More school, yay or nay?
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I think they should have classes for idiots that are at school for socializing, and classes for people hat actually want o do work. One class explains well and lets you do you work, the other lets you dick around like 80% of people in high-school want to do.
Seconded, or whatever it is up to now. Simply put, if you don't have quality schooling then being forced to endure more of it is NOT going to improve the problem what so ever.poncho14 said:
Well, I'm going to move myself and my 'high horse' onto higher ground and stray away from your needless flaming. I'm only suggesting that you strive to better yourself and embrace such a beautiful language, which generations upon generations of people, from Shakespeare to even Tolkien, have so wonderfully mastered. Maybe while you do so, you could adjust your temper, as well. As you said- "It's a 'fucking' forum." No need to be angry.Rutawitz said:
Apologies to the thread creator for straying so far from the road.
You know what I can't help but feel... the irony! English is a bastardised language after all. Yet here is someone complaining that we are not 'using the proper spelling and grammar.' English ripped off several languages, and butchered the sentence structure something horrid as any Gallic derived speaker will happily point out, and now we are meant to be all upset cause something isn't spelt just right or someone uses a different format then what 'masters of the tongue' would of used.Rutawitz said:
I will be quite upset if any part of this bill passes, as will I be upset if any of the plans posed by anyone that has posted on this thread are somehow put into effect. Why should I have to suffer because the majority of students in the USA don't put forth the same effort that my fellow gifted students and I do? It's not fair.
Maybe it's because I get my education at this school [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suncoast_High_School], but a lot of the plans put forward by the people that have posted on this thread would not have the desired effect on me. I don't need better teachers. The cream of the crop teaches at my school. It was the same in middle school because all of the best teachers taught the Advanced classes (the ones I was in). I haven't had to deal with a bad teacher since elementary school. My classes are already an hour and thirty minutes each. I already have to get up at 5:30 and usually don't return until twelve hours later. I already apply myself enough that I actually learn in my classes, get good grades, and will probably be headed off to university in the near future. I definitely don't need to be punished because of the lack of willingness to learn of other students in the country.I am going to continue to abuse italics for dramatic effect. I would happily join my classmates in protest of these education reforms being put into effect.
Maybe it's because I get my education at this school [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suncoast_High_School], but a lot of the plans put forward by the people that have posted on this thread would not have the desired effect on me. I don't need better teachers. The cream of the crop teaches at my school. It was the same in middle school because all of the best teachers taught the Advanced classes (the ones I was in). I haven't had to deal with a bad teacher since elementary school. My classes are already an hour and thirty minutes each. I already have to get up at 5:30 and usually don't return until twelve hours later. I already apply myself enough that I actually learn in my classes, get good grades, and will probably be headed off to university in the near future. I definitely don't need to be punished because of the lack of willingness to learn of other students in the country.
Going by your plan, I would be at school 15-17 hours a day, added the 3-4 hours of homework, and about an hour in the morning, plus 30 minute bus ride each way, I'm getting 2-4 hours of sleep a night. The voices wouldn't like that.LyonLee said:
I remember in my Frnech II class Junior Year studying the way the French did their schooling.
IIRC, they had shorter year-round breaks instead of an agrarian Summer break cycle, and the same amount of hours but later in the day.
I like that system alot better.
Also, the public school system in Alabama is a joke, and IMO honors is where standard should be and the AP classes are at about the right level.
Extracurricular activities is what kills, not the classes.
When every college is hounding you because they want a list of ten thousand clubs on your resume, or they need to see "leadership skills" and you try to juggle three clubs with your schoolwork plus having a social life/or personal time it destroys your time management so you move to energy drinks and not getting enough sleep.
These are probably the same people who are going to abuse Adderral and Dex so they can get through college.
IIRC, they had shorter year-round breaks instead of an agrarian Summer break cycle, and the same amount of hours but later in the day.
I like that system alot better.
Also, the public school system in Alabama is a joke, and IMO honors is where standard should be and the AP classes are at about the right level.
Extracurricular activities is what kills, not the classes.
When every college is hounding you because they want a list of ten thousand clubs on your resume, or they need to see "leadership skills" and you try to juggle three clubs with your schoolwork plus having a social life/or personal time it destroys your time management so you move to energy drinks and not getting enough sleep.
These are probably the same people who are going to abuse Adderral and Dex so they can get through college.
We don't need more hours we need better teachers ans have to kill half the population of dumbasses. That would solve all of our problems.[sup]and you know im right[/sup]
O.T. Acually in my school we WANT more hours. The reason is because we want a study hall and a "recess" (spelling? i havent spelled that word in like 10 years) of sorts. You know a time to go out side and talk to friends.
Plus with the study hall we wouldnt have homework, so its a win/win. This would only add like an hour to our day as well.
O.T. Acually in my school we WANT more hours. The reason is because we want a study hall and a "recess" (spelling? i havent spelled that word in like 10 years) of sorts. You know a time to go out side and talk to friends.
Plus with the study hall we wouldnt have homework, so its a win/win. This would only add like an hour to our day as well.
