Misconceptions about PC gaming.

[TheKbob]

I did quit on the first skirmish. I'm gonna keep trying as that is one game that I feel bad about because I know I would love it. It's not like I don't understand it like Fallout n such or it's too old... no this is rather I just get my ass kicked and I suck, lol.

I just hate you start with a crappy pistol, unless you can get a better gun before you get into that fight. I really want to see the open wasteland, a kind of Pre-Fallout 3 funfest

Bastards I bought stalker on steam and found out my graphics card doesn't support 1.1 pixel shader.

OUCHIES! Well, you can always... upgrade *evil grin*

*opens coat*

Whadda-yah-buyin?

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

I did quit on the first skirmish. I'm gonna keep trying as that is one game that I feel bad about because I know I would love it. It's not like I don't understand it like Fallout n such or it's too old... no this is rather I just get my ass kicked and I suck, lol.

I just hate you start with a crappy pistol, unless you can get a better gun before you get into that fight. I really want to see the open wasteland, a kind of Pre-Fallout 3 funfest

Bastards I bought stalker on steam and found out my graphics card doesn't support 1.1 pixel shader.

OUCHIES! Well, you can always... upgrade *evil grin*

*opens coat*

Whadda-yah-buyin?

A new computer that can put crysis on high(with framerate issues of course.) for under 800$.

 

[TheKbob]

Determining on the resolution, I could get you pretty damned close to that.

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

Determining on the resolution, I could get you pretty damned close to that.

Already got it going on the second page off the off-topic dicussion, Might not even upgrade my flatscreen dell so I can max out every game for the next year most likely..

 

[clarinetJWD]

I just succumbed to my temptation. From newegg, for 284 dollars.

I just bought a 9800GX2.

It better hurry and get here soon, I've an urge to play Mass Effect at 1920x1080.

Anyone have this card? Any experiences I should know about? I've checked out all the benchmarks and reviews and it holds up pretty well. And for 284 it seems a steal.

Hope your CPU stacks up as well! From what I can tell, the 9600 is more than enough GPU power for Mass Effect, but it's very CPU intensive. My guess is that because the 360 has roughly 10GHz worth of additive processing power (yes I know it doesn't really work that way), BioWare optimized it for high processor spec, low graphics card...and didn't change that too much for the PC version.

My CPU (c2d e6550, 2.33Ghz) was pinned at 100% both cores the entire time playing, giving my audio pops and occasional bad framerate...that being said, it was still a higher framerate than the 360 version *cough*

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

I just succumbed to my temptation. From newegg, for 284 dollars.

I just bought a 9800GX2.

It better hurry and get here soon, I've an urge to play Mass Effect at 1920x1080.

Anyone have this card? Any experiences I should know about? I've checked out all the benchmarks and reviews and it holds up pretty well. And for 284 it seems a steal.

Hope your CPU stacks up as well! From what I can tell, the 9600 is more than enough GPU power for Mass Effect, but it's very CPU intensive. My guess is that because the 360 has roughly 10GHz worth of additive processing power (yes I know it doesn't really work that way), BioWare optimized it for high processor spec, low graphics card...and didn't change that too much for the PC version.

My CPU (c2d e6550, 2.33Ghz) was pinned at 100% both cores the entire time playing, giving my audio pops and occasional bad framerate...that being said, it was still a higher framerate than the 360 version *cough*

Cause the 360 is a peice of shit compaped to the ps3 which is a peice of shit compared to a toped out pc?

 

[Aries_Split]

I just succumbed to my temptation. From newegg, for 284 dollars.

I just bought a 9800GX2.

It better hurry and get here soon, I've an urge to play Mass Effect at 1920x1080.

Anyone have this card? Any experiences I should know about? I've checked out all the benchmarks and reviews and it holds up pretty well. And for 284 it seems a steal.

Hope your CPU stacks up as well! From what I can tell, the 9600 is more than enough GPU power for Mass Effect, but it's very CPU intensive. My guess is that because the 360 has roughly 10GHz worth of additive processing power (yes I know it doesn't really work that way), BioWare optimized it for high processor spec, low graphics card...and didn't change that too much for the PC version.

My CPU (c2d e6550, 2.33Ghz) was pinned at 100% both cores the entire time playing, giving my audio pops and occasional bad framerate...that being said, it was still a higher framerate than the 360 version *cough*

Cause the ps3 is a peice of shit compaped to the ps3 which is a peice of shit compared to a toped out pc?

no, the ps3 is technologically greater than the 360 in every aspect, what would give you the idea it's a piece of shit?

and I'm running the 45nm wolfdale 3.0ghz, I've overclocked it to 4.2ghz easily too.

it should fucking DEVOUR mass effect

I love CPU intensive games, because it gives my CPU something to do.

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

I just succumbed to my temptation. From newegg, for 284 dollars.

I just bought a 9800GX2.

It better hurry and get here soon, I've an urge to play Mass Effect at 1920x1080.

Anyone have this card? Any experiences I should know about? I've checked out all the benchmarks and reviews and it holds up pretty well. And for 284 it seems a steal.

Hope your CPU stacks up as well! From what I can tell, the 9600 is more than enough GPU power for Mass Effect, but it's very CPU intensive. My guess is that because the 360 has roughly 10GHz worth of additive processing power (yes I know it doesn't really work that way), BioWare optimized it for high processor spec, low graphics card...and didn't change that too much for the PC version.

My CPU (c2d e6550, 2.33Ghz) was pinned at 100% both cores the entire time playing, giving my audio pops and occasional bad framerate...that being said, it was still a higher framerate than the 360 version *cough*

Cause the ps3 is a peice of shit compaped to the ps3 which is a peice of shit compared to a toped out pc?

no, the ps3 is technologically greater than the 360 in every aspect, what would give you the idea it's a piece of shit?

and I'm running the 45nm wolfdale 3.0ghz, I've overclocked it to 4.2ghz easily too.

it should fucking DEVOUR mass effect

I love CPU intensive games, because it gives my CPU something to do.

Yeah thats what I said right? The 360 is like the casually hardcore console fitting the niche bewteen hardcore, and casual nicely for those frat boys.

 

[Aries_Split]

reread your sentence one more time bullet.

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

reread your sentence one more time bullet.

Eh, It happens.

 

[Jumplion]

NO! Let's not turn this into the hopeless PS3 vs. 360 war.

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

NO! Let's not turn this into the hopeless PS3 vs. 360 war.

Eh, the ps3 would win cause they don't have a life span thats random..

 

[clarinetJWD]

...and I'm running the 45nm wolfdale 3.0ghz, I've overclocked it to 4.2ghz easily too.

it should fucking DEVOUR mass effect

I love CPU intensive games, because it gives my CPU something to do.

Niice... I'm waiting to get hired full time, where my company gives you $500 for use on Gaming. Q9450, here I come!

 

[Clain]

i did a full upgrade (CPU, RAM, Mobo and Graphics card) on my setup a 6 weeks ago

so owned a 9800 GX2 for over a month now and so far it has never failed to play a game

for those that are using or thinking about getting this card (or any other duel GPU settups) here are a few things i wish to clarify

1st of all for those that may be unaware it is a duel gpu card... one on either side with a copper heatsink (or water cooling) in the center... as such it is difficult to pull apart (without damaging it) and a ***** to clean properly

2nd the card does not have 1gb vram and it is not set at 512 bits
it is infact 2x512mb (per gpu with no ability to share) and at 256 bits each (but marketers will try anything to make it look good)

3rd it does produce a lot of heat and will generally idle at 60 - 65 C... under stress 65 - 85 C (dependant on cooling)...

