Modern Gamers Unimpressed by Miyamoto

[wooty]

Hm, I'd still rather play anything, anything "rehashed" by Miyamoto.than most of.the current modern stuff on the market.

Zelda will always rule supreme.

Hah, if Zelda rules supreme something like the Witcher must be the fucking emperor of the multiverse. If you can't tell I've never found a Nintendo game worth playing.

Then you've neve played a Nintendo gme then. I'm not even a nitendo fan per se, but fun is fun and their games are fun.
Screw the witcher, I guess? Was it good? I honestly dont know. If you think its wort playing then I might pick it up.

 

[Jamash]

Sorry, but modern gamers are idiots then. This is the one the guys who has helped gaming become as big at it has today, being involved in some of the biggest franchises of all time - which include Mario, Legend of Zelda, Donkey Kong, Star Fox, F-Zero, Pikmin and the "Wii" series of games. And one of the people he mentored (Satoshi Tajiri) went on to create Pokemon. He also made the Metroid Prime series as well after the original creator died.

Feel free to say that he may not be as innovative as he used to be but as for being unimpressed with him? That's just wrong in my opinion

I've been gaming since 1983, but have never owned a Nintendo console or played a Nintendo game.

For all of his apparent wonders, none of Miyamoto's work has had any noticeable impression on my gaming life.

I am literally unimpressed by Miyamoto.

Does that mean I'm an idiot just because I haven't played any Nintendo games and don't have fond memories of franchises I haven't experienced?

That depends, I suppose. Do you recognise (even if you haven't played any of his work) that he has definitely had an impact on video gaming in his 20 years of work and has helped it to what it has become today? Because if you don't, then yes I would. Well, perhaps idiot isn't the right word, ignorant maybe.

Well, apparently he's had an impact on gaming and quite a few people seem quite passionate about his work, but like I said all of that is completely outside my sphere of awareness and means little to me. I know it's a thing and I'm aware that some people more knowledgeable than me think highly of this thing, but that's the extent of my blind acceptance.

I suppose I could look up some facts and figures on Wikipedia and see for myself what he's done and how it's affected gaming, but honestly apart from name recognition, I'm largely unaware of his works and their influence on anything.

From what I've seen of Nintendo games, they just don't interest me at all and without studying things I don't really care about, the best acknowledgement of Miyamoto's influence you'd get from me is that I acknowledge the popularity of his work made gaming more acceptable and accessible for people who like that sort of thing, and also Nintendo's presence undoubtedly fuelled the competition between consoles and game makers in the earlier generations.

The reason for my lack of awareness about Nintendo is when they were battling with Sega for control of the home console market, I was enjoying my Spectrum and Amiga and the multitude of varied game they had to offer, games that were so much more accessible than the expensive console cartridges, especially as the monthly magazines came with tapes and discs loaded with games (not to mention the naive schoolchildren up and down the country swapping copied games on tapes and floppies like they were football album stickers).

If I'm ignorant, then it's a blissful ignorance as I've been able to enjoy games well enough, largely due to the talents of the British home computer game developers than the Japanese console game developers.

 

[malestrithe]

Snip

You know, there are things in life that you just gotta learn to let go. You will get nothing accomplished if you spend all of your time pointing out every bit of hypocrisy that you come across.

Miyamoto was caught being hypocritical. In the grand scheme of things, so what? Does this little exercise do nothing other than validate your opinions of, or his company? What difference does it make if it did more?

There are more important things in life than getting this mad about Miyamoto and his statements.

 

[Andy Shandy]

Sorry, but modern gamers are idiots then. This is the one the guys who has helped gaming become as big at it has today, being involved in some of the biggest franchises of all time - which include Mario, Legend of Zelda, Donkey Kong, Star Fox, F-Zero, Pikmin and the "Wii" series of games. And one of the people he mentored (Satoshi Tajiri) went on to create Pokemon. He also made the Metroid Prime series as well after the original creator died.

Feel free to say that he may not be as innovative as he used to be but as for being unimpressed with him? That's just wrong in my opinion

I've been gaming since 1983, but have never owned a Nintendo console or played a Nintendo game.

For all of his apparent wonders, none of Miyamoto's work has had any noticeable impression on my gaming life.

I am literally unimpressed by Miyamoto.

Does that mean I'm an idiot just because I haven't played any Nintendo games and don't have fond memories of franchises I haven't experienced?

That depends, I suppose. Do you recognise (even if you haven't played any of his work) that he has definitely had an impact on video gaming in his 20 years of work and has helped it to what it has become today? Because if you don't, then yes I would. Well, perhaps idiot isn't the right word, ignorant maybe.

Well, apparently he's had an impact on gaming and quite a few people seem quite passionate about his work, but like I said all of that is completely outside my sphere of awareness and means little to me. I know it's a thing and I'm aware that some people more knowledgeable than me think highly of this thing, but that's the extent of my blind acceptance.

I suppose I could look up some facts and figures on Wikipedia and see for myself what he's done and how it's affected gaming, but honestly apart from name recognition, I'm largely unaware of his works and their influence on anything.

From what I've seen of Nintendo games, they just don't interest me at all and without studying things I don't really care about, the best acknowledgement of Miyamoto's influence you'd get from me is that I acknowledge the popularity of his work made gaming more acceptable and accessible for people who like that sort of thing, and also Nintendo's presence undoubtedly fuelled the competition between consoles and game makers in the earlier generations.

The reason for my lack of awareness about Nintendo is when they were battling with Sega for control of the home console market, I was enjoying my Spectrum and Amiga and the multitude of varied game they had to offer, games that were so much more accessible than the expensive console cartridges, especially as the monthly magazines came with tapes and discs loaded with games (not to mention the naive schoolchildren up and down the country swapping copied games on tapes and floppies like they were football album stickers).

If I'm ignorant, then it's a blissful ignorance as I've been able to enjoy games well enough, largely due to the talents of the British home computer game developers than the Japanese console game developers.

Fair enough, I appreciate you have your reasons for that then. And as people say "ignorance is bliss" =P

 

[Irridium]

Oh ok, so when you said 'modern gamers unimpressed by Miyamoto' you actually meant 'I don't like Miyamoto and I now represent all modern gamers because of reasons'. Just so we're clear ^_^

Indeed. So the guy isn't all that impressed by modern games.

So what?

 

[Hazy992]

Oh ok, so when you said 'modern gamers unimpressed by Miyamoto' you actually meant 'I don't like Miyamoto and I now represent all modern gamers because of reasons'. Just so we're clear ^_^

Indeed. So the guy isn't all that impressed by modern games.

So what?

Exactly. I'll admit I'm pretty bored with Nintendo games but I've got nothing against the guy. If he doesn't like modern games that much who cares?

 

[Casual Shinji]

Miyamoto will always speak in a way that puts Nintendo in a positive light.

You know why? Exactly.

So best to add some salt to Miyamoto's opinions on anything game related.

 

[pure.Wasted]

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You know, there are things in life that you just gotta learn to let go. You will get nothing accomplished if you spend all of your time pointing out every bit of hypocrisy that you come across.

Miyamoto was caught being hypocritical. In the grand scheme of things, so what? Does this little exercise do nothing other than validate your opinions of, or his company? What difference does it make if it did more?

There are more important things in life than getting this mad about Miyamoto and his statements.

I'm not mad at Miyamoto in the slightest.

What I'm not a fan of is people holding the Nintendo model up as the Jesus Christ of video games, to the point that not thinking Ocarina of Time is still the greatest game ever produced automatically marks you low-brow in the eyes of gaming hipsters the world over.

Nintendo makes fun games. Not games that challenge you and present new ideas that you've never encountered in quite this way before, not games that tell rich stories with compelling characters, not games that bring you to your knees with sheer imaginative spectacle, not games that immerse you in worlds so replete with depth and details, you could almost mistake them for real ones, not games that push the boundary of what it means to be a game. Just fun games.

And then I have to sit and listen to my friend, who knows a lot about a lot of things, but woefully little about gaming, because he hasn't even picked up a controller in years, talk about how games need to go back to being Zelda. That's what "games should be all about."

This crap is invading my personal life outside of my time on the internet.

 

[Dastardly]

The last time this talentless hack made anything that was in any way new or original was in the early 2000s. He's been coasting on nostalgia ever since there were video games old enough to be nostalgic about.

Modern engineers unimpressed by Ugg, inventor of the Wheel. The last time he did anything original was like, what, 14,000 b.c.? And despite the fact that so many modern inventions use this early effort as a jumping-off point, it is totally okay to bash what he did because we're so much further along now.

 

[Paradoxrifts]

If it there is one thing that all old men do exceedingly well, it is pointing out obvious problems to which they can provide no solutions for. So unless that stunning observation ended with him admitting that he is part of the problem and announcing his permanent retirement, I think Miyamato can keep his opinions to himself lest he die from an acute case of hypocrisy poisoning.

 

[dessertmonkeyjk]

Everyone has to admit that they like games that have both quality and flexability.

You want to get up to that platform? Then jump. Now do it again 100 different ways including chucking a pie, vaulting over a chasm, paragliding, skidding on an wall covered in ice, invert gravity, and undergo the negative world.

You want to shoot this guy? Do it. Now shoot him again. Again. Again. Bored yet? Then shoot him again. Doesn't matter what gun you use as long as it has a bullet.

Even though it can get stale eventually I would rather have a game stop being fun after about 10 hours then 2 hours.

captcha: make it so
I like you.

 

[Keoul]

Mario not innovative?

Spoiler

In comparison with the old 2D mario
-Nice looking visuals
-Different plot (Seriously the princess isn't even "kidnapped")
-Different game mechanics (combat is completely different)
-Great story

How can you compare these innovations to COD?
-New gun
-New Perk
-New map

I'm not going to add story or visuals into this COD list because it's a shooter game for crying out loud the story is going to be pretty predictable and generic (Not their fault just inevitable) and the visuals for the latest COD actually had some complaints for being worse than a previous title.

 

[bluesession]

look at the last 4 call of duty games, then look at the last 4 zelda games. notice anything?
tell me which one is a rehash.

Both of them?

I really don't care for miyamoto more than I care about whoever keeps making the COD games.

 

[flaming_squirrel]

Mario not innovative?

Spoiler

In comparison with the old 2D mario
-Nice looking visuals
-Different plot (Seriously the princess isn't even "kidnapped")
-Different game mechanics (combat is completely different)
-Great story

How can you compare these innovations to COD?
-New gun
-New Perk
-New map

I'm not going to add story or visuals into this COD list because it's a shooter game for crying out loud the story is going to be pretty predictable and generic (Not their fault just inevitable) and the visuals for the latest COD actually had some complaints for being worse than a previous title.

Worst argument I've ever read, honestly.
You're claiming that those sprite graphics are some form of improvement over the original, really? They're still godamn sprites.

Different game mechanics, from what that video shows these hardly seem to be a big selling point.

Great story, ahahah. It's mario.

Also MW3 used the exact same engine as MW2, they look identical. Anyone claiming one looks worse is an idiot.

 

[MarsProbe]

Title should read "modern gamers easily offended by legitimate criticism from people who probably know what they're talking about."

He was hardly voicing an opinion on a specialist subject.

OT: I've never understood the Nintendo fascination. If you want to know what creative redundancy looks like, then they're it.

It's all so fucking vapid.

A round of applause for this man!

Other than thinking it may be something to do with the fact that they are the last of the 'original' console manufacturers still, well, manufacturing consoles. If it was Nintendo that had fallen foul of a certain newcomer to the console race during the 32-bit era, people we would probably just be sitting here in worship of Sega and their glorious new massmarket approach to games and console while they are endlessly praised for their shoehorning of Sonic into every conceivable game they produce.

Captcha: chow down

Yeh! Get ready to chow down! Or something like that.

 

[dancinginfernal]

Skyward Sword made me love Miyamoto again.

I don't know who Miyamoto is am I a bad person?

Kids these days.

 

[Scipio1770]

You want to shoot this guy? Do it. Now shoot him again. Again. Again. Bored yet? Then shoot him again. Doesn't matter what gun you use as long as it has a bullet.

Even though it can get stale eventually I would rather have a game stop being fun after about 10 hours then 2 hours.

How can you compare these innovations to COD?
-New gun
-New Perk
-New map

I like how COD is suddenly the only modern game in existence. Why not compare mario and zelda to modern games like bastion, journey, skyrim, portal 2.

No matter how you look at it, Nintendo hasn't done much for the industry's innovation theatre since the Wii was first released. The Wii motion controls Miyamoto is so proud of have been almost completely unimproved since it's release, Microsoft's kinect technology surpassed it over the course of only 2 years. Valve and Microsoft and even Sony have made huge headway in improving digital distribution and home media integration. Services like Steam, PSN, and XBLA have especially helped in fostring a strong indie gaming market, even a growing modding community (something nintendo has completely ignored). Sure, GoW or COD's gameplay formula has stayed the same just like mario zelda games, but the former's multiplayer support, graphics engines, and update frequency far surpass the latter's.