Mom microwaves child; Another kills child over broken TV

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silvermorning624

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FamoFunk said:
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Damn, sometimes you just have to wonder how many of these people are out there.
A lot. It jusy seems to be cropping up in the news more and more though.

I honestly wonder what goes throught peoples mind when they harm someone, especially poor inoccent babies who can't even defend themselves :(
That is a very good question. How does someone end up at that point, where a broken t.v. is enough to kill your own flesh and blood. What I don't understand is how can someone can have so little regard for life.
 

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Jonluw said:
This is why it had been nice to force prospective parents to take some sort of eligibility test before having a child.
The problem with that is that the test would probably go like this:

Your child is bothering you, what do you do?
a) Get over it
b) Microwave them

So unless you dyslexic, there's really nothing stopping you from passing, whether your fit or not. That, and I can't support needing to take a test to perform a basic human survival function.
 

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And it wasn't even Microwave Monday...
Oh my, that was possibly in bad taste.

On topic: Words cannot express my emotions right now. That's... this... story... not right... AWWWWWWGH! *Brain melts*
 

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kickassfrog said:
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How can you be charged for both murder and manslaughter? someone explain.
In the case of the second story. I think it was manslaughter for "unintentionally" hurting the boy to the point of death. But murder for not taking the kid to hospital when she knew he was in pain. Or the other way round. I am unsure.
Nevertheless, she knew she did something wrong and sadly it ended in the worse possible way. Punish her by example!

As for the first case, I'm interested in knowing why she did it. Is it wrong that I hate that they are questioning her mental condition? I hear that far too much.
So you think a person that microwaves their kid doesn't have questionable mental health? Remind me never to leave my kids around you.

As for the dual charges, it's more comment then you think. Just in this case the terms used are quite different rather then the term and a degree. They provide multiple charges because a person cannot be tried for the same crime multiple times, and if they cannot provide evidence of the specifics needed for the harsher charge they still can for the lesser charge, and the person still gets punished. It would be a shame for the prosecution to pursue a murder and have the defense draw doubt on that meeting the qualifications for murder (without even bothering to deny the crime), letting her off without so much as a slap on the wrist.
Their mental health is not questionable. Nobody who does that can be said to be mentally in perfect working order.
That was exactly my point. Through I might have misinterpreted the poster I quoted. I was under the impression they where upset that the person might be "getting away with it" by claiming insanity. Which is far from getting away with it, but that is another story for another day.

That her mental stability is in question should be a giving considering the crime, but that shouldn't automatically mean she doesn't have the mental capacity to understand what she did or stand trial.
 

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I'm surprised you can't microwave a baby in Duke Nukem Forever.

Joking aside, these people deserve the worst possible punishment. The second offender maybe more so. Killing your baby in the heat of the moment (get it? Heat?) is one thing, allowing them to suffer for days is another.
 

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silvermorning624 said:
FamoFunk said:
Temah said:
Damn, sometimes you just have to wonder how many of these people are out there.
A lot. It jusy seems to be cropping up in the news more and more though.

I honestly wonder what goes throught peoples mind when they harm someone, especially poor inoccent babies who can't even defend themselves :(
That is a very good question. How does someone end up at that point, where a broken t.v. is enough to kill your own flesh and blood. What I don't understand is how can someone can have so little regard for life.
You could start understanding that by not purposefully misinterpreting what happened. She struck her kid out of anger over breaking the TV. Still horrible but the intent wasn't to kill the child. The blow didn't immediately kill the child either. The child lasted five days and stood a change of living with proper medical care.

This is a women with a history of violence and, had she been a he, would have already been in jail for domestic abuse. The double standard is a serious problem (highlighted in cases like this) that needs to be addressed in most developed countries. This was more of the same violence made even more tragic by her selfishness. She refused to take her child who was slowly and painfully dying to the hospital because she was afraid people would figure out what she did.
 
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Eri said:
Gizmodo said:
Kang Ya, a 29-year-old from Sacramento, has been taken into custody for what police are saying were fatal burns administered to her 6-week-old daughter, via microwave. Happy nightmaring.
http://gizmodo.com/5814366/woman-arrested-for-microwaving-her-baby-to-death
It's interesting how it goes:
"Investigation report: injuries consistent with microwave burns"
"Mom accused of microwaving child"
"Mom arrested for microwaving child"
"Mom microwaves child"

All from the same source. It's like that Chinese whispers game except, y'know, somebody's life is prematurely ruined.

Haven't you heard the expression "trial by media"?
 

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Yet every time I say some people deserve sterilization they look at me like I'm freaking Adolf Hitler.
 

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James Joseph Emerald said:
Eri said:
Gizmodo said:
Kang Ya, a 29-year-old from Sacramento, has been taken into custody for what police are saying were fatal burns administered to her 6-week-old daughter, via microwave. Happy nightmaring.
http://gizmodo.com/5814366/woman-arrested-for-microwaving-her-baby-to-death
It's interesting how it goes:
"Investigation report: injuries consistent with microwave burns"
"Mom accused of microwaving child"
"Mom arrested for microwaving child"
"Mom microwaves child"

All from the same source. It's like that Chinese whispers game except, y'know, somebody's life is prematurely ruined.

Haven't you heard the expression "trial by media"?
Are you trying to imply that she -didn't- microwave the kid?
 

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Blind Sight said:
richardplex said:
Gizmodo said:
Kang Ya, a 29-year-old from Sacramento, has been taken into custody for what police are saying were fatal burns administered to her 6-week-old daughter, via microwave. Happy nightmaring.
Happy nightmaring indeed, this is exactly why I don't watch the news and try to lock myself out of any news from any media. Crap like these stories, and this: http://bit.ly/lsMOE8 make me wish there was a way that people had to register and pass some form of test to have children, sort of like how you need a pass to have a child in china. don't flame me on this, I'm not commenting on whether China's one-child system or its consequences are yay or naye, merely commenting on how the registration to have a child clearly in some manner is possible to do, and should be done o'er here, because quite frankly some people do not have the right to have children
The problem is, who determines the qualifications for being a parent? How possibly corrupt would anyone in that position become?
Not very corrupt at all. The position would be very simple.

The person in question sees the potential parent's criminal record and the results of three psych evaluations taken a few years apart. No names, no ethnicity, nothing.

If the person is fucked up, they get denied. If they aren't fucked up, they don't.

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twistedmic said:
Those stories make me think that crucifixion should be brought back as a method of execution, or something similar.
Handcuff the people to a metal, possibly wooden, frame outside (preferably in a desert) and with system set up to keep them from dying of dehydration so that they'd either slowly die of exposure, starvation or something else equally drawn-out and painful.
Wow.

Um, why?

Oh and if you say punishment as a means to prevent others committing crimes, that doesn't work. In fact it was exactly why the mother in the second case didn't get help for her son, so crucifixion, surprisingly, wouldn't make things better. Someone has been playing too much New Vegas.

On second thoughts, might get a new Christ, but after we crucified him again, we'd be breaking even once more...so hardly worth it.
If you kill the people who commit crimes, you either run out of people or you run out of crimes.

So yeah, that would actually work. Why don't we do that again? It's not like spending the rest of your life in a small square with the occasional beatings, shankings, and rapes is more humane than a bullet to the back of the head.
 

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What?

How did the second kid die?

Just a single hit that caused massive internal damage? was she wearing a katar or somthing?
 

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Faith in Humanity: -1000

Jesus, these people... Fucking kill them off. For the second one, do the same to her and have her suffer for 5 days, se how SHE likes it. But instead, have an audience, so we can all laugh at her demise. Fucking *****.
 

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I literally feel sick. I know this sounds Police-State-ish, but I honestly believe that for the good of man-kind, your should have to pass a test and receive a license in order to breed. Otherwise you get shipped to "Degenerate Island", where you don't have to worry too much about population over-growth because no one there knows any better to be able to live past 25.
 

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We should blame the Wii because the mother is obviously not at fault!

How dare the Wii cause this horrible crime!


(for serious though: humanity disappoints me sometimes)
 
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Eri said:
James Joseph Emerald said:
Eri said:
Gizmodo said:
Kang Ya, a 29-year-old from Sacramento, has been taken into custody for what police are saying were fatal burns administered to her 6-week-old daughter, via microwave. Happy nightmaring.
http://gizmodo.com/5814366/woman-arrested-for-microwaving-her-baby-to-death
It's interesting how it goes:
"Investigation report: injuries consistent with microwave burns"
"Mom accused of microwaving child"
"Mom arrested for microwaving child"
"Mom microwaves child"

All from the same source. It's like that Chinese whispers game except, y'know, somebody's life is prematurely ruined.

Haven't you heard the expression "trial by media"?
Are you trying to imply that she -didn't- microwave the kid?
I'm implying that as the original article states: "nobody knows what happened in that house except for the woman and her baby".
And I think assuming someone is guilty just because an article says they might be is a pretty ignant attitude to take.
 

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I weep for humanity

This reminds me of Malthus' positive check, which reminds me of the thing I should be doing right now, studying.
 

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For once I'm speachless the first story is just...well....beyond sick what frame of mind must she have been on to...pretty much cook her poor kid j seriously hope to the same degree on some maximum security prison somewhere. The 2nd story...omg I knew them wii remoteso were dangerous :-( surprised she hasn't tried sueing Nintendo. Sick In the head both of them
 

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James Joseph Emerald said:
Eri said:
James Joseph Emerald said:
Eri said:
Gizmodo said:
Kang Ya, a 29-year-old from Sacramento, has been taken into custody for what police are saying were fatal burns administered to her 6-week-old daughter, via microwave. Happy nightmaring.
http://gizmodo.com/5814366/woman-arrested-for-microwaving-her-baby-to-death
It's interesting how it goes:
"Investigation report: injuries consistent with microwave burns"
"Mom accused of microwaving child"
"Mom arrested for microwaving child"
"Mom microwaves child"

All from the same source. It's like that Chinese whispers game except, y'know, somebody's life is prematurely ruined.

Haven't you heard the expression "trial by media"?
Are you trying to imply that she -didn't- microwave the kid?
I'm implying that as the original article states: "nobody knows what happened in that house except for the woman and her baby".
And I think assuming someone is guilty just because an article says they might be is a pretty ignant attitude to take.
All I have to say is the baby sure as hell didn't microwave itself.
 

Brandon237

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With 8 billion people on the world, is it that surprising we have a few crazies?
While agree with the point to a degree, 8 Billion does sound a bit... much. Last stats I saw put it at 6,6 billion...

And that is bloody sick, A MICROWAVE?!?!