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Nickolai77

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In the modern world, i would say the SAS- If you read about their history is quite astonshing what they have done. Some of you remember a mission from Call of Duty 4 where you had to hold out against a huge attack by the ultranationlists and fall back to the farm? That to me is very similar to something that happend to the SAS in Oman a couple of decades ago where four SAS men held back a force of insurgants numbering in their hunderds. They have also had many sucesses against insurgants in Oman and Malaysia- i'm guessing there playing a key role in the current Afganistan war today.

Historically, the Romans where pretty bad-ass, they conqured and held for around 300 years most of Europe- no one else has been able to match their sucesses, the Romans where tactical genius's, and brutally disiplined.

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When I say "Crusaders" keep in mind I am talking about a combined European force here though (held together largely through religion) not the force of one paticular nation. The Crusades being one of the few things that has gotten all of Europe working together, and the results were absolutly terrifying when you get down to it. One of the more interesting things about the more successful crusades (there was more than one, and several were less than resounding successes) is that nobody should have ever been able to achieve that under any circumstances given the tech level.

This is incidently why when people compare say a European Knight to a Samurai or whatever I tend to think it's a bad joke when the conclusion comes out in favor of the Samurai or whatever.
I would also consider the Crusader knights to be comparable to the Roman Legions. Considering their situation, they did very well indeed. Can anyone name any historically notable military sucesses of the samaurai?
 

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headshotcatcher said:
Spitfire175 said:
headshotcatcher said:
Spitfire175 said:
(the numbers presented by headshotcatcher are made up)
Why are you so sure?
Multiple sources say so. Many encyclopedias, wikipedia, quite a few documentaries and a large number of books.
Have any sources? (genuinely curious)
That Mikhail Surkov is probably just a result of Soviet propaganda. At least that's what the guys at Wikipedia think. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mikhail_Surkov]
 

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Pillypill said:
2nd) Spartans, 'cos 300 of them whent to battle 10s of thousands of persians, at the battle of thermopilie.
Well, 300 Spartans, about 700 of their slaves and 10,000 Athenians. Interesting to note that, I believe it was the Athenians, had a batallion made up of many, many pairs of gay lovers. This batallion was once outnumbered by spartans and still kicked their asses.
 

headshotcatcher

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Unknower said:
headshotcatcher said:
Spitfire175 said:
headshotcatcher said:
Spitfire175 said:
(the numbers presented by headshotcatcher are made up)
Why are you so sure?
Multiple sources say so. Many encyclopedias, wikipedia, quite a few documentaries and a large number of books.
Have any sources? (genuinely curious)
That Mikhail Surkov is probably just a result of Soviet propaganda. At least that's what the guys at Wikipedia think. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mikhail_Surkov]
Ah so thats why I couldn't find the Wiki article on Mikhail Surkov but that doesn't negate the other 6 or so that I posted + the snipers on your link
 

Wadders

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GruntOwner said:
On topic, The Royal Marine Commandos go through the standard SAS training, and THENSOME, so that's probably gonna help.
They don't. Simple as.

On topic, to be a little different I'll say the Gurkha Regiments of the British Army. Born in Nepal, trained in the UK, and kicking ass all over the world! They have to be some of the best modern warriors around for commitment, natural courage and pure awesomeness.

This series can explain better than I can. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZMHwKWNRQY&feature=related

EDIT: that series focuses more on the current controversy in the UK over Ghurkas rights. the video i was going to link was about their selection, training, history and combat, but due to the ever increasing Fascism Youtube is showing, the account of the guy who posted it has been suspended ¬_¬ Fuckers.
 

Spitfire175

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Unknower said:
headshotcatcher said:
Spitfire175 said:
headshotcatcher said:
Spitfire175 said:
(the numbers presented by headshotcatcher are made up)
Why are you so sure?
Multiple sources say so. Many encyclopedias, wikipedia, quite a few documentaries and a large number of books.
Have any sources? (genuinely curious)
That Mikhail Surkov is probably just a result of Soviet propaganda. At least that's what the guys at Wikipedia think. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mikhail_Surkov]
Damn, you were faster than me writing this here.
 

Spitfire175

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headshotcatcher said:
Spitfire175 said:
headshotcatcher said:
Spitfire175 said:
(the numbers presented by headshotcatcher are made up)
Why are you so sure?
Multiple sources say so. Many encyclopedias, wikipedia, quite a few documentaries and a large number of books.
Have any sources? (genuinely curious)
Here are just a few:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sniper (notable individuals)
http://www.snipercountry.com/SnipHistory.asp#SimoHayha this would state Häyhä as the most succesful

Go to your local library and seek tomes about warfare, I can't really name any particualr ones without digging back to my bookshelves myself.

Also, take note of the soviet propaganda on the matter: they created some nonexistant supersnipers to boost morale and exaggerated numbers in reports. No doubt some of them got close to ~500 kills, they were incredibly talented. But at the moment the info available says Häyhä scores the highest with 505 confirmed.
 

Toaster Hunter

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GruntOwner said:
Pillypill said:
2nd) Spartans, 'cos 300 of them whent to battle 10s of thousands of persians, at the battle of thermopilie.
Interesting to note that, I believe it was the Athenians, had a batallion made up of many, many pairs of gay lovers. This batallion was once outnumbered by spartans and still kicked their asses.
The battalion of lovers was the Sacred Band of Thebes, not Athens. Alexander the Great held them in high regard, saying that they were one of the toughest foes he ever fought.
 
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Let's see...sniper with a total of 505 confirmed kills with his sniper rifle, and another 200 with an SMG within 100 days? Was so feared by the Soviets that they sent in artillery strikes and counter-snipers with the sole purpose of eliminating him? Surviving a hit from a bullet that wrecked his jaw and blew up his left cheek, after only a week of unconsciousness? A man who said, when asked if he had any regrets about killing people, "I did what I was told to as well as I could."? I believe Simo Hayha (can't do umlauts) belongs on the list.
 

Lonan

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I would say Vietnam soldiers, who were able to fight American forces which had artillery support, ariel support, and possibly better weapons until the Americans were forced to pull out in defeat. That's how you frikken do it. Most of the awesomeness was the man leading them though (I forget his name) who was an absolute genius, and sent the yankees packing. I don't know if the Vietnamese were outnumbered, but I wouldn't be surprised. They were just incredible.
 

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EDIT: Nah, changed my mind.
The Romans were cooler. Very well organized and ahead of their time.