Modern Music: Why I hate it
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OuroborosChoked said:
Noise and Industrial. Very.
Nurse With Wound, Throbbing Gristle, NON, Early Current 93 and Throbbing Gristle are all have examples of Noise. But they're also definitely all Industrial groups. Throbbing Gristle is generally considered the poster child for Industrial Music. Noise and Industrial are very closely intertwined. The modern European Noise subculture grew out of Industrial and Japanese Noise which was heavily influenced by Industrial. One of the biggest contributors being Whitehouse. So yes, to call it Industrial is probably a bit of a misnomer, but it's what it grew out of, so I thought I could point out that what I'm talking about didn't spring out John Cage's ass.
Modern Noise groups that I'm familiar with are bands like Prurient, Xome, Wolf Eyes, Brighter Death Now, Slogun, Double Leopards, Emeralds, Merzbow(duh), Sick Llama, Robedoor, Borbetomagus, I could go on forever really. Noise is also strongly intertwined with Dark Ambient in strange and inexplicable way.
I listen to alot of Death Metal , black metal, etc, alot of it isn't mainstream, but not quite under ground. I particularly like Amon Amarth, I think they are Symphonic Death.
Amon AMarth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eABVwEgzIss
Dimmu Borgir (Black Metal)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAmMcBQavKE
Amon AMarth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eABVwEgzIss
Dimmu Borgir (Black Metal)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAmMcBQavKE
Also, not all Noise is harsh, some is made out of soft fuzzy drones. Emeralds, Double Leopards, and Tusco Terror are good examples of this.OuroborosChoked said:
The link mostly seems to be that fans of one type are fans of the other. The Helix Collective or whatever they're called now, Lustmord, Tereth, Atrium Carceri, Black Seas of Infinity, and probably Necrophorous but I've never listened to them, etc. A lot of people who are fans of one are fans of the other. Or they come from the Ambient Metal camp, however lots of people who like "Ambient Metal" also like Noise. There seems to be some cross pollination. Nyodene D and Solarkult are great examples of this.
You listen to the radio and believe it stands for modern music? Someone has a lot to learn.JRCB said:
Music (like any form of entertainment) falls under Sturgeon's law, 90% of everything is useless drivel.
The great thing about looking back in time through ruby glasses, is that you ignore that 90%.
The problem is that there has, and always will be shitty music, there was in every decade. But the thing about looking back, is the shit has faded into obscurity, and all the good stuff has taken the forefront.
People will look back in 30 years time probably and say that the '00's were the best time in music.
The great thing about looking back in time through ruby glasses, is that you ignore that 90%.
The problem is that there has, and always will be shitty music, there was in every decade. But the thing about looking back, is the shit has faded into obscurity, and all the good stuff has taken the forefront.
People will look back in 30 years time probably and say that the '00's were the best time in music.
To be honest I loved it, I know I'm not familiar with the genre at all, but it was different and from my point of view completely original. Have you ever heard of Mr. Bungle? They have that same kind of chaotic sound to them, especially on Disco Volante. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjjFl70CJEkMarbas said:
Also the problem with modern music and radio is that most radio stations, at least where I'm from, usually play the same songs, reapeating all day long, you just need to look harder to find the bands that really shine. Like Mute Math, they are kind of mellow at times, but they are extremely talented musicians and make amazing music in my opinion at least.
I completely disagree the internet opened up music, its now much easier to find bands that you would have never heard of otherwise.Bored Tomatoe said:
Lately, I've been listening to a lot of international music, and I'm finding it a lot better then most of the mainstream drivel played in North America (Katy Perry, anyone?), though that may be because in order for me in Canada to have found it, it must be exceptionally good.
Most of the blame IMO lies at the feet of pop culture. Most people (that I know, anyways) seem to like music with lyrics about nothing in particular, bass lines that are all of maybe three notes repeated for the length of the song, and other nonsensical drivel that entails the majority of pop music these days.
Most of the blame IMO lies at the feet of pop culture. Most people (that I know, anyways) seem to like music with lyrics about nothing in particular, bass lines that are all of maybe three notes repeated for the length of the song, and other nonsensical drivel that entails the majority of pop music these days.
olaffub42 said:
I understand why some people can like this kind of music (I, a musician, am not a fan), but I think fans of this "noise" are forgetting something; through the minds of the average person, this sounds absolutely terrible. Longtime listeners will find nuances and subtleties (uh oh.. spelling?) in what these artists are doing, but to a person who is listening to this for the first time, it just sounds like screeching and static.
At the same time, I think haters (and maybe fans) should recognize that since this type of music is never going to become the popular genre (sorry, it's not going to happen), it should not be looked at as "music." It should be looked at as an art form all its own.
Of course, fans of this genre could be full of sh*t and just claim to hear nuances when in reality they don't hear anything, but I'm not one to judge. xD
To really think that the 60s and the 70s were the heyday of music really neglects the 1200-1800s eras.
Not to mention that the really good classic songs from the 60s and 70s we hear now aren't the only songs that were put out back then...those decades produced their poppy drivel as well, the point is that the term diamond in the rough applies to all artforms.
Not to mention that the really good classic songs from the 60s and 70s we hear now aren't the only songs that were put out back then...those decades produced their poppy drivel as well, the point is that the term diamond in the rough applies to all artforms.
I poke around to find some gems on "Perfectly legal" music download sites, but I do agree most music today not only are slight variations of each other but they just repeat the same four vocals sometimes, makes me want to pull my hair out.
Ah! you just haven't heard the good stuff. For just listening though I will admit that stuff like Boston and Pink Floyd is superior. But I like to party...Kriegsherr said:
