person who took it has a hard time soon after, ie the death of a relative or being sacked form their job, they'll remember how elevated and good they felt after taking this shit and be prone to do it again.