Mass Effect 2 had a really shitty plot. the whole point of the game is to go into the center of the galaxies which is uncharted space and no body has ever gotten there, so why would you fill a ship with foot soldiers. you spend the whole game getting foot soldier but for what, up to this point we are told that no one has ever gotten through the omega 4 relay so how would we know that we would need infantry, you would get more ships not boots for the ground. we have no reason to belive there is any form of land mass which we could land or have any reason to land on. the game has as its main focus getting character for your party and only has ship upgrade as a menu, it is masily stupid. none of the character make any sense for you to pick exspet moradon who was used to counter act the collector swarms. lets also not forget that cerburas a terrist cell puts branding all over its equipment and that the alliances couldnt care less that one of there soldier cameback to life, you'd think the admiralty would want to talk to there two year dead commder and maybe he would want to talk to him. shepard could have flu into human space and talk to the human forces.
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I agree with you human. Stares upward longingly, Goodbye.deathbydeath said:
With bottled up rage, Metroid Other M's story is an insult to the entire series, and not just because of Samus' characterization. The entire storyline is nonsensical, it introduces plots that go nowhere, characters who act like total jerks who we're then supposed to feel sympathy for, and radically alters many key scientific facts of the Metroid universe in favor of more plot convenient ones. All of this could actually be forgivable if the cutscenes for the game weren't horribly long, repetitive, boring, unskippable, and if they didn't play out like a bad soap-opera.
With indignation, I like to believe it was all a crazy dream Samus was having after an acid trip.
But that's just some contrived retcon they came up for RE5. How's the rest of the series fit into this amazing scheme?Kopikatsu said:
OK, RE1 - zombie outbreak in Arklay. That's on purpose right? Umbrella destroying its facility and killing its whole staff in testing their zombies against two people? And a day before in ZERO an old Umbrella researcher was resurrected and destroyed ANOTHER facility, but that was accidental? Then in RE2 and RE3 the zombies take over town, again accidentally. All of our beloved heroes survive and have chockfull of proof in their inventories pointing to Umbrella, yet for some reason the company remains operational. Then in VERONICA it turns out Umbrella also operates in Paris... and some shitty prison island... and Antarctica... where there're also zombies... and I dunno, where's Spencer in all of this? He's mentioned now and then but we don't see him and learn his intents until RE5, which came out well over 10 years after RE1 (and it's not really the fifth game either but hey, who's counting?). It's completely out of the blue and explains where the fuck Umbrella gets all their funding (oh, some rich dude) but it makes little sense with the actions and events of the previous games. ZERO, for instance. Zombie sharks, zombie monkeys, zombie dogs, zombie everything. Are zombie sharks particularly more dangerous than regular sharks? Why experiment on fish in the first place? For giggles? There never is any mention of cross species genetics. Oh, and how remarkable that we find a fossilized virus in medieval anachronistic Spain that looks and works just about exactly as the one we accidentally developed in XXth century USA. The incoherence list goes on.Kopikatsu said:
To a certain extent, I could accept this plot if was established that Ultimecia was some sort of ultra-ambitious OCD type for whom no amount of control could ever be enough. The kind who wants to reshape the world in their image and is willing to extend "the world" far beyond a single planet at one time.FalloutJack said:
In that case, you wouldn't need a prophecy; the villain would be psychologically incapable of not going after any enemy, real or imagined. Simply the fact that the main characters exist would be reason enough, in her own mind, to hunt down and exterminate them.
But, yeah. We get a prophecy (from who, exactly?) that any confident time-altering monarch ought to laugh off. If all she wanted was to absorb the world, she has the future to do that. There's no need to change the past, it was already leading to her victory.
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Havn't played in in a while but I think it goes liek this:
Kobin is warned Sam is after him (probably by Grim) and sends a hit team. Grim helps Sam beat them and "uncover" who sent them. Sam wrecks shit, meaning Third Echelon has to step in and stop him. Kobin is involved in the EMP plot, and Third assume Sam knows something about that, seeing as Sarah's death was faked secretly by Lambert, using Kobin.
Basicly Grim manipulates Kobin into attacking Sam, so Sam will strike back and be brought in by Third Echelon, so she can manipulate Sam into helping her. When I look back over it, I really can't blame Sam for going all shooty, mood he would have been in.
Kobin is warned Sam is after him (probably by Grim) and sends a hit team. Grim helps Sam beat them and "uncover" who sent them. Sam wrecks shit, meaning Third Echelon has to step in and stop him. Kobin is involved in the EMP plot, and Third assume Sam knows something about that, seeing as Sarah's death was faked secretly by Lambert, using Kobin.
Basicly Grim manipulates Kobin into attacking Sam, so Sam will strike back and be brought in by Third Echelon, so she can manipulate Sam into helping her. When I look back over it, I really can't blame Sam for going all shooty, mood he would have been in.
Unskippable recently looked at the Amazing Spiderman game, and I was astounded at how stupid those few minutes of animation were. Mary Jane was nearly blurting out Peter's secret identity at every turn, the both of them were in the top secret part lab at a time they weren't supposed to be there (but for some reason there were people working everywhere), and rather than being kicked out they're not only given a tour of the facility by the CEO of the company, but also are asked to help out transporting a mutated monster. What the fuck? A civilian and a worker who is not supposed to be there should have been kicked out of the lab or arrested, not given a tour and asked to help handle a monster. And then even as the monster was starting to break out of its cage the scientists didn't run, they just stood there and watched as it slowly broke the glass encasing it, as though they were just waiting for it to kill them.
Who the fuck writes this stuff? It doesn't make any sense at all. That just isn't how things would have happened. That isn't how people work. The problem isn't any of the science, it's that the people do not behave like people.
Who the fuck writes this stuff? It doesn't make any sense at all. That just isn't how things would have happened. That isn't how people work. The problem isn't any of the science, it's that the people do not behave like people.
Deus Ex: Human Revolution. Probably the worst plot I've played- and I've played CoD games. The story is basically... Conspiracy! This word is meant to fill in the whole plot despite the fact that there is no real suggestion of it until it's brought up.
Basically, I hate it when that C-word is meant to be substitute for a genuine plot.
and then the illumi-feckin-nati? SERIOUSLY?
The Arklay outbreak was actually the doing of Marcus (The main antagonist of Zero) as 'revenge' for Umbrella's assassination of him. So he's responsible for both of those outbreaks, and both occurred against the wishes of Umbrella as a whole (Although both happened because of Spencer's actions. Had he not ordered Marcus to be assassinated, then neither outbreak would have occurred).Johnny Novgorod said:
2 and 3 are an extension of the Arklay outbreak. Throughout all of the early REs, you find newspapers and files saying that something was coming out of the Arklay Mountains and attacking people in the town (Although as there were only a few deaths and no witnesses, the police claimed it was probably a wild animal doing the killings when it was actually Cerberuses). Arklay is very close to Raccoon City geologically. While the outbreak in Raccoon City was technically an accident, it was still orchestrated by Marcus. And...er...the survivors did reveal what Umbrella was doing to the government. That's why Umbrella was eventually shut down. It took a bit after the Raccoon City incident because when the city was nuked, it destroyed all of the hard evidence (Or at least whatever was left after Leon blew up the underground lab).
Spencer's intentions are littered throughout RE 0-5 in the form of files and archives. The reason he had Marcus assassinated was because he was paranoid about Marcus using his research to increase his standing in the company. So he transferred the t-virus/BOW research to Arklay and had Marcus killed, which set off Marcus being revived by the Progenitor-infected Leeches and his subsequent releasing the virus on both his own facility and the Arklay facility.
As for the various BOWs...yeah, they tested it on everything. That's sort of the point of doing research. Marcus created Plague Crawlers from insects, Lurkers from frogs, and Eliminators from monkeys for example. Why wouldn't they test the extent of the t-virus's capabilities?
Spencer only provided the funding needed to get Umbrella started. Once they were established as a company, they funded research and development on the Progenitor virus using their legitimate exploits (Pharmaceuticals, oil, etc).
Also...wat. Las Plagas is nothing like the t-virus. Plaga are an actual parasite that takes over the host body (We have parasites that operate like this in real life). Plaga infectees are still living but can only be killed by damaging the Plaga itself. The T-virus just reanimates/mutates the dead. They're completely different things.
Indeed. Unfortunately, the woman is troperific in a bad way. A Giant Space Flea From Nowhere guilty of Nice Job Fixing It Villain with a severe case of Idiot Ball syndrome and is - just to top it off - a Goddamned Boss in a game that is a big Guide Dang It and The Computer Is A Cheating Bastard.Veylon said:
There's probably lots of bad tropes, but I don't feel like looking them all up.
Modern Warfare 3. It was ridiculous enough that the Russians launched a full-scale invasion on the US in MW2, but then after the Americans pushed them back, where the hell did they get the resources to invade all of Europe simultaneously? The defeat in the US would have been the costliest military blunder in history.
It mentioned it quite clearly. Elizabeth could not create her own tears due to the Syphon, she could only open up existing ones. By the time she gained the ability to open up her own tears, it was beyond the point where going to Paris was her main priority.Deu Sex said:
She can't teleport, she can open doorways into other universes. So even if she did go to Paris, she wouldn't be in the Paris of the world she left, she'd be in a different universe.
I know it's fun trying to save RE from utter idiocy so here're a couple more quandaries for you: why would anybody try to cover up a zombie outbreak with another, bigger zombie outbreak (RE6)? And still no mention of why Spain seems to be stuck in the Middle Ages. Also: T-Virus... Plagas... Majini... J'avo or whatever they're called... fancy words for zombies. Just shoot them in the head.Kopikatsu said:
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Sniper Elite V2. The plot is sooo stupid, first your trying to snipe scientists so they don't defect to the russians then you uncover a plot where the germans and russians are teaming up to launch a v2 filled with poison gas into england. There is so much retardedness in the plot it becomes parody.
Army of Two: The Devil's Cartel: I read a review that essentially said, "half of this game's dialogue is monosyllabic grunts," and that is pretty accurate. Your purpose is to stop some guy who is working with some cartel somehow, which is bad for some reason. All of the characters are horrible stereotypes and archetypes, but I am honestly unsure if that is due to racism and homophobia, or the developers being too fucking retarded to create distinct characters. Its developers followed a Malibu Stacy doll's credo, "thinking gives you wrinkles!" I hope the upcoming sequel to Rise of the Triad will parody this type of stupid Gears of War and Call of Duty clone, just as the original parodied Doom clones. Doom clones were at least distinguishable, whereas these Call of Duty and Gears of War clones look, feel and sound the same.
Both Dragon Age games, though the first one worked in context: I will start with the second one, a plot so terrible and inane that it is a mere thousand times better than M. Night Shyamalan's best movie. Dragon Age 2 is %90 wandering around a dull, featureless city, doing inane tasks for idiots, or as I call it, my daily life. You get no sense of accomplishment, power, relevance, scope or anything else that makes good games involving. Games are escapism: We use them to distract from the horror and tedium of daily life, which is why we enjoy playing the powerful warrior who saves or destroys the world. Nothing you do matters in the game: You buy a mine, it collapses; you collect a treasure, it gets stolen; you stop the Klingons from conquering the city, but the factions who remain are even worse. You just meander around until the endgame, which is a conflict that only affects a few city blocks, is not really affected by the presence of your characters, and makes you choose between two sides who are genocidal lunatics.
Dragon Age: Origins's plot works in context, but everyone who called it a ripoff of Lord of the Rings was right. Boromir did not want to take the throne, but his crazy father died and he realized that his role was more important than his petty concerns; Alistair did not want to take the throne, but his crazy father died and he realized that his role was more important than his petty concerns. Anyone who gets the One Ring is inevitably corrupted, but less so the Hobbits, who are resistant but eventually succumb to temptation; anyone who is infected with the Darkspawn blight dies immediately, except for a few men who are resistant but eventually succumb and die after a few years. Wearing the One Ring puts you in an alternate dimension where you are invisible to humans, but vulnerable to Nazgul; entering the Fade puts your mind in an alternate dimension where your body is asleep on Earth, but your soul is vulnerable to demons in purgatory. Gandalf and the armies of Middle Earth distract the forces of Sauron at Mordor so Sam and Frodo can destroy the ring; the amassed armies of Thedas distract the enemies at Lothering, if I remember the name correctly so the characters can fight the enemy leader. Dwarves and elves are the same as in Lord of the Rings; there is a long, tedious detour through a dwarven mine; the mage tower is invaded and has to be saved, like the Shire; you get the idea.
