Movie Defense Force: Transformers
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Reboots are okay. Without reboots we wouldn't have gotten some of the Batman cartoons I enjoyed so much. But some movies are just bad and feel like a popular named was slapped on to cash in on the nostalgia factor.
While Transformers has it's moments of pretty fun like Blackout's attack on the base, there is just so much bad and tasteless to deal with between the moments of hey this is pretty fun. With the parts explosion it's sometimes tough to tell who a robot is with the camera being shaken like an angry nanny had hold of it. Ouch and Megan Fox with that what I can only assume is some attempt at acting.
The very worst sin of all is that in an age when Avengers demonstrated that fan friend and huge box offices can go together instead of a Transformers film that is nice to fans we end up a film that says screw the fans we are making a movie for frat boys and little kids who haven't figured out what story and plot are to a film. An age of iconic film villains and we get eh Decepticons at best and just something for the good guys to kill in later films.
While Transformers has it's moments of pretty fun like Blackout's attack on the base, there is just so much bad and tasteless to deal with between the moments of hey this is pretty fun. With the parts explosion it's sometimes tough to tell who a robot is with the camera being shaken like an angry nanny had hold of it. Ouch and Megan Fox with that what I can only assume is some attempt at acting.
The very worst sin of all is that in an age when Avengers demonstrated that fan friend and huge box offices can go together instead of a Transformers film that is nice to fans we end up a film that says screw the fans we are making a movie for frat boys and little kids who haven't figured out what story and plot are to a film. An age of iconic film villains and we get eh Decepticons at best and just something for the good guys to kill in later films.
I liked Bay's Transformers. Really. Granted I was never all that emotionally invested in the Transformers to begin with despite having grown up in the 80's. Granted there was waaaaaaaay to much of a focus of Le Bouf's character and the teenage drama stuff, but still the Transformers themselves were extremely well realized IMHO and there were a number of shout outs to the classic series starting with the classic transformation sound effect when the helicopter first transforms to Optimus's "One shall stand, one shall fall." line.
Jim, there is no way you can defend Bay's Transformers as anything other than a piece of shit-because it is a piece of shit and so are the sequels. The plot in Transformers is paper thin, the cinematography is terrible, the title characters take a back seat to the humans and their idiotic bullshit, and its characters (both human and transformers) are either one dimensional (most of Autobots and Decepticons), dumb as hell (the fucking parents), or completely pointless (the hackers). Want proof about the one dimensional characters? Try employing the method Mr. Plinkett used in his review of Phantom Menace by explaining to someone who has never heard of Transformers the personalities of each Autobot and Decepticon by just using the first movie. I?m pretty damn sure you?ll be drawing a blank on the majority of them.
Moviebob had it right the first time when he reviewed Revenge of the Fallen. Michael Bay is a douche-bag filmmaker, plain and simple. He showed zero respect for the source material and gave us a headache-inducing cinematic abomination that has a major hard-on for the military and obnoxious characters. The only reason he took the job is that the paycheck is right and the same goes for his role as producer of the TMNT reboot. Bay could give barely a nanometer of a fuck about what he?s doing with these franchise properties and he gives even less than that when it comes to the people who watch his movies. If there was a fair and just God in the world, he would burn Michael Bay from the inside of his asshole outward.
Moviebob had it right the first time when he reviewed Revenge of the Fallen. Michael Bay is a douche-bag filmmaker, plain and simple. He showed zero respect for the source material and gave us a headache-inducing cinematic abomination that has a major hard-on for the military and obnoxious characters. The only reason he took the job is that the paycheck is right and the same goes for his role as producer of the TMNT reboot. Bay could give barely a nanometer of a fuck about what he?s doing with these franchise properties and he gives even less than that when it comes to the people who watch his movies. If there was a fair and just God in the world, he would burn Michael Bay from the inside of his asshole outward.
As much as I rag on the first Transformers, you're right. It's really not that bad. The action was fun, and the characters while pointless didn't take up all the space.
Let's not also forget about the soundtrack by Steve Jablonsky. Christ, he made a fantastic score for that movie.
I don't like admitting this, but Transformers 1 is to be in movie collection. Just nice to have something mindless to watch on a really boring day.
Let's not also forget about the soundtrack by Steve Jablonsky. Christ, he made a fantastic score for that movie.
I don't like admitting this, but Transformers 1 is to be in movie collection. Just nice to have something mindless to watch on a really boring day.
Ehhh... honestly the first bayformers movie didn't particularly offend or annoy me, but I saw it and just a few years later I can barely remember any of it, the action and story wasn't particularly interesting to me, or at the least, it certainly didn't stick with me, maybe that's too much to ask for, but if it doesn't work for me on even a popcorn action movie level then what good is it?
And yeah, if you do somehow manage to defend the second bayformers movie then I'ma be pissed, that took the racist and sexist undertