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Amnestic

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Scrythe said:
[HEADING=2]The Inquisition would like to have a few words with all of you...[/HEADING]

Psh. The Astartes answer to no one but the All Father and their Primarch. Not the Inquisition, not the Ecclesiarchy, not the Imperial Guard.
 

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Cajt said:
Simo Häyhä.
This. The guy was a beast in human form. The Finnish in general had some really badass fighters during WW2.
While it took place at the same time, the Winter war isn't actually considered a theatre of WWII.
 

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Amnestic said:
Scrythe said:
[HEADING=2]The Inquisition would like to have a few words with all of you...[/HEADING]

Psh. The Astartes answer to no one but the All Father and their Primarch. Not the Inquisition, not the Ecclesiarchy, not the Imperial Guard.
All of the primarchs are either damned, lost, or dead, and His Holiness is but a mere rotting husk of a man. The Astartes cower under the Inquisition, as everyone else in the Imperium would. Only the Inquisition could order the complete Exterminatus of an entire system by simply licking the dirt and shouting "HERESAY!"
 

Amnestic

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Scrythe said:
Amnestic said:
Scrythe said:
[HEADING=2]The Inquisition would like to have a few words with all of you...[/HEADING]

Psh. The Astartes answer to no one but the All Father and their Primarch. Not the Inquisition, not the Ecclesiarchy, not the Imperial Guard.
All of the primarchs are either damned, lost, or dead, and His Holiness is but a mere rotting husk of a man. The Astartes cower under the Inquisition, as everyone else in the Imperium would. Only the Inquisition could order the complete Exterminatus of an entire system by simply licking the dirt and shouting "HERESAY!"
Russ isn't lost. He's just absent at the moment. He's in the Eye of Terror with the 13th Company. He'll be back when he needs to be. The 13th Company isn't 'lost' either, they met Ragnar Blackmane during the battle on the mirror-world of Charys.

Guilliman, Primarch of the Ultramrines isn't dead, just in stasis. He's meant to be healing as well, so it's likely we'll see him return before too long. He was the high commander of the Astartes forces as well, so he's definitely a force to be reckoned with.

Lion El'Jonson of the Dark Angels is similarly asleep as well until he's needed.

As for the All Father, his throne is weakening, which means we'll likely see him emerging once more to bitchslap the Inquisition for not following his instructions properly.

The Inquisition couldn't hope to stand against the full might of the Astartes no matter how much they might want to. They'd never risk open warfare. Such an act would be tantamount to suicide.
 
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Amnestic said:
Besides, the Sororitas and the Ecclesiarchy are going to get a little bit of a shock when the Emperor wakes up and they realise that he is not, in fact, a God but rather a man.

A badass Chaos slaughtering man with which 'superhuman' is an understatement, but a man nonetheless.
*cough* He is actually a warp creature. So technically he is a daemon of chaos. Aint that one big ol mind fuck. But yeah, he is gonna be soo maaaaaad at the entire Imperium when he comes back.
But what does that matter, the necrons are going to annihilate every living creature in the galaxy.
 

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Death_Korps_Kommissar said:
Avykins said:
Amnestic said:
Besides, the Sororitas and the Ecclesiarchy are going to get a little bit of a shock when the Emperor wakes up and they realise that he is not, in fact, a God but rather a man.

A badass Chaos slaughtering man with which 'superhuman' is an understatement, but a man nonetheless.
*cough* He is actually a warp creature. So technically he is a daemon of chaos. Aint that one big ol mind fuck. But yeah, he is gonna be soo maaaaaad at the entire Imperium when he comes back.
But what does that matter, the necrons are going to annihilate every living creature in the galaxy.
I'd put my money on the 'nids personally. If even one spore makes it away from a destroyed Hive Fleet it can simply start rebuilding itself. The 'nids are an unstoppable, never ending tide.
 

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Amnestic said:
Scrythe said:
Amnestic said:
Scrythe said:
[HEADING=2]The Inquisition would like to have a few words with all of you...[/HEADING]

Psh. The Astartes answer to no one but the All Father and their Primarch. Not the Inquisition, not the Ecclesiarchy, not the Imperial Guard.
All of the primarchs are either damned, lost, or dead, and His Holiness is but a mere rotting husk of a man. The Astartes cower under the Inquisition, as everyone else in the Imperium would. Only the Inquisition could order the complete Exterminatus of an entire system by simply licking the dirt and shouting "HERESAY!"
Russ isn't lost. He's just absent at the moment. He's in the Eye of Terror with the 13th Company. He'll be back when he needs to be. The 13th Company isn't 'lost' either, they met Ragnar Blackmane during the battle on the mirror-world of Charys.

Guilliman, Primarch of the Ultramrines isn't dead, just in stasis. He's meant to be healing as well, so it's likely we'll see him return before too long. He was the high commander of the Astartes forces as well, so he's definitely a force to be reckoned with.

Lion El'Jonson of the Dark Angels is similarly asleep as well until he's needed.

As for the All Father, his throne is weakening, which means we'll likely see him emerging once more to bitchslap the Inquisition for not following his instructions properly.

The Inquisition couldn't hope to stand against the full might of the Astartes no matter how much they might want to. They'd never risk open warfare. Such an act would be tantamount to suicide.
Let's not forget Jaghatai Kahn, Currently dandering around the Webway showing those Dark Eldar the TRUE meaning of pain. The man led an armoured division out of the imperial palace mid siege to reclaim the 2 starports providing Chaos with their reinforcements, I think it's only a matter of time before he finds his way to the Golden Throne webway portal to kick the door down and ask just what the hell they've been doing with his dad since he left.

Vulkan's pretty much been prophecised to come back and kick some arse, so sucks to be Abaddon.

Corax... Well, yeah, he's probably dead. A shame filled, guilty emo in the Eye Of Terror trying to avenge the Drop Site Massacre. He doen't really stand a chance.

So in conclusion, there are 5 or 6 primarches ready to come back and rip the enemies of the Imperium a new one, and what the the Eccliarchy have? Some tart with wings. What of the Ordo Xenos? They RELY on the astartes to bolster their ranks. The Daemon Hunters? Grey Knights are all well and good until you realize their number. The Inquisition is a schoolyard bully, running his mouth until he comes home each night to the Council of Terra. The Council who will be on their knees, begging for forgiveness when the Emperor is reborn. Reborn with the love, compassion and general niceness he cast aside shortly before melting Horus, all rolled into one, all pwning, "I will ptotect humanity and the imperial truth" ball of righteous arse kickage.

On topic, The Royal Marine Commandos go through the standard SAS training, and THENSOME, so that's probably gonna help.
 

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http://www.cracked.com/article_17019_5-real-life-soldiers-who-make-rambo-look-like-pussy.html

Everyone on this list.
This. Although, the SAS are total badasses.
 

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A) It's not like he did it in a day, he had plenty of contact with the Finnish army, they would have given him ammo.
B) Those snipers were posted if different areas and times. The majority of amazing Russian snipers emerged at Stalingrad.
Häyhä did indeed have contact with the army. Of course he did, he was just a trooper, not a special forces operative. He was a farmer, actually. He scored those sniper kills within 105 days. Which is a much greater rate than any of the soviets. (the numbers presented by headshotcatcher are made up) In addition to his sniping, Häyhä scored ~200 kills with a submachinegun. Here's a list:
http://www.snipercentral.com/snipers.htm#WWII

The russians tried artillery, air stikes, their own snipers and armoured assaults to take Häyhä out, but didn't succeed. I personally met Simo Häyhä in 1997. Although he was in a pretty bad shape, he was still ready to grab his rifle and try to do the same again.
TheRealCJ said:
While it took place at the same time, the Winter war isn't actually considered a theatre of WWII.
Quite right. Nothing much else was goning on in the world at that time and Finland was not allied wiht any major participants of the war. (even though the western countries did send some help)

LimaBravo said:
Listen not to detract from Finlands impact on the Eastern front but .... the Fins didnt kill anyone Finland did. Extreme weather & conscript Russian troops took its toll and probably accounted for most of the deaths. Its a real impressive number but doesnt indicate fighting vigour or strength in any way.
read what one Finnish man did on that list, and say that again

Yeah he sniped some people. Well done /golfclap. How exactly does killing people who are unaware & not firing back count as fighting vigour ?

