Most Tragic Villain
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Magneto (Though not technically a villain these days, at least in the comic medium). He has a back story you can sympathize with: Family murdered in the Holocaust, able to move past that somewhat, then his daughter is murdered and his wife flees in terror from his mutant abilities, only to die after giving birth to two (Possibly three depending on what they want to do with Polaris) children he doesn't even know about until their adults. Finds a kindred spirit in Xavier, only for their differing philosophies to tear them apart. He believes mutants have to rule because he doesn't want them to go through what he went through, but he doesn't see that his action make him out to be like the very enemies he so despised. I have to admit, though, my favorite Magneto stories are the ones where he seeks redemption, not as a power mad terrorist bent on world domination. Despite what he thinks, he's only human. One of the most interesting and complex characters in the history of comics.
I would agree that he fits, though, like J.K. Rowling, I wouldn't say he was a hero, or even a good person. He was a major antagonist of the series, and although I too wouldn't label him as such, walked the fine line of villain a couple of times.Airsoftslayer93 said:
Skull Kid from the Legend of Zelda, for sure.
Once, a long time ago, Skull Kid was a young boy, with all the opportunities in the world... but one day, he wandered into the Lost Woods, perhaps to play, perhaps to explore... perhaps, to live.
The Lost Woods are a horrible place, and children that get lost are turned into Skull Kids, twisted scarecrows that have lost their humanity. In The Ocarina of Time, Skull Kid is befriended by a young boy named Link, who teaches him a song and gives him a Happy Mask. However... as Link removes the Master Sword and becomes a man, Skull Kid's only friend vanishes without a trace. Once again, he is alone.
Later, Skull Kid moves to Termina, in desperation for friends, he encounters the Four Giants who are the protectors of the world. Once again, these four giants were forced away, and Skull Kid was left alone. It was only when Skull Kid played a prank on the Happy Mask Salesman, stealing Majora's Mask and starting the events of said game.
Poor Guy....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z07jmgnRQl4
Johan Liebert
from Monster
easly the most evilest vilain ever made (only people who seen monster can agree to that)
his looks of him being sad and depressed
his life was predestind ever before birth
he was born to be the next hitler
yet its really tragic for him
and the audience really fells for him and what could have happend to such a great mind
if his existance was changed, could he be a good person?
Fulgrim and his whole legions fall from grace to Chaos is tragic. Not to mention what it made him do during the battle at Isstvan V to Ferrus and his overal fate. It's one of my favorite stories from the Heresy, just how far a Primarch can fall from grace to the twisted lies and calls of Chaos.Hawk of Battle said:
In "A Thousand Sons" I felt sorry for the fate of the Thousand Son's due to Magnus' foolish call and what happened to their world. After that story I don't think I'll ever like the Space Wolves, Russ' mangy son's and hypocrites(sp)...
"The First Heretic" pretty much broke my heart in the first part, to see Logar's faith just destroyed like that, him and his legion having to bow down before another legion and the Emperor himself.
Granted other legions fell in terms of greed, anger or petty rivals with other legions but for me those three Primarchs and their legions always sadden me when I see just how far they've fallen from grace and glory....
Ah, the tale of the star-crossed lovers Timpani and Blumiere. I loved that game, don't understand why it divides the Paper Mario fan base.ShaggyEdiddy214 said:
Okay blanking on the name, but that Vietnam Vet from the first Deadrising? He was pretty tragic. He watches his granddaughter get eaten alive right in front of him, gets hit by a case of PTSD and starts murdering zombie and survivor alive. Then when you defeat him he has a nice dying moment of sanity. I don't know, there are probably better ones out there, but that is the one that sticks with me now.
Actually, come to think of it a lot of the villains in that game are pretty tragic. Even the crazy clown Adam's death was tinged with just a bit of tragedy... I don't know, feel free to discuss.
Actually, come to think of it a lot of the villains in that game are pretty tragic. Even the crazy clown Adam's death was tinged with just a bit of tragedy... I don't know, feel free to discuss.
How about Kuja from FFIX?
He spends most of the game trying to acquire ultimate power so he can overthrow his master... sure, he's a real jerk about it, but the truth is he is fighting for the right to keep his own soul.
Then, just when he thinks he has finally accomplished his mission and become the most powerful being in the universe (survival of the fittest and all that), Garlands taunts Kuja: something along the lines of "You were always faulty, so I built you with a short lifespan. You're gonna die any moment now. Byyyee!"
I think that moment when Kuja's world crashes down around him and he timidly asks, "...I'm gonna die?" is one of the most tragic villain moments I've seen.
He spends most of the game trying to acquire ultimate power so he can overthrow his master... sure, he's a real jerk about it, but the truth is he is fighting for the right to keep his own soul.
Then, just when he thinks he has finally accomplished his mission and become the most powerful being in the universe (survival of the fittest and all that), Garlands taunts Kuja: something along the lines of "You were always faulty, so I built you with a short lifespan. You're gonna die any moment now. Byyyee!"
I think that moment when Kuja's world crashes down around him and he timidly asks, "...I'm gonna die?" is one of the most tragic villain moments I've seen.
Damn, you beat me to it. Though I have to say that there is certainly no argument that he was the villain, just that it was terribly tragic. I mean, if someone I loved and was closed to died and Satan came and said, "Here, assassinate some guys for me and she's yours," I don't think I'd say no. Even with that annoying voice in the back of your head saying "you know he's gonna kill you" dying for them would be enough for me. Also, I'd like to point out that the Collossi weren't necessarily harmless. They were just asleep at the moment, which could mean a lot of things, like being unholy monsters hellbent on world destruction. Maybe Wanderer is a means to an end for a God. (Or I could just be forgetting the story)Kuranesno7 said:
Just want to note, this is about most tragic villains, not antagonist. Light was DEFINITELY the villain in that series.Fbuh said:
Scar. From Fullmetal Alchemist. Perhaps not the most tragic, but...gods, I feel sorry for the man, despite all of the murders.
If someone thinks they can sum things up better than this, and shorter, please PLEASE do so. This was complicated.
An unnamed country invades Ishbaal. Spelling? Perhaps. What happened was that Scar and various other countrymen - including his brother, who tried to bring his own dead girlfriend back from the dead using Alchemy, but was driven insane by the knowledge - was while they were trudging miles away from their bombed and bloody city through empty howling deserts, they're attacked by a man working for the Unnamed State who can, in brief, make parts of you explode by TOUCHING] you.
Random people die, and the evil Alchemist blows up an x-shaped scar on...well, Scar's face. Then blows one of his arms off. His brother makes the Alchemist go away by absorbing the power that he wields into his own body, and Scar passes out. Know what happens when he wakes up?
His brother gave him one of his arms, heavily tattooed with Alchemic circles, and full of each and every single person that died in Ishbaal. Hearing their pain. Feeling their rage. The grief. The cries of the innocent. He goes to Central, the capital of this Unnamed State, and starts murdering State Alchemists to try to prevent this from ever happening again.
And he kills them by making their bodies come apart. Step one of Alchemy? Take it apart. He stops there. It's messy.
Random people die, and the evil Alchemist blows up an x-shaped scar on...well, Scar's face. Then blows one of his arms off. His brother makes the Alchemist go away by absorbing the power that he wields into his own body, and Scar passes out. Know what happens when he wakes up?
His brother gave him one of his arms, heavily tattooed with Alchemic circles, and full of each and every single person that died in Ishbaal. Hearing their pain. Feeling their rage. The grief. The cries of the innocent. He goes to Central, the capital of this Unnamed State, and starts murdering State Alchemists to try to prevent this from ever happening again.
And he kills them by making their bodies come apart. Step one of Alchemy? Take it apart. He stops there. It's messy.
If someone thinks they can sum things up better than this, and shorter, please PLEASE do so. This was complicated.
NO kidding. Especially with...well, I don't want to use spoiler tags for a couple words, but you know, that thing that happened towards the end.NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Anyway, anyone remember that OTHER animated Batman series, The Batman? Um, if it helps, it's this [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheBatman] one. Anyway, they portrayed Clayface far more tragically than I'd ever seen before. This is largely because of timing; the Dark Knight was being planned at the time, so Two Face was off limits, so they had to go elsewhere for their friend-turned-evil. I wish I could find a Youtube video of it, but I can't, so just take my word for it that it was genuinely sad and tragic. I'll explain.
Bruce Wayne is friends with a cop named Ethan. They spend a season or two really characterizing him. Then, at the end of the first or second season (forget which), they have The Joker kidnap him and turn him into Clayface. One scene comes to mind right after he was transformed. There's a bunch of cops who are clearly freaked out by him. Clayface, who seemed to know at least one personally, tries to say "Sergent". However, he's still new to the transformation, and his words are very garbled. The cops freak out and start shooting. Later, he's back at his old appartment and devastated. However, he has learned how to control his transformation. He makes himself look and sound like his old self. Unfortunately, by this point, he's more or less given up, and he becomes a mainstay villain.
Says you, L and that gang of orphans of his were the bad guys in my book. How dare they get in the way of the God of Justice, Kira!JohnnyThinMint said: