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Moonlight Butterfly said:
I'd like to see more male ponies, I mean when I was little all my friends weren't girls. It seems a bit weird that they are so lacking.

Maybe even one central male character would help.
So Spike has a vagina? Huh. Who knew.

O.T:My main gripe is that no one knows who the 6 ponies who saved Equestria(Twice!) are. That's just...silly.
 

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Robert632 said:
Moonlight Butterfly said:
I'd like to see more male ponies, I mean when I was little all my friends weren't girls. It seems a bit weird that they are so lacking.

Maybe even one central male character would help.
So Spike has a vagina? Huh. Who knew.

O.T:My main gripe is that no one knows who the 6 ponies who saved Equestria(Twice!) are. That's just...silly.
I said ponies! Not dragons :p
 

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Moonlight Butterfly said:
Robert632 said:
Moonlight Butterfly said:
I'd like to see more male ponies, I mean when I was little all my friends weren't girls. It seems a bit weird that they are so lacking.

Maybe even one central male character would help.
So Spike has a vagina? Huh. Who knew.

O.T:My main gripe is that no one knows who the 6 ponies who saved Equestria(Twice!) are. That's just...silly.
I said ponies! Not dragons :p
That bit I just bolded at the end is why I said that. Plus I thought it'd be a silly thing to make Spike have a vagina. Maybe revealed when he gets pregnant. And they spend an episode trying to find the father.
 

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My only peeve is on how the fucking Elements of Harmony decide to punish the villains. With Luna/NightmareMoon, they purified her. Or something to that effect. With Discord, just straight up turns him to stone for eternity. Twice. And he's hinted that he was conscious the entire time.

Why? Why did Nightmare Moon, who wanted to bring eternal fucking night by getting rid of the sun, get purified. But Discord, the spirit of disharmony and chaos, who just wanted to have fun using his god-like powers, get turned to stone? Why not purify him? Is it because Luna still maybe had some good in her? Then why not just get rid of Discord's power?...

Meh, I'm gonna have to invoke either the 'Good is Not Nice', or the 'Light is Not Good' trope.
Well, the "fun" that Discord was trying to have involved brainwashing and torturing people for the rest of eternity for his own amusement, so I think that turning him to stone was more than justified. And on that note, the Elements purified Luna because she was corrupted into Nightmare Moon: she was good to begin with and turned evil, so it was possible to revert her to her original form. Discord has no good side or nice alter-ego: he's the living embodiment of chaos and disharmony. He is literally incapable of understanding or perceiving good because he is the physical representation of their exact opposites, so there would be no way of turning him into a good guy like they did with Luna.
 

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Feeling Pinkie Keen. Hated that episode. Demonized the scientific process and preached to little girls that accepting claims not backed by evidence is a virtue, and that giving up when something is complicated and hard is easier and better than seeking out the truth.

The only episode so far where I felt the moral was actually really bad.
 

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Only one that qualify as a peeve.

Why on earth will nopony (yes I said that, hurr) listen to Twilight? Like ever?

She has an alarming tendency to be right, after all, and she's demonstrated it time and time again. If I were Celestia, I'd just make her head of the secret pony police and never have to worry about goshdarn parasprites again. But no, everyone just turns up their mule in contempt when Twilight raises suspicion. Sure, maybe the first five times, guys, but really? Just -listen- to the purple one for once, you bloody hamburgers!

And one more tiny one. Celestia; you were born with wings. You can -fly-, damnit. Why do you insist on being dragged around by the guards in that santasleigh? It'd fit Queen Elisabeth II, being a thinboned old lady, but not perfectly healthy horses in their prime, damnit.

And security means a bit more than just erecting a manadome around your house and stare into a telescope. Promote Twilight to head the secret pony police and never get embarrasingly outsmarted by Cazadores again.
 

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Every time I see it's a cutie mark crusader ep I just skip it, watch something else or go to sleep. I also find nothing entertaining or enjoyable about Spike. Sorry, he's just not interesting and kind of annoying to me. Also, the fact that Rarity hasn't gotten her own solo spin-off show yet is egregious.
 

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Spike is generally terrible, and season 2 was pretty uneven and inconsistent. Most episodes still had a lot of great animation, and funny moments/gags, but there just weren't a whole lot of episodes that really came together as a whole in terms of narrative structure the way Season 1 episodes did.
 

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I guess my pet peeve is the way the Elements are handled on a day-to-day basis. The most egregious offender is Rarity almost never being generous (and, in fact, often being the opposite). There's a tiny scene in the wedding episode where Applejack (I think) makes a complaint about her dress and Rarity immediately offers to fix it. Little moments like that really help show the qualities of the characters and the show could've used more of them. Especially for Rarity, who has a particularly difficult Element.

On the subject of weddings, that two-parter had ludicrous plot holes going on. What was this "threat" towards Canterlot? Where the heck was Luna (more on that)? How can Changelings simultaneously eat love and be repelled by it? I also kind of half-expected someone to mention at the end of the episode that they were going to bury the bodies and clean up the rubble from the Changeling attack before throwing another wedding, but it's a kids' show, so I guess not.

It also really bothered me how Celestia off-handedly informs Twilight that she needs to "trust her feelings". Really? Y'know, you don't get to be hideously wrong at the expense of your subjects and dispense moral lessons. At least not in the same episode. And it's a bad and/or meaningless lesson. Twilight did trust her feelings, but was shot down by Armor's logic. Logic that Celestia (and, to be fair, Twilight) accepted over feelings.

Lastly, why no Luna? It was pretty clearly established at the beginning that she was going to be hanging around to rule alongside Celestia, but then vanishes for thirty episodes. Which wouldn't be so bad, except that Celestia herself makes frequent appearances. I'm not expecting her every other episode, but there are a few (Sisterhooves Social, the bloody Wedding) where she feels conspicuously absent.
 

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I could not even watch the season 2 end fully.
Partly because i hate wedding episodes.
Partly because i was kinda weirded out about Twilights previously unheard brother.
But mostly because i don't want to even think about sudden appearance of a third Alicorn.

Also, WE NEEED MOAR LUNA.
And RD needs a rematch with the dragon(let's see how it likes a sonic rainnuke in the face), as last fight ended in a tie (what? neither was down for the count when Fluttershy came and interrupted them).

oftopic.
Is it odd that i like RD the most, but dislike episodes centered on her? (except for the sonic rainboom one)
It just feels like when she is just part of the cast, she's like made of awesome and full of win, but any episode centered on her, exaggerates her flaws straight through the roof.

example: The Mysterious Mare Do Well vs Hurricane Fluttershy

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Muspelheim said:
Only one that qualify as a peeve.

Why on earth will nopony (yes I said that, hurr) listen to Twilight? Like ever?
Time travel episode, everyone listened to Twilight, and pretty much did everything she told them to.
Yes, they might not listened to her much at the start, but it has changed over time.
Also, she can be wrong at times so not like she always has the right answer.

Muspelheim said:
And one more tiny one. Celestia; you were born with wings. You can -fly-, damnit. Why do you insist on being dragged around by the guards in that santasleigh? It'd fit Queen Elisabeth II, being a thinboned old lady, but not perfectly healthy horses in their prime, damnit.
My personal theory is that Celestia is at this point pretty much a prisoner of her own station, she can't do things without breaking protocol, which would cause loads of disturbance.
She doesn't care for protocol, but the ponies she is practically the god of, are extremely devoted, and would get upset, if not panic, if she suddenly starts acting in ways they don't expect, so she simply goes along with it unless it's an emergency (at which point ponies are panicked already, and are more than happy to have their goddess fix things for them).
 

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Read it and Weep.
The Daring Doo Book.
The sequences with Daring Doo ticked me right off.
So this is the first book in the serious, correct?
Why does it start with the character in the middle of the jungle, with no mention as to why or how, and then when the temple is revealed the character has apparently being searching for it for months and... wait what?
Oh, a villain... wait, how does Daring know who this is?
Where is the context?
WHY WOULD OWNING A STATUE GIVE THE VILLAIN THE ABILITY TO RULE THE WORLD?
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?
I know it's story within a story and probably wouldn't have been given much attention but my god did it annoy me.
 

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Popadoo said:
Why does it start with the character in the middle of the jungle, with no mention as to why or how, and then when the temple is revealed the character has apparently being searching for it for months and... wait what?
In medias res
 

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nyysjan said:
Popadoo said:
Why does it start with the character in the middle of the jungle, with no mention as to why or how, and then when the temple is revealed the character has apparently being searching for it for months and... wait what?
In medias res
But it's the first book in the series, imagine if a book series started like that. No body would read it, even if it was somehow explained in the next few books.
Also, that doesn't explain my other point, the statue that apparently gives people world-conquering powers.
 

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Giftfromme said:
I just wish there was more sexual tension between the bronies, only then could I watch the show. For now it's simply too dull and flat for me
I am going to assume you misspelled "ponies" as "bronies".
Still, what the fuck? It's a show for small kids. Hasbro will not allow any "sexual tension", and to be honest, I don't want it. Leave that to fanon.
 

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Robert632 said:
O.T:My main gripe is that no one knows who the 6 ponies who saved Equestria(Twice!) are. That's just...silly.
Not to mention that Fluttershy used to be a celebrity role model that endorsed many products, Rainbow Dash performing a Sonic Rainboom while saving the Wonderbolts and Rarity and winning the Young Flyers Competition, Rarity making dresses for Sapphire Shores and Hoity Toity, and lest we forget that Twilight is personal/private student of the Sun goddess, Princess Celestia, and in addition to being sister of the Captain of Celestia's soldiers and having a princess as a foalsitter. You would at least think the Mane6 would get some kind of recognition or celebrity status from it, but Sweet and Elite pretty much proves that they don't know the heroes of Equestria at all!
 

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Popadoo said:
nyysjan said:
Popadoo said:
Why does it start with the character in the middle of the jungle, with no mention as to why or how, and then when the temple is revealed the character has apparently being searching for it for months and... wait what?
In medias res
But it's the first book in the series, imagine if a book series started like that. No body would read it, even if it was somehow explained in the next few books.
Also, that doesn't explain my other point, the statue that apparently gives people world-conquering powers.
Yeah, it would be weird if a book series started like that. But in this case, the book is immediately transferred to the screen, and in movies (or series, or whatever) in medias res works well.
 

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Popadoo said:
Read it and Weep.
The Daring Doo Book.
The sequences with Daring Doo ticked me right off.
So this is the first book in the serious, correct?
Why does it start with the character in the middle of the jungle, with no mention as to why or how, and then when the temple is revealed the character has apparently being searching for it for months and... wait what?
Oh, a villain... wait, how does Daring know who this is?
Where is the context?
WHY WOULD OWNING A STATUE GIVE THE VILLAIN THE ABILITY TO RULE THE WORLD?
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?
I know it's story within a story and probably wouldn't have been given much attention but my god did it annoy me.
Actually, I've always thought of it this way.

Everything in that book is bad writing. However, being someone who has never really read a lot of books, Rainbow Dash thinks it's great, and so becomes addicted to bad adventure novels without every really appreciating the irony.

Maybe I'm just thinking too much into this, but I think that adds a little dynamic to RD's character.

As to why Twilight would own the whole series... c'mon, it's Twilight. She could find merit in any book. She has how-to books for making lists. Pony has her own issues.
 

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itsthesheppy said:
Feeling Pinkie Keen. Hated that episode. Demonized the scientific process and preached to little girls that accepting claims not backed by evidence is a virtue, and that giving up when something is complicated and hard is easier and better than seeking out the truth.

The only episode so far where I felt the moral was actually really bad.
This, 180%. First time I saw this one, I felt like I got punched in the gut. I always loved science as a kid, and think it's a damn shame they're teaching that "science doesn't work all the time, so you just have to have blind faith in random magic to explain parts of life." Your second point is also why I dislike the cutie mark concept. The show creators seem to be saying "you shouldn't try things that you don't know how to do, you should only keep with stuff you're already good at. If it takes effort, time, and patience to learn, you will never succeed at it."

That said, I feel it is important to ape what everyone else has already said: *ahem* MOAR LUNA, PLX. Seriously, awesome character. I'd also like more songs, but that's 'cause I like to sing to them (barring some of Pinkie's stuff; her exaggerated vibrato drives me nuts sometimes).
 

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Catrixa said:
itsthesheppy said:
Feeling Pinkie Keen. Hated that episode. Demonized the scientific process and preached to little girls that accepting claims not backed by evidence is a virtue, and that giving up when something is complicated and hard is easier and better than seeking out the truth.

The only episode so far where I felt the moral was actually really bad.
This, 180%. First time I saw this one, I felt like I got punched in the gut. I always loved science as a kid, and think it's a damn shame they're teaching that "science doesn't work all the time, so you just have to have blind faith in random magic to explain parts of life." Your second point is also why I dislike the cutie mark concept. The show creators seem to be saying "you shouldn't try things that you don't know how to do, you should only keep with stuff you're already good at. If it takes effort, time, and patience to learn, you will never succeed at it."

That said, I feel it is important to ape what everyone else has already said: *ahem* MOAR LUNA, PLX. Seriously, awesome character. I'd also like more songs, but that's 'cause I like to sing to them (barring some of Pinkie's stuff; her exaggerated vibrato drives me nuts sometimes).
Oh god it's so nice to know I'm not alone in disliking that episode!
 

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Veylon said:
On the subject of weddings, that two-parter had ludicrous plot holes going on. What was this "threat" towards Canterlot? Where the heck was Luna (more on that)? How can Changelings simultaneously eat love and be repelled by it?
1)I daresay whatever the threat was, it was invented by Chrysalis-as-Cadance so Shining Armor would have to keep up the shield and she'd be able to feed off've him under the guise of healing his magical headaches, and nopony would suspect that the real threat, Chrysalis, was already inside.

2) Repelled by love-boosted magic, not love.