High School in South Georgia operates on two schedules period and block. In period scheduling you generally have 45 minutes in 6 classes I think. In block scheduling you generally have 4 classes that are 90 minutes long. My school uses block and at some point in the 90 minutes the whole class shuts of and goofs around. Adding more time is pointless to me.
Problems I've run into from my experience in public schools.
1) Students who aren't learning at the same pace as everyone else are pushed along if they are ready or not, thanks to the No Child Left Behind Act.
2) Items learned are repeated, repeatedly(yes I know that's bad English, but it stresses the point). Learning the same thing like it's brand new to the students every year is both dumb and unnecessary. That's why the school systems should have classes that go back to basics for those who need it, not for all.
3)Most school systems are top heavy. Administrators make 100-150 thousand dollars a year. Teachers make maybe 35 in my area. Too many administrators mean more secretaries eating up the budget gotten from the tax payers that should go to finding qualified candidates for teaching positions. On top of that the administrators don't listen to the children or their parents about the needs of each individual. You're supposed to be an individual an easily herd-able flock, which is never the case with a true individual. Schedules are supposed to give "basics" and in that, classes that people have a hard time relating to (such as history or math) are forced on them at a level which they can or do not want to learn on.
4)Classes are boring, most of the time not relating to skills actually needed in today's world, using information that most people don't want to know, or even preparing people for post-secondary education. In no school is it told to you that life will kick you repeatedly until you have had enough and decide to do something about it, ie. nothing is handed to you.
5) Students have no incentives anymore to do well in school. College for most is something that's too far away to grasp for middle school age kids, who learn to do nothing and get by. By the time high school comes around they no longer apply themselves to anything. Parents are also to blame, as most don't give a flying fuck about their kids (shown by decreasing numbers at school open house), as long as they are happy.
1) Students who aren't learning at the same pace as everyone else are pushed along if they are ready or not, thanks to the No Child Left Behind Act.
2) Items learned are repeated, repeatedly(yes I know that's bad English, but it stresses the point). Learning the same thing like it's brand new to the students every year is both dumb and unnecessary. That's why the school systems should have classes that go back to basics for those who need it, not for all.
3)Most school systems are top heavy. Administrators make 100-150 thousand dollars a year. Teachers make maybe 35 in my area. Too many administrators mean more secretaries eating up the budget gotten from the tax payers that should go to finding qualified candidates for teaching positions. On top of that the administrators don't listen to the children or their parents about the needs of each individual. You're supposed to be an individual an easily herd-able flock, which is never the case with a true individual. Schedules are supposed to give "basics" and in that, classes that people have a hard time relating to (such as history or math) are forced on them at a level which they can or do not want to learn on.
4)Classes are boring, most of the time not relating to skills actually needed in today's world, using information that most people don't want to know, or even preparing people for post-secondary education. In no school is it told to you that life will kick you repeatedly until you have had enough and decide to do something about it, ie. nothing is handed to you.
5) Students have no incentives anymore to do well in school. College for most is something that's too far away to grasp for middle school age kids, who learn to do nothing and get by. By the time high school comes around they no longer apply themselves to anything. Parents are also to blame, as most don't give a flying fuck about their kids (shown by decreasing numbers at school open house), as long as they are happy.
Our high school had 7 x 35 min classes when I started in grade 8. By grade nine, they changed it to 5 x 1hr classes which was alot better. You learnt nothing in 35mins, whereas in 1hr the teachers could cover more ground in their lessons. Mind you, in Australia not many schools have a locker system which means carrying every text book for each lesson in your bag on your back, shoulder etc. I liked longer classes.hxcfreak said:
I didn't study a single minute during my two years of American public school and my lowest grade at the end of either year was a 94 or 95. Hell, I even had overmanaman said:
And I did take the right classes. PE, because I had been mislead to believe that there would be actual physical excertion (Was I wrong. Everyone trained and dieted for weeks before a mile-long timed run we had. I did shit about it and still finished in under 5 minutes, while everyone was 10 minutes in and fighting for every breath of air), Art, because I love art, although all we learned that year was a bit of colour theory, perspective and colouring on pastels. I took Computing, no complaints there. Lots of MS Office and HTML. My other optional class was... er... right, I can't remember its name, but it was meant to help you figure out what career to choose. It consisted of one semester listening to music, and another semester getting really damn good at Flight Simulator.
Mind you, I was top o' the class in every class I took (even English, which, being a foreigner, was a bit unexpected), and they were all High-level/Advanced classes. I finished the "Advanced Mathematics" course book in about 5 hours, while everyone else took 5 months. Those 5 hours include having to learn your nonsensical measuring system.
A test I took told me I read like someone who's at college-level education, which, judging by how little English I knew then compared to what I know now, means your colleges have really, really low expectations.
I learn plenty from my school. Im smart and so are most people. But for some people in my school they just don't give a crap about what their grade is and thats the problem
And this is the reason why America has fallen from first in the WORLD to damn near last in all sciences and math education. Other countries 3rd graders are doing what our 7th graders are. That's why you see tons of foreign doctors, scientists, ect. in skilled positions.Clashero said: