Mother drives 4 kids into river to die
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Yup. I get she was depressed, but even in death the damage she has done to that boy will likely make him end up just like her. He really is walking dead, which is the most sad part about this story. So here's hoping hell exists, because if it does she is rotting in the 9th circle of the burning pit with a pitch fork up her ass. The part that really gets me though is when she said "if I die your coming with me".Kortney said:
I guess the point I'm making is if you kill yourself to harm others, ESPECIALLY the ones that love you, rather than to escape some kind of pain, you can slowly burn for all eternity.
That ***** should have been killed as soon as she had the last of those kids. Clearly she was mentally unstable.
Some of the comments I'm seeing here sicken me to no end. But, I'm not about to get into a shouting match with anyone. This is nothing but a tragedy. Just the fact the boy wasn't able to save his siblings leaves me feeling terrible. None of them deserved this, not even their mother.
exactly mental illness is a disease as much as diabetes. It can be controlled and the symptoms minimized with therapy and medication. No one knows what she was thinking before and during this. I can only imagine because of of a past suicidal episode in my life. When you are that deep in depression trapped by thoughts of hopelessness and helplessness you see your only escape as death. Especially when the thoughts are constant and unending. It takes time to get out of the hole.Jumplion said:
The jackasses makes comments in poor taste I have chalked up to the infamous "internet dickwad theory" and/or trolling for attention. But in all seriousness. She was crying for help and no one heard her till it was too late.
these events make me wonder if one should require a lisence to raise children, one of the requirements being mental stability and lack of harmful addictions.
It did remind me of Butters' own episode from southpark. Am I supposed to feel bad about that?
It did remind me of Butters' own episode from southpark. Am I supposed to feel bad about that?
Holy shit, that is just horrible. What kind of person would do that? Force their children to drown with them? Suicide is one thing, taking down others with you because you don't want to die alone, that is evil. The poor boy, he has essentially lost his whole family. At such a young age too.
1 Thing though, the boy escaped through the window, that means the window was open. That means that the pressure from the water acting on the car door would be minimal after not too long. Why did the mother after realising her mistake, not attempt to open the door, force the other children and herself out the window, anything like that. You still have at least 30 seconds, usually more of consciousness after the car goes down.
1 Thing though, the boy escaped through the window, that means the window was open. That means that the pressure from the water acting on the car door would be minimal after not too long. Why did the mother after realising her mistake, not attempt to open the door, force the other children and herself out the window, anything like that. You still have at least 30 seconds, usually more of consciousness after the car goes down.
what about the surviving child who has to live with the pain and guilt (trust me he will blame himself) for the rest of his life?KingGolem said:
I don't either. I only respond because I wasn't sure if you where quoting me to support that, or talking to me. I just wanted to clear up any misconception that I might be apathetic to a person killing themselves.nin_ninja said:
I would love to be able to help everyone in need. I just understand that all you can do is let people know you are there to help, you can't watch them 24 hours a day, and the warning signs are usually only apparent afterwards. Everyone get's depressed, or sad, unless they start talking about suicide there really isn't much you can do.
That was my point. Help was there for the lady, she just ignored it, willingly or not she ignored it and concealed from others the extent of her true feelings. The people interviewed said the same things you always hear: "She seemed off." "She seemed sad." You just need more then that before you can act on a person's behalf, against their will. So that's why I say it sucks that she killed herself, but it's not a tragedy. The only real tragedy is that she took the lives of innocent children in the process.
Round of applause. I want to copy and paste this and re-post it everytime someone on this forum makes one of those disgusting comments. 'Oh look how cool, edgy and hard-ass I am, I think suicidal people deserve to die cos they're weak LOLZ'Furburt said:
As someone who has had an immediate family member commit suicide as well a friend, I can pretty safely say these ignorant people wouldn't be quite so quick to be so callous had they had experienced it first hand. Let's hope they never have to because I wouldn't wish it on anyone, not even them.
Suicide has far too many causes and reasons to be generalised as 'for the weak'. Your statement was utterly, utterly wrong and misinformed.FutureJarhead16 said:
I had a brother who had schizophrenia and whose every moment of every day was a waking nightmare of horrific visions, hallucinations, emotional and physical pain, of which no medication helped to relieve. He took his own life after years of living in complete hell. By your reckoning he was 'weak'.
Get educated on topics before you make ignorant blanket statements like that.
The thing is, right, It's a choice really to live or die. The problem with suicidals is their rationality is completely fucked up, twisted and destroyed from depression/whatever. So, if you clearly decided to commit suicide because of like cancer or whatever, and you gave it rational thought, fine. But their minds are fucked, you can't let them make decisions based on it.KingGolem said:
The orphans thing, I'm sorry but that's really fucked up, it's not so bad if children are murdered so the state don't have to deal with placing them in new homes? That's very, very cold. Don't see where sadism came into play, but whatever.
Doesn't really. It just makes it more disgusting.Furburt said:
You want to take your life? That's fine, I would say that you leaving your kids as orphans is a horrible thing to do, but if you can't take it anymore... well... yeah.
But dragging them to die with you and then pulling an "I am teh sorry"?
Why would you ever feel sorry for the person who does that? In fact, she actually tried to prevent her children from saving themselves.
This person deserves no empathy. This is not me being a cold douche, but a person who values human life and doesn't want to see children hurt because their parents are terrible people.
Poor kid(s). I hope the surviver makes it out relatively okay.
The mother, however, i have no sympathy for. Taking your own life? Yeah, sure, i don´t agree with you, but whatever. But taking OTHERS with you? Just...die. Seriously. Someone who does that has no place in this world.
Also, looking through this thread, i can see some pretty agressive responses to everyone who dares say anything else but "This is horrible!". No, i don´t agree, i feel sorry for the kids, but there´s no need to insult people because of their opinion. Calling them cold and heartless is pointless. It would be like if they called you weak because of your sympathy.
The mother, however, i have no sympathy for. Taking your own life? Yeah, sure, i don´t agree with you, but whatever. But taking OTHERS with you? Just...die. Seriously. Someone who does that has no place in this world.
Also, looking through this thread, i can see some pretty agressive responses to everyone who dares say anything else but "This is horrible!". No, i don´t agree, i feel sorry for the kids, but there´s no need to insult people because of their opinion. Calling them cold and heartless is pointless. It would be like if they called you weak because of your sympathy.
I don't know what to say. I can't imagine how anyone could feel that would make them want to kill not just themselves, but all their kids. People talk about suicide as a cowardly way to get out, and sometimes folks rationalize it by not wanting to "burden" people with their existence. But when you try to kill almost your entire family (and mostly succeed)... How low did you go? Is this some Lovecraftian thing?
I think we throw the term "mental illness" around as a way to explain what we can't understand, or don't want to look at. In my history class yesterday we were looking at paintings by Goya, and I marveled at the terror a person must have held to paint that way, the desperation in the brush strokes. I don't know what to call this.
There's a lot of murder, death and disease in this world. I know that. I know people are massacred and abused and there's all of that.
Even so, this is sick and wrong on some fundamental level, and anyone who laughs at this story is either scared or a worthless human being. Imagine if this was your family, your mother who did this. I can't even process that. I mean, I'm trying to understand, but I can't.
I think we throw the term "mental illness" around as a way to explain what we can't understand, or don't want to look at. In my history class yesterday we were looking at paintings by Goya, and I marveled at the terror a person must have held to paint that way, the desperation in the brush strokes. I don't know what to call this.
There's a lot of murder, death and disease in this world. I know that. I know people are massacred and abused and there's all of that.
Even so, this is sick and wrong on some fundamental level, and anyone who laughs at this story is either scared or a worthless human being. Imagine if this was your family, your mother who did this. I can't even process that. I mean, I'm trying to understand, but I can't.