Most underrated game ever?
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I tried Viewtiful Joe. Almost fell asleep. It was pretty boring in my opinion. Their finest work was Okami, which still is just a Zelda clone that was done very well.Wolfpocalypse said:URGE TO KILL RISING.....JAYSEE DENTUHN said:Clover Studios is one of the most overrated studios in my opinion. Everyone of their games is praised greatly as some of the best game ever from everyone, when in reality they're good at best and mediocre at worst. Even after they shut down and then created Platinum Games all of the games released under this studio are greatly overrated as well. Both Bayonetta and Vanquish bored me to tears. Almost suicide at some points.Wolfpocalypse said:
lol yeah in fairness they were the sort of games you either loved or hated, but come on viewtiful joe mediocre? HAVE YOU NO HEART!?
i would agree 100% about platinum games though, bayonetta was cringeworthy and vanquish.... so forgettable. it wasn't even alternative like bayonneta ffs.
if you dident like ehm thats fine, but i would urge you to give them another go!
the suicide joke was kinda unnecessary mate
"The Path". Sure, it gets no shortage of acclaim from people with an interest in games as art who have played it, which is a relatively small community. But it deserves the acclaim. Very, very few people are actually trying to do the sort of thing that they are attempting. And what they are trying is perhaps the most important thing to try in gaming. The fact that the developers can act kinda like pretentious douchebags should not detract from how important what they are trying is.
I liked Alpha Protocol as well,despite the fact that it was butchered by game reviewers/critics which their opinion doesn't matter squat for me.
I don't choose which games I play after watching to see what the reviewers(mostly gamespot)think.I tend to try the game for myself and see if it was worth my time.Then after I finished/quit the game I watch the review and compare what I think about it and their own "experienced" view on it.
The thing I liked in Alpha Protocol was the dialogue and the lightning fast decisions you had to take in few seconds time,which would mold the story based on every sentence and decision you made throughout the game.
Mass Effect and Dragon Age "choice wheel" gives you enough time to read what the NPC's said and try out multiple choices or even reloading and trying to see where the other option takes you.
I don't choose which games I play after watching to see what the reviewers(mostly gamespot)think.I tend to try the game for myself and see if it was worth my time.Then after I finished/quit the game I watch the review and compare what I think about it and their own "experienced" view on it.
The thing I liked in Alpha Protocol was the dialogue and the lightning fast decisions you had to take in few seconds time,which would mold the story based on every sentence and decision you made throughout the game.
Mass Effect and Dragon Age "choice wheel" gives you enough time to read what the NPC's said and try out multiple choices or even reloading and trying to see where the other option takes you.
I always seem to have the same list of games for these threads, but here I go.
Too Human- Lotta fun(though it had lots of problems), and the story was pretty good, towards the end
Brutal Legend-My GOTY in 2009, funny, fun, it was just amazing, too bad it didnt sell much
Alan Wake- Runner up for GOTY last year ( mass effect took first) It had a great story, and game play. Plus had amazing atmosphere
Condemned 1/2- Now these games sold well enough to get sequels, but they dont seem to get mentioned much if at all. Scary, fun, and good story( end of 2nd one sorta pissed me off though)
Too Human- Lotta fun(though it had lots of problems), and the story was pretty good, towards the end
Brutal Legend-My GOTY in 2009, funny, fun, it was just amazing, too bad it didnt sell much
Alan Wake- Runner up for GOTY last year ( mass effect took first) It had a great story, and game play. Plus had amazing atmosphere
Condemned 1/2- Now these games sold well enough to get sequels, but they dont seem to get mentioned much if at all. Scary, fun, and good story( end of 2nd one sorta pissed me off though)
There was a game released way back in the day called Twinsen's Odyssey. Apart from a reference at the end of Yahtzee's Little Big Planet review, I haven't ever come across a reference to the game without explicitly googling it.
The game was childlike, but beautiful and incredibly immersive, it had some of the best graphics available in 1997 and wonderful music.
Along the same lines was a game called Starship Titanic by Douglas Adams. It was a point and click puzzle game, again with beautiful music and the most innovative chat system I've ever seen. The game had wonderful voice actors (including John Cleese and Terry Jones) reading lines written by Douglas Adams.
tl;dr
Twinsens's Odyssey
Starship Titanic
The game was childlike, but beautiful and incredibly immersive, it had some of the best graphics available in 1997 and wonderful music.
Along the same lines was a game called Starship Titanic by Douglas Adams. It was a point and click puzzle game, again with beautiful music and the most innovative chat system I've ever seen. The game had wonderful voice actors (including John Cleese and Terry Jones) reading lines written by Douglas Adams.
tl;dr
Twinsens's Odyssey
Starship Titanic
Oh my god. It was the first game I played on my Xbox. It was so freaking good!ChipSandwich said:
Yes, I did. I played as a Vanguard, then I tried Infiltrator. Sorry, but a different set of skills doesn't do the job for me. It's not about the gameplay, because it's stellar anyway, it's about going through a 12 hours of the exact same events, with two or three possible outcomes, which doesn't really change anything in the long run (I really do hope that ME3 will make those decision important). It's was an awesome game for one playthrough, but I just cannot force myself to do it second time.pspman45 said:
Also, hey nice stab at AP, but let me retaliate in your way:
Have you considered putting some skill point in those weapons?
Many people just say the pistol is shit, but when you actually start putting your points in it, it suddenly becomes the best way to win boss battles. This is the same deal like in Deus Ex. Yeah sure, at first I was also whining about it, but when I discovered what was the system behind it, I think it's brilliant. You want to be proficient in something - train it.
The First level's job is to make me pick what skillset i want to pick, you mentioned Deus Ex, they did that right, they maxed out the skill and let you try it. AP just says, here is a pistol, you're going to miss every shot, so you might as well sink all your points into CQC and stealth, so I did.Yossarian1507 said:
(PS: the protagonist's name is so atrociously bad... i mean Micheal Thorton? thats boring... its just a slight change to these guy's names http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Thornton )
First prize: Oni. Yes, I know how it was supposed to have multiplayer and vehicle sections and all that. But the single player game was super fun to play and, frankly, isn't that what we're all in this for? I just wish they made a sequel.
New one: Precursors. A weird eastern European space game in the styles of Deus Ex, Elite and Borderlands with more sidequests than you can shake a stick at. It didn't sell well, it's super quirky and there are some WEIRD elements in it (you can use live animals as guns in the FPS portion), but it's really cool and really original. It's also inspired by the works of Andre Norton, who wrote some pretty cool sci-fi back in the day.
And for the love of all that's holy, can people stop saying Planescape? It's rated RIDICULOUSLY highly by any and all connoisseur RPG players who have anything nice to say about the Baldur's Gate franchise. It just didn't sell well. That game debatably belongs in the 'games that sold way less well than something of their quality should have sold' thread.
New one: Precursors. A weird eastern European space game in the styles of Deus Ex, Elite and Borderlands with more sidequests than you can shake a stick at. It didn't sell well, it's super quirky and there are some WEIRD elements in it (you can use live animals as guns in the FPS portion), but it's really cool and really original. It's also inspired by the works of Andre Norton, who wrote some pretty cool sci-fi back in the day.
And for the love of all that's holy, can people stop saying Planescape? It's rated RIDICULOUSLY highly by any and all connoisseur RPG players who have anything nice to say about the Baldur's Gate franchise. It just didn't sell well. That game debatably belongs in the 'games that sold way less well than something of their quality should have sold' thread.
Hey, I agree about the first one, it would be better if they let you do that. But, hey no game is perfect. I'm just saying 'give it a chance, it's not that bad'.pspman45 said:
About the second one... Really? Those are two War heroes, one tax judge and an actor. What's wrong with that? I mean, John Shepard is the default in ME, and it's also a slight change to these guy's names: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Sheppard_(disambiguation), and it's not really that interesting as well. I'm not saying it's a point against ME. I mean, who cares? It's just a name. Not every hero needs to be called Marcus Fenix, Duke Nukem, Blast Hardcheese or whatever.
I'm not sure, where this conversation is heading... I think AP is seriously underrated for the reasons I stated already. You try to counter that argument, because... ME2 is better (plus two nitpicks). Yeah, probably. But:
a) That still doesn't mean that AP ISN'T underrated. Lakers, Spurs, Celtics, and Heat are the best basketball teams around, but that doesn't mean that, let's say, Orlando Magic is not a good team as well.
b) While we're at it, the basketball metaphor is actually appropriate to the situation. The Spurs maybe the best team around, but Phoenix Suns' playstyle is what I like about basketball (explosive offense, fancy passes from the point guards etc.), and that's why I have more fun watching Phoenix play rather than Spurs (Well, okay, also because Gortat play's there and I'm from Poland, but you get my point
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That wikipedia page doesn't exist..... lolYossarian1507 said:Hey, I agree about the first one, it would be better if they let you do that. But, hey no game is perfect. I'm just saying 'give it a chance, it's not that bad'.pspman45 said:
About the second one... Really? Those are two War heroes, one tax judge and an actor. What's wrong with that? I mean, John Shepard is the default in ME, and it's also a slight change to these guy's names: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Sheppard_(disambiguation), and it's not really that interesting as well. I'm not saying it's a point against ME. I mean, who cares? It's just a name. Not every hero needs to be called Marcus Fenix, Duke Nukem, Blast Hardcheese or whatever.
I'm not sure, where this conversation is heading... I think AP is seriously underrated for the reasons I stated already. You try to counter that argument, because... ME2 is better (plus two nitpicks). Yeah, probably. But:
a) That still doesn't mean that AP ISN'T underrated. Lakers, Spurs, Celtics, and Heat are the best basketball teams around, but that doesn't mean that, let's say, Orlando Magic is not a good team as well.
b) While we're at it, the basketball metaphor is actually appropriate to the situation. The Spurs maybe the best team around, but Phoenix Suns' playstyle is what I like about basketball (explosive offense, fancy passes from the point guards etc.), and that's why I have more fun watching Phoenix play rather than Spurs (Well, okay, also because Gortat play's there and I'm from Poland, but you get my point
and please refer to the ZP review of AP before i rant on how much of a douche Thorton is. and he will ALWAYS be a douche, no matter what kind of character you are