Mothers can be Idiots
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i know this is late to the discussion but these words should help you a lot:Douk said:
you ask why we are suppose to treat our moms with respect, but you never had to, and never will, because this idea of respect comes from those receiving it wanting to keep it, so they had to make it where the next generation must be subservient to the older. look at nearly any major point in history revolving around revolt and you will see it came from the revolter not agreeing with the established norms. now i have a respect for my mother, but i refuse to listen to some of her established rules b/c i do not believe in them, and you shouldn't have to listen to her as well.
or you can always call GLADD and have them harass her until she gives you back your computer.
Really I think your relationship with your parents is based on your age.
When your young they are usually gods who have strange unknown ways but are utterly omnipotent which you know despite you refusing to brush your teeth
They become petty retards during your teen aged years (not all this is a generalization)
and then your relationship can truly form when you are an adult of course people and whatnot change but I find this to be generally right,
of course it depends
Since my parents separation I get along perfectly with my dad, I respect him and he respects me, neither of us think the other is a idiot (probably because I take after him in certain ways) and have a very healthy relationship.
My mother and I have what you could call a typical teen aged relationship with mother/ son
I tend to try to respect her because she is older/wiser than I but at times just seem to find out that she might have just been born before me and is pretty good a parenting...............that sums up her skills and knowledge from my perspective.
My grandmother who has taken a sort of parent role in my life means well but is very confusing and old fasioned to me and ever since she has started living with us I tend to always feel patronized and mad at her no matter what she does, I try not to but I can't help it
I hope it gets better in the future
My dad introduced me to Heavy Metal and video games
My mother made my paranoid of all strangers everywhere
When your young they are usually gods who have strange unknown ways but are utterly omnipotent which you know despite you refusing to brush your teeth
They become petty retards during your teen aged years (not all this is a generalization)
and then your relationship can truly form when you are an adult of course people and whatnot change but I find this to be generally right,
of course it depends
Since my parents separation I get along perfectly with my dad, I respect him and he respects me, neither of us think the other is a idiot (probably because I take after him in certain ways) and have a very healthy relationship.
My mother and I have what you could call a typical teen aged relationship with mother/ son
I tend to try to respect her because she is older/wiser than I but at times just seem to find out that she might have just been born before me and is pretty good a parenting...............that sums up her skills and knowledge from my perspective.
My grandmother who has taken a sort of parent role in my life means well but is very confusing and old fasioned to me and ever since she has started living with us I tend to always feel patronized and mad at her no matter what she does, I try not to but I can't help it
I hope it gets better in the future
heh heh opposite to meae86gamer said:
My dad introduced me to Heavy Metal and video games
My mother made my paranoid of all strangers everywhere
I never understood respecting people because you're related to them, for instance: My mother quotes superstitious old dribble like "don't speak ill of the dead" and I do believe I'm well within my rights to tell her she's a fucking idiot for that... and I do.
My mom's great... until we get to the topic of violent video games. Or adults playing video games. Then I disagree with her so much, and I've proved her wrong, but I'm still wrong. Because I'm a teenager, and I don't understand.
Ah, the classic "Parent Complaint Thread". I didn't know that these things wondered outside of Myspace and the WoW forums. Anyway, your mom is not technically "mean". You see, I was once a kid, and I noticed that when parents get stressed out, they will look for anything that will mentally empower them and thus raise their morale. Your mom is simply stressed because of the holiday, and bossing you around makes her feel better. Does it suck? Yes, but we live in an ageist world and these countless forums aren't going to affect it. If anything, they're making the problem worse. You can't let her accomplish her goal by getting upset. Simply brown-nose her until she feels that she can control you (thus reliving some of her stress), and then go behind her back and do whatever you want....everybody's happy. [Until you get caught.]Douk said:
[small]I know, I know, I'm a horrible example, but it always worked for me.[/small]
I could understand if you really were spending too much time on it, but at least you were contributing to something that could indeed help you later in life. You're getting experience in art and learning how to work and be a part of a project. At the very least, you're practicing a skill that provokes creativity. Maybe tell her that and see if she's done anything better with her life.
Love and valuation should be unconditional in all but the most extreme cases for all the parents have presumably done to raise you.
Respect is a different matter entirely. Respect must be earned, no matter who it is. It's possible to love and value someone for what they've done and still not respect them for who they are.
Respect is a different matter entirely. Respect must be earned, no matter who it is. It's possible to love and value someone for what they've done and still not respect them for who they are.
People, I do think this person has been listening to a lot of George Carlin. Thank god.Douk said:
If it's that bad then move out...
I know that's not necissarily easy to do, as society seems to have a sick fetish for forcing young people to live with their parents for longer than is natural or healthy, but it can be done. Hell, it's not even completely impossible to study full time at uni and live away from your parents, I know people that do it (and in my hometown of Melbourne there is a worrying shortage of rental properties).
Fuck, I am (and have been for several years) considering moving out because of my parents attitudes towards girls (and my dads hatred of tattoos/peircings really limits the girlfriends I can openly have at all, most girls I can relate to have at least one peircing/tatt), ultimately I can't complain because it's my choice, though at least my parents recignize that and don't want to see me lose all my savings to living costs and as such have lessened some of their restrictions (my dear father beleives that videogames are responsibly for all evil within gen y, despite the fact that we are the same as every generation before us at this stage of our lives). Similarly, unless your lying about your age in your profile, you have a very similar choice (people do actually bother lying about their age, I'm not accusing you just saying that if your 12 moving out obviously isn't an option I see you have, in fact, lied about your age. That's a real sign of maturity, I think I can see how that 'genius' thing works...At 16, I'd already been working significant hours for 2 years outside of school and had bought and paid for my own computer, try that. It's a lot harder to ban someone from something they've earned themselves).
I know that's not necissarily easy to do, as society seems to have a sick fetish for forcing young people to live with their parents for longer than is natural or healthy, but it can be done. Hell, it's not even completely impossible to study full time at uni and live away from your parents, I know people that do it (and in my hometown of Melbourne there is a worrying shortage of rental properties).
Fuck, I am (and have been for several years) considering moving out because of my parents attitudes towards girls (and my dads hatred of tattoos/peircings really limits the girlfriends I can openly have at all, most girls I can relate to have at least one peircing/tatt), ultimately I can't complain because it's my choice, though at least my parents recignize that and don't want to see me lose all my savings to living costs and as such have lessened some of their restrictions (my dear father beleives that videogames are responsibly for all evil within gen y, despite the fact that we are the same as every generation before us at this stage of our lives). Similarly, unless your lying about your age in your profile, you have a very similar choice (
You didn't read the whole thread.DuplicateValue said:Um..........your profile says that you're 18 and a half.Douk said:
And who's George Carlin? Heh sorry I don't watch TV.
And Dys, was that sarcasm?-->
"I see you lied about your age, thats a real sign of maturity." Because I stated my rrason as to why I make myself older than I really am.
Hey, I have to say that, regardless of whether or not I'm religious (which is not of your business), I resent that you include your mother being religious alongside of being racist and homophobic. THey do not necessarily go together like that. That is extremely bigoted of you yourself.
As far as your beef with your mom goes, it'd have to depend on your mom. I think it's a good principle to love your family despite their flaws, even if you don't like them. I don't get along with my mother or my sister, and even tho I don't know if I want to even be near them anymore, I love them anyways.
There is nothing wrong with good family values like that.
As far as your beef with your mom goes, it'd have to depend on your mom. I think it's a good principle to love your family despite their flaws, even if you don't like them. I don't get along with my mother or my sister, and even tho I don't know if I want to even be near them anymore, I love them anyways.
There is nothing wrong with good family values like that.
If you were religious then you would proudly say it, unless... being religious isn't always a positive trait.the_bearpelt said:
She is racist to white people, thinking they're all christians (my mom is muslim), and she thinks homosexuality is evil and work of the devil.
So you see being religious is that root cause so I'm not bigoted.
It's a tough age where these sort of conflicts with parents happen for just about everyone.
Your Mum is struggling to come to terms with you being an adult and clearly out of depth with technology.
And you cannot see things from her perspective. I doubt she is doing these things simply to be mean, but does it with the best of intentions because she wants the best for her son.
My advice: Print out this little rant of yours and store it in a vault somewhere for the next 35 years. Then when your son is 16 and doing something using technology that you don't quite understand and you stop him because you think it is not in his best interests and then you can't understand why he is upset with you - you can read this and it will all make sense.
Your Mum is struggling to come to terms with you being an adult and clearly out of depth with technology.
And you cannot see things from her perspective. I doubt she is doing these things simply to be mean, but does it with the best of intentions because she wants the best for her son.
My advice: Print out this little rant of yours and store it in a vault somewhere for the next 35 years. Then when your son is 16 and doing something using technology that you don't quite understand and you stop him because you think it is not in his best interests and then you can't understand why he is upset with you - you can read this and it will all make sense.