If you took his rifle away what would he have done then ? Apart from make the snow yellow.

Pick that little man up & drop him into the renaissance or the iron age & watch him snipe his way outta that LOL.

Now take your average Gurhka & drop em in any conflict from here to 100 years in the future & youve got them beat. You know why there are no famous Gurhka snipers ? Cause their good enough to get close with the knife & bare hands.
Now listen. The finns killed so many soviets duiring their massed charges the bodies formed little hills. True, many soviets froze to death. But, as recorded by BOTH sides, the finns accounted for incredible amounts of russian casualities.

Not only because the finns were quite determined, but also because the russians used tactics originating from the 19th century: massed infantry charges over open ground at machine gun positions. Finns made the russian numbers work for nothing in the woods where the "motti" was succesfully used. Also the outdated ruskie tanks (T-26) were easily disabled by cogging logs to the tracks and smashing a molotof cocktail to the air intakes or climbing on them and twisting the mashine guns with crowbars. (visit the tank museum in Parola, Finland and see for yourself)

Now what the hell is this nonsense about dropping Häyhä to the sixteen hundreds? This thread is about badass soldiers, and the fact that in his time Häyhä was one of the best and hardiest of soldiers does make him quite badass. He wasn't a coward: going alone in front of the front lines with russian aretillery raining down on you takes balls. The russians even gave him a nickname "Белая Смерть", Belaya smert, "the white death".

Let's have ot your way: Let's drop a Gurhka on the karelian isthmus in January 1940. It's -30c, snowing heavily and it's getting dark at 15:00. Artillery is going hot on both sides, the air is full of lead. I bet your Gurhka wouldn't make it. And that really is the point: you can only evaluate soldiers' achievements in their original context. Gurhkas are badass indeed but they don't make anyone else less badass.

Finally on topic: Of all time, the most notable warriors would include Spartan (greek) hoplites, Macedonian pikemen, Armenian kataphracts, Roman petorians, Mongolian horsemen, the medieval kinights as a whole, British Highlander redcoats, the german stormtroopers and any fighter pilot of WW1.

Then in WW2: US paratroopers, the RA(A)F, the SS (you can't admire them, but neither can you say they were bad soldiers), The SAS(still today), the FAF, Soviets who endured Stalingrad and the US marines and the UK royal marines(still today).

Quite a long list, and probably the most notable are the SAS and all fighter pilots, ever.
 
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Amnestic said:
Death_Korps_Kommissar said:
Avykins said:
Amnestic said:
Besides, the Sororitas and the Ecclesiarchy are going to get a little bit of a shock when the Emperor wakes up and they realise that he is not, in fact, a God but rather a man.

A badass Chaos slaughtering man with which 'superhuman' is an understatement, but a man nonetheless.
*cough* He is actually a warp creature. So technically he is a daemon of chaos. Aint that one big ol mind fuck. But yeah, he is gonna be soo maaaaaad at the entire Imperium when he comes back.
But what does that matter, the necrons are going to annihilate every living creature in the galaxy.
I'd put my money on the 'nids personally. If even one spore makes it away from a destroyed Hive Fleet it can simply start rebuilding itself. The 'nids are an unstoppable, never ending tide.
Yes but when all the necrons finally awaken, they will outnumber or be equal to the nids, there are untold millions of them drmant still and, should one get destroyed it gets teleported back to the tomb to be rebuilt, they are basically unstoppable.
 

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GruntOwner said:
On topic, The Royal Marine Commandos go through the standard SAS training, and THENSOME, so that's probably gonna help.
Did a Marine tell you that by any chance? Cause they don't, it's pretty much the same as the training in all UK forces, except they train for a few extra weeks with the M4.
 

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Avykins said:
Flour said:
LitigationJackson said:
umm...

the Adeptus Astartes? :D
History... and the Adepta Sororitas would own them.
You take that back heretic! Adepta Sororitas are just normal chicks in power armour. No where near as strong or fast as The Emperors finest. The finest genetically altered soldiers the universe has ever seen.
Anyway what do you mean history? They exist even now. We are just a tiny speck of a world waiting for The Emperors grace to descend upon us.
But then shouldn't he already BE here seeing as this is the age he was meant to be have been born into?