Mom microwaves child; Another kills child over broken TV

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dyre

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With 8 billion people on the world, is it that surprising we have a few crazies?
 

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Gizmodo said:
Kang Ya, a 29-year-old from Sacramento, has been taken into custody for what police are saying were fatal burns administered to her 6-week-old daughter, via microwave. Happy nightmaring.
Happy nightmaring indeed, this is exactly why I don't watch the news and try to lock myself out of any news from any media. Crap like these stories, and this: http://bit.ly/lsMOE8 make me wish there was a way that people had to register and pass some form of test to have children, sort of like how you need a pass to have a child in china. don't flame me on this, I'm not commenting on whether China's one-child system or its consequences are yay or naye, merely commenting on how the registration to have a child clearly in some manner is possible to do, and should be done o'er here, because quite frankly some people do not have the right to have children
 

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This is crazy beyond anything else. If this is how humans do now... Maybe we shoulda stayed in the trees.
 

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richardplex said:
Gizmodo said:
Kang Ya, a 29-year-old from Sacramento, has been taken into custody for what police are saying were fatal burns administered to her 6-week-old daughter, via microwave. Happy nightmaring.
Happy nightmaring indeed, this is exactly why I don't watch the news and try to lock myself out of any news from any media. Crap like these stories, and this: http://bit.ly/lsMOE8 make me wish there was a way that people had to register and pass some form of test to have children, sort of like how you need a pass to have a child in china. don't flame me on this, I'm not commenting on whether China's one-child system or its consequences are yay or naye, merely commenting on how the registration to have a child clearly in some manner is possible to do, and should be done o'er here, because quite frankly some people do not have the right to have children
well acording to the OP the courts really should have taken the child away before hand esspecially if there were (I belive the number was) 9 cases of abuse already not to mention calls to the police of family disputes and drug issues.
 

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richardplex said:
Gizmodo said:
Kang Ya, a 29-year-old from Sacramento, has been taken into custody for what police are saying were fatal burns administered to her 6-week-old daughter, via microwave. Happy nightmaring.
Happy nightmaring indeed, this is exactly why I don't watch the news and try to lock myself out of any news from any media. Crap like these stories, and this: http://bit.ly/lsMOE8 make me wish there was a way that people had to register and pass some form of test to have children, sort of like how you need a pass to have a child in china. don't flame me on this, I'm not commenting on whether China's one-child system or its consequences are yay or naye, merely commenting on how the registration to have a child clearly in some manner is possible to do, and should be done o'er here, because quite frankly some people do not have the right to have children
The problem is, who determines the qualifications for being a parent? How possibly corrupt would anyone in that position become?
 

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Goldjit said:
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kman123 said:
How can you be charged for both murder and manslaughter? someone explain.
In the case of the second story. I think it was manslaughter for "unintentionally" hurting the boy to the point of death. But murder for not taking the kid to hospital when she knew he was in pain. Or the other way round. I am unsure.
Nevertheless, she knew she did something wrong and sadly it ended in the worse possible way. Punish her by example!

As for the first case, I'm interested in knowing why she did it. Is it wrong that I hate that they are questioning her mental condition? I hear that far too much.
So you think a person that microwaves their kid doesn't have questionable mental health? Remind me never to leave my kids around you.

As for the dual charges, it's more comment then you think. Just in this case the terms used are quite different rather then the term and a degree. They provide multiple charges because a person cannot be tried for the same crime multiple times, and if they cannot provide evidence of the specifics needed for the harsher charge they still can for the lesser charge, and the person still gets punished. It would be a shame for the prosecution to pursue a murder and have the defense draw doubt on that meeting the qualifications for murder (without even bothering to deny the crime), letting her off without so much as a slap on the wrist.
 

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Blind Sight said:
richardplex said:
The problem is, who determines the qualifications for being a parent? How possibly corrupt would anyone in that position become?
I know there are significant problems with my idea, I know, but... I think, if somehow done right, or as close to right as possible, the problem is outweighed by the good that would come out of it. Because allowing this to keep happening, it's just not acceptable. Punishment for the crime isn't going to help those children, only the prevention.

And to those who say "well, your plan prevents children being born in the first place" they're basically being born to be microwaved to death... me, I'd prefer not being born
 

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Both of those are sick :/ The microwave one is fucking horrible but I can't imagine what it must have been like for the other kid, a 5 year old kid is in agony for 5 whole days before dieing and the parent does nothing.
 

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kman123 said:
How can you be charged for both murder and manslaughter? someone explain.
The same way you get charged with "Assault" and "Battery"
they're very close in definition to one another
but they're not the EXACT same thing
so you get both slammed on you
 

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1) Only cure is procreation licenses.
2) Beaten to death: How could anyone kill anyone for something as trivial as a broken TV especially when he quite clearly didn't intend for that to happen? Microwave: who could do that to anyone, let alone their own kid?!
 

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Seven billion sperm/egg generators and no possible way to control breeding to pare out the most broken ones within a generation or two.

This is unsurprising.
 

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kman123 said:
How can you be charged for both murder and manslaughter? someone explain.
1 Count of Murder for intentionally striking the child causing death.
Possibly second degree as it wasn't intentional or planned but rather 'of the moment'.

1 Count of Criminally Neglegent Manslaughter for not taking the child to the hospital.
Criminal neglegence tends to deal with the individuals actions(or lack there of) more then it does with the over all outcome the actions taken.
 

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Every time I'm having a good day, slept in, the pups snuggled up to me, mom has made some stellar eggs and sasuage, dad has the day off, maybe we planned to do something fun, then BAM!!! I read a thread like this and it ruins everything!

-75 Faith in Humanity.
 

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Goldjit said:
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As for the first case, I'm interested in knowing why she did it. Is it wrong that I hate that they are questioning her mental condition? I hear that far too much.
Why wouldn't/shouldn't they question her mental condition? Not only do they need to identify any disorders in order to prevent the mother from doing further harm to herself or others, but they also need to assess why they haven't helped her before. People don't go from "sane" to baby-microwaving overnight.

Personally I hear far to much of people treating poor mental health as some despicable excuse used only to get lighter sentencing.
 

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Those stories make me think that crucifixion should be brought back as a method of execution, or something similar.
Handcuff the people to a metal, possibly wooden, frame outside (preferably in a desert) and with system set up to keep them from dying of dehydration so that they'd either slowly die of exposure, starvation or something else equally drawn-out and painful.
 

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As I posted in the last article of this nature, this is what happens when stupid people are allowed to procreate. A condom back then would have prevented it all.