4th this card does beat the new gtx280 in performance but it has its dissadvantages being a duel gpu setup

5th this card is being pushed into the background and in a couple of months may dissappear intirely (nVidia should still be updating the drivers though)

6th when realeased no company was allowed to realease variants or modified versions of the 9800 GX2 until a month had passed (all cards where exactly the same bar the stickers)

7th this was the first card that can play crysis at 1600x1200 on full with a high fps

and if i decide to learn CUDA (a variant of C that uses the gpu to proccess) i will have something as powerful as a small super computer (4 of these hooked together beats a 512 farm and there is a group of people trying to stick 8 of these beasts into one system)

also kbob when ur looking at the reviews for the phenom cpu just note that almost all of them are done the stupid way, using setups that will not give you high performance

amd quads (phenom proccessors) are true duel cores and have been made for multi-tasking, multi-threading and x64 programs... where as the intel quads are just two duel core slapped together, as such they are better at single core tests (which is the only test reviewers seem to be interested in) but fail where amd leads

another thing to note is that amd have designed there sysetems to work well with eachother (where as intel havnt), so combining an AMD cpu and chipset (and ati graphics card if you want) vastly improves performance

id recommend using the phenom in conjunction with a 790fx chipset, but if u want to get an sli base then stick to intel

 

[Aries_Split]

Lots and lots of words

Aware of all of that, but I avoid AMD like the plague. I love a good tech debate though

My 8800GTS (G92) handled Crysis on high at 1280x1050 fairly well. Chugged during the heavy parts, but it got through it good.

Secondly, how well does Phenom Overclock? Intel has proven to be amazing overclockers.

 

[TheKbob]

Good read, and yah I understand about Phenoms. This current PC was a learning tool. I didn't know much about PC building, but within 18 months, I would say I have come along quite a bit. I'm going to use this as an upgrade machine until the 8800GT SLI finally fails to produce quality gaming graphics and/or when a single card solution can totally trounce them and be less than $300~250,... so that's still a few years off since Im still considered toe to toe with GX2 and 280 for some games and processes.

I'm very pleased with what I have and it's good to hear that AMD is still plugging away. I went with them because the AMD 6000+ compared to the e6600 which barely had any real gaming performance over it (it beat out in other benches, but w/e, this is a gaming rig) and the 6000+ was cheaper and in the price range. The SLI board was also cheaper than the Intel counterpart. I felt I made a good decision

I <3 my PC, even if it is in the most popular case around and I have an odd mash-up of different brands. It's unique to me in it's own not so unique way

 

[clarinetJWD]

Lots and lots of words

Aware of all of that, but I avoid AMD like the plague. I love a good tech debate though

My 8800GTS (G92) handled Crysis on high at 1280x1050 fairly well. Chugged during the heavy parts, but it got through it good.

Secondly, how well does Phenom Overclock? Intel has proven to be amazing overclockers.

I wish everyone would stop going on about Crysis, it doesn't deserve to be talked about tbh. The game runs like an ass on whatever spec rig you have! AMD and Nvidia always have ups and downs and at the moment Ati is still on a bit of a downer. If you have no bias to any company and just go with the fastest but best priced you can get at the time then you can't go wrong.

People will keep going on about Crysis regardless of your feelings towards the game. It's currently the high water mark for graphics, and as good a benchmark as any. It's also easily in my top 5 games of all time spots, so just because you don't like it doesn't make it not worth talking about.

 

[TheKbob]

Oh, for the record, I hate Crysis as a benchmark cause it still makes my PC a sad panda, but as a game, I LOVE IT. It's a great game that really does adapt to any playstyle. I love playing it the 2nd time, knowing what is coming, and making even BIGGER explosions. Nothing like throwing C4 on a jeep, ramping it into a building, cloaking out the back, waiting for the enemies to investi*BOOOOOOOOOM*


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[Yamikotai]

Don't want to be the downer, friend, but you are displaying a few misconceptions as well...
...Jumping from 6--->9 series means you should really inspect your hardware before doing that because it's been several years in between.

Just here to help Ask questions if need be.

Sir (ma'am?), you've completely convinced me. I'll save up for either the 8600GT 1GB (best price I found was less than £50 inc. shipping (£15 less than the 9500) or the 9800GT (yes, not 8800) 512MB for about £100 if I can get my parents to chip in (which I probably can). Or I can get the 8800GT 512 for exactly the same price (from the same website, strangely); which should I go for? I'm not absolutely sure if one's actually a higher spec than the other.
Also since my cpu sucks am I able to compensate using the gpu?

Also I'm going to stalk you for the rest of my or your life asking you questions about what I should get If I ask you anything else I'll do it via PM so as not to spam this thread (which has gone completely off topic).

Also also, yes my mobo supports CPIe.