I love the Zelda games, they are some of my favorites--they are exciting, imaginative, colorful, fun and charming--but the plots and tutorials are incredibly tedious. They have iterated at least six times that Gannon is a God, a fact which does not affect the games in any way. I like games that allow me to learn things by myself, which is why I love The Real Texas despite its horrible flaws, but the 3D Zelda games force me to sit through boring, badly-written five hour long tutorials before I can get to the action. My favorite Zeldas are the first three, which just throw me into a big, open world and let me figure out the rules. Zelda 2, my favorite of the series lets me start the action simply by walking ten feet to the side. I hope the upcoming sequel to Link to the Past will be paced like the old games.
Both Dragon Age games, though the first one worked in context: I will start with the second one, a plot so terrible and inane that it is a mere thousand times better than M. Night Shyamalan's best movie. Dragon Age 2 is %90 wandering around a dull, featureless city, doing inane tasks for idiots, or as I call it, my daily life. You get no sense of accomplishment, power, relevance, scope or anything else that makes good games involving. Games are escapism: We use them to distract from the horror and tedium of daily life, which is why we enjoy playing the powerful warrior who saves or destroys the world. Nothing you do matters in the game: You buy a mine, it collapses; you collect a treasure, it gets stolen; you stop the Klingons from conquering the city, but the factions who remain are even worse. You just meander around until the endgame, which is a conflict that only affects a few city blocks, is not really affected by the presence of your characters, and makes you choose between two sides who are genocidal lunatics.
Dragon Age: Origins's plot works in context, but everyone who called it a ripoff of Lord of the Rings was right. Boromir did not want to take the throne, but his crazy father died and he realized that his role was more important than his petty concerns; Alistair did not want to take the throne, but his crazy father died and he realized that his role was more important than his petty concerns. Anyone who gets the One Ring is inevitably corrupted, but less so the Hobbits, who are resistant but eventually succumb to temptation; anyone who is infected with the Darkspawn blight dies immediately, except for a few men who are resistant but eventually succumb and die after a few years. Wearing the One Ring puts you in an alternate dimension where you are invisible to humans, but vulnerable to Nazgul; entering the Fade puts your mind in an alternate dimension where your body is asleep on Earth, but your soul is vulnerable to demons in purgatory. Gandalf and the armies of Middle Earth distract the forces of Sauron at Mordor so Sam and Frodo can destroy the ring; the amassed armies of Thedas distract the enemies at Lothering, if I remember the name correctly so the characters can fight the enemy leader. Dwarves and elves are the same as in Lord of the Rings; there is a long, tedious detour through a dwarven mine; the mage tower is invaded and has to be saved, like the Shire; you get the idea.
I love the Zelda games, they are some of my favorites--they are exciting, imaginative, colorful, fun and charming--but the plots and tutorials are incredibly tedious. They have iterated at least six times that Gannon is a God, a fact which does not affect the games in any way. I like games that allow me to learn things by myself, which is why I love The Real Texas despite its horrible flaws, but the 3D Zelda games force me to sit through boring, badly-written five hour long tutorials before I can get to the action. My favorite Zeldas are the first three, which just throw me into a big, open world and let me figure out the rules. Zelda 2, my favorite of the series lets me start the action simply by walking ten feet to the side. I hope the upcoming sequel to Link to the Past will be paced like the old games.
Yep TV Tropes sure is a fun website. Care to explain what any of those capitalised phrases mean?FalloutJack said:
OT: Golden Sun: Dark Dawn.
The first two games had a well established mythology and world, and went the extra mile by having you play as the "villain" in the second game so you could see the whole thing from a new perspective.
And then the third game starts you on a fetch quest that DOESN'T END UNTIL ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THE FRIGGIN GAME. The villains have clearly been manipulating the piss out of you throughout this whole thing, but nope! Guess we'll keep traipsing through the wilderness to get our stupid bird feather! At which point, you realize that (surprise surmotherfuckinprise) the bad dudes were playing you the whole time, and they make completely unforeshadowed (haha puns) bullshit happen until you fetch quest your way to their base.
At this point, the masked bad guy suddenly reveals that OMG HE WAS FROM THE FIRST TWO GAMES (for the record, anyone who beat the second game could have told you that within a second of his introduction) and that the remaining two baddies were from some secret darkness airship empire and well damn, you gotta kill 'em. You do so, schemes averted, time to go home.
You go home, because now you have your AMAZING BIRD FEATHER time to finally put it to use. Nope, end credits, wait for the sequel.
Also, they introduced magic-absorbing black holes in the first hour and made a big damn deal about them, and then forgot they existed until the very last scene, where I guess we were supposed to care?