Most Obvious Plot Holes (spoilers ahoy!)

[Limzz]

The only one I can think of is The Dark Knight (I know, it's not really gaming, whatever.)
As much as I love that movie, it's just littered with inconsistencies.
Why would Joker give two different versions of how he got his scars?
When would he find time rig two entire boats?
How can he join a soldier parade without anybody noticing the big lip scars?
Why is Batman taking the heat for Two-Face?
And most importantly: Why is defeating ten henchmen single-handedly more difficult then a single person with a knife? Or a dog, for that matter?

EDIT: I found a gaming-related one:

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If Isaac's wife, from Dead Space, is a product of his imagination: HOW COULD SHE HAVE OPENED A DOOR FOR HIM VIA A COMPUTER NETWORK?!

The stories were part of his psychosis. He had billions of dollars I'm sure he could figure it out. Makeup. The city's morale. The Joker has skills. I declare fail upon you, good sir. How about this one: What happened up in the party where the Joker was after Batman saved whatsherbitch?

 

[NeutralMunchHotel]

Dead Space had a pretty unforgivable one.

Spoiler

If Isaac possessed any intelligence at all he could have just looked at the first letter of every chatper to see that "NICOLE IS DEAD" instead of being surprised by it later.

Fool.

Since when does the main character know that they are in a game much less what the chapters are called

*whoosh*

Phoenix Wright suffers from many of these. I can't remember an individual one, but in a game where you have to think how a scene played out like that there are bound to be many.

 

[WorldCritic]

So many Heavy Rain plot holes.

 

[Gibbo1489]

Modern warfare 2 SPOILERS!

In response to all of the MW2 posts (although the whole story doesn't make a lot of sense) I would say that the major hole is that the attack on the airport even takes place. At the beginning of that mission your boss (the guy who betrays you in the end) tells you how hard it has been to get you secretly into Makarov's group thing and also how much of a total tosser Makarov is (i.e. already known to responsible for acts of genocide e.t.c.) so why don't you just shoot Makarov in the back of the head. I mean assuming you know that the attack is going to happen, and it must be pretty obvious when your rolling up to an airport with enough guns and ammunition to make Stalin blush, then any normal human being and especially a trained soldier would kill Makarov and his mates when the opportunity arose. I mean they don't need any evidence of Makarov doing something bad to order an assassination of him, they already know he's an enemy and this is a prime moment to kill him and save 100s of lives. Didn't make a lot of sense to me.

I assume you've never heard of the concept of "infiltration", "undercover agent", "immunity" or "sting operation"?

Man first post and already someone responds with an intelligence insult, not a great start to this forum.

MW2 SPOILERS!

OK so first of all what is the point of your INFILTRATION to this group of terrorists? Now admittedly if we take the rest of the game into account then it was the overarching scheme of the military commander to set you up in the airport and provide the spark for the Russian invasion but he was unlikely to tell you this so we the simplest option would be that you were told that the government wanted a man on the inside of his operation. In this case you might not want to kill Makarov straight away as he could give you more valuable information. However it is a bit of a jump to say that some future information he may give you out weighs the lives of 100s of civilians, therefore assassination of Makarov before the event would become the obvious course of action when you found out about the plan.

Also Makarov is a known terrorist, arms dealer, mercenary and general bastard so it is unlikely that he would have any kind of IMMUNITY, and any country known to be harbouring him would face huge political and probably military actions from the countries in which he has been known to opperate. If the Russians were openly in support of Makarov's actions then that would amount to an act of war on many other nations and would make them a target for response so it's unlikely that the killing of Makarov would lead to any response from Russia.

Also I'm quite aware that you are an UNDERCOVER AGENT, but that doesn't mean you sit on your arse not doing anything, its exactly these kind of attacks that you would be expected to stop by being an UNDERCOVER AGENT. And the phrase STING OPERATION usually involves catching someone buying or handling an illegal item but due to the fact that you have documented intelligence of Makarov's activities you don't really need to catch him doing anything to justify his assassination.

 

[Tdc2182]

Why would Joker give two different versions of how he got his scars?

Sorry if you have allready been told, but Jokers thing is that he lies about everything. His girlfriend in the tv show, Harley quinn, only became his partner in crime because of all the BS he told. She thought he was a damaged soul, when in all reality, he was just using her.

He constantly lies about them either to intimidate his opponents, or gain sympathy.

 

[azncutthroat]

I assume you've never heard of the concept of "infiltration", "undercover agent", "immunity" or "sting operation"?

Man first post and already someone responds with an intelligence insult, not a great start to this forum.

If you wanted a welcome mat, you should have posted an introduction thread.

But for what's it worth, Welcome to the Escapist!

MW2 SPOILERS!

OK so first of all what is the point of your INFILTRATION to this group of terrorists? Now admittedly if we take the rest of the game into account then it was the overarching scheme of the military commander to set you up in the airport and provide the spark for the Russian invasion but he was unlikely to tell you this so we the simplest option would be that you were told that the government wanted a man on the inside of his operation.

Also I'm quite aware that you are an UNDERCOVER AGENT, but that doesn't mean you sit on your arse not doing anything, its exactly these kind of attacks that you would be expected to stop by being an UNDERCOVER AGENT. And the phrase STING OPERATION usually involves catching someone buying or handling an illegal item but due to the fact that you have documented intelligence of Makarov's activities you don't really need to catch him doing anything to justify his assassination.

Why are you criticizing the presumed sting operation when you already know it was a conspiracy?

Unless you're here to jump on the MW2 hate wagon?

 

[notyouraveragejoe]

Spoiler

Also, if you can the thoughts of the character you play as, how come when you play as Scott his thoughts are always treated like he doesn't know who the killer is, despite he himself being the killer. I can understand why you wouldn't want him to be thinking something like 'Oh shit, she's on to me that I drowned her kid', but surely there must have been a way to get around

And thirdly, what's with the men in balaclavas who attack Madison in her dream sequence, and who she has visions of in one of the 'bad' endings.

And really, what police department just freaking opens fire on a man who has not even been proven to be guilty of the murders.

Couldn't answer the Ethan blacking out one but with the thoughts:

Spoiler

If you check a lot of thoughts have a second interpretation when you know Scott's the killer. For example in the store when he's thinking about his asthma it could be that he's a little stressed with talking to the father of one of his victims

For Madison's dreams:

She was having nightmares. It happens I mean she was stressed, had dealt with serial killers before and is an investigative journalist. As a journalist she's got a lot of knowledge on crimes. That means she'd likely have nightmares about getting attacked herself. As such it isn't that huge plot hole.]

Lastly:

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Blake is psychotic. He is in charge. I mean he wanted to open fire on the religious guy and he's pretty much insane. I mean he's even suspected of being the murderer at some point. So it isn't surprising that he'd be fine with getting Ethan killed

I personally have to say (this is from film) the first Transformers film. Where did the police car (I think its Barricade) go? I mean seriously he's there one minute and then...he's gone. Disappeared. For the whole film. Argh!

 

[Archemetis]

I've been told I'm some kind of freak for this one.

But I saw the Betrayal coming in Bioshock 1...

I just couldn't believe a guy would continued to be that polite with his requests even AFTER his family has exploded...

'Would ye' koindly...'

 

[Tdc2182]

Harry Motherf*ckin Potter

Last Book

Harry has been (apparantly) killed by Voldemort. Voldemort doesn't want to fall for the same trick twice, and decides to send someone over to check the corpse for signs of life...

Who Does He Send?

Option No. 1 - Bellatrix Whatsherface Bonar Carter. Hot Goth Chick Woman, basically. Fanatically loyal, hates Harry to the core, will instantly and happily murder Harry if he IS alive, and will never betray/lie to Voldy.

Option No. 2 - Mrs. Malfoy, the mother of the child Voldermort has been manipulating, abusing and enslaving. A woman who hates Voldemort more than anything, and one whom Voldy dosen't know that well. She could quite easily betray Voldemort in the hope of Harry saving Malfoy.

He picks No. 2

She goes over, finds Harry is alive, asks him if Malfoy is alive, lies to voldemort and says Harry's dead.

Voldemort belives her and picks up Harry with his wand. Even if she HAD been telling the truth, Voldey has neglected to check himself, especially considering the boy in question is now hovering a foot above his head and is very easy to just check for a pulse or something.

It was a needlessly long and drawn-out book beforehand, but afterwards it was just plain stupid.

That series had so much luck involved that Frano Selak would role his eyes.

But god damn I loved it.

 

[Woodsey]

Spoiler

How the hell did Neo get superpowers in the real world? He had his eyes burned out of their sockets but he could still see Agent Smith. The only possible explanation is that either they were still plugged into the Matrix and didn't know it, or the Wachowski Brothers just said "Fuck it," and I'm going with the second...

It gets a little complicated - partly because when the Oracle explains something, she explains it a way that Neo will understand but the audience rarely do.

Looking about a bit though, the idea is that Neo was created to counter the tiny population that rejected the Matrix. When he was supposed fulfill the Path of the One (which he didn't because he went to save Trinity) it does something to momentarily make the Matrix accepted by 100% of the population, allowing for a "system reboot". If they couldn't reboot, then the Matrix would essentially crash and kill all the humans.

Neo therefore is basically a System Administrator inside the Matrix, meaning he's linked to the Source (which is the mainframe for both the Matrix and the machine city I think). As he's linked to the Source, he's linked to all the machines as well, which allows him to make them all spontaneously combust. Whether that mean's he's 100% human or not I don't know.

As for his "blind-sight" power, I think he can only see things related to the machines (he sees the fields and pipelines in the machine city but can't see anything when they go above the clouds). When he sees Bane, he sees him as Smith because he's gone from the Matrix to the real world. He can't see Trinity when they crash because she's not related to the machines (and unlike Smith-Bane she goes from the read world to the Matrix).

I think that's about it - they really don't spend enough time on it in the films, and I've theorised a little bit.

 

[chromewarriorXIII]

Heavy Rain. That's all I'm saying. If you've played it, you know what I'm talking about.

Pissed me off no end!

I don't know which one you are thinking of, but the one that pisses me off is this:

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How could Scott Shelby have murdered the type writer shop owner when if I was playing as him at the time? There may have been some time lapse, but I remember the man walking into the back room, you walk around a little, then you say you are going to check on him, then Bam! He's dead.

I think I can help with that one. The way I see it, the game is a sequence of memories of the characters. When you're playing Shelby, you see what he remembers, or you see the game how he sees it. You don't see him murder the typewriter owner person because he deliberately forgets (or tries to forget) about it so he can act innocent; which is what a lot of psychopaths do to maintain the facade of innocence.

That's just my take on it, if you don't agree, maybe you could come up with one, I think it would be interesting to hear it

Well, that makes more sense. Still kind of ruined it for me, because even if it a series of memories, than my actions aren't making a difference because everything has already happened.

 

[No_Remainders]

Watchmen movie: There was nothing for the comedian to discover to drive him over the edge, thus no reason for his murder, thus no reason for anything in that movie to happen. Hooray!

Thats what an actual factual plot hole looks like, kids. Citizen Kain is also a pretty glaring one.

You don't get an opinion if you only saw the movie. Read the graphic novel, then come back and have an opinion.

OT: It's just got to be the numerous amount of stupid fails in MW2. There are actually too many to list.

 

[squidbuddy99]

Kingdom Hearts.

That's it

It's just really fucked up

Speaking of which, how was Organization XIII evil in the first place?

 

[Tsunimo]

Splinter Cell: Conviction has two massive holes:

Spoiler: Open at your peril

Secondly, why would all the Splinter Cells suddenly go psycho like they did? it's established canon that all agents of 3E have to have been special forces operatives at one time or another, for an extended duration, yet they all attack the white house without remorse. Attacking Sam I can understand (he was a rogue agent), but why would they do something like that?

Maybe i can answer it...
Wen you live working for someplace like that, you would learn to obey without too much thought... even if some of them were doubtful i'm sure someone would be able to come up with a story of why they have to do this...
Well thats my guess anyway

 

[JaredXE]

Pretty much all the Harry Potter movies past the second. Huge, GAPING plot holes that make no sense and detract from the fun of the movie.

 

[No_Remainders]

Watchmen movie: There was nothing for the comedian to discover to drive him over the edge, thus no reason for his murder, thus no reason for anything in that movie to happen. Hooray!

Thats what an actual factual plot hole looks like, kids. Citizen Kain is also a pretty glaring one.

You don't get an opinion if you only saw the movie. Read the graphic novel, then come back and have an opinion.

... Its funny how ever time I point out the watchmen movie (I always hope the inclusion of the word MOVIE implies I've read the book) is a giant plot hole prompts this.

What makes it confusing is the location, characters, and objects that address this hole we're removed from the fucking movie.

Saying "The Watchmen movie" (in my opinion at least) actually implies you didn't read the book.

In any case, the movie was badly done. It just left out too many important things and had stupid, mundane parts instead of it that had little or no relevance to the plot in comparison to a lot of it that they left out.

 

[xXxTheBeastxXx]

That and any movie or video game involving any form of time travel at all.

The problem with time travel is that you assume the earth will be in the same place when you arrive as when you left. In all likelihood, the first attempts (should we ever figure it out) will have grapefruits floating somewhere in the earth's field of orbit.

Kingdom Hearts.

That's it

It's just really fucked up

Speaking of which, how was Organization XIII evil in the first place?

I will admit that there are some MASSIVE plot holes in these games, even though I really like them. As for Org. XIII, you get a little bit as to why it's evil in Birth By Sleep, but not much. Stuff about the origin of Xehanort and the first members.
But yeah. I won't deny the plot holes. Hopefully KH 3 resolves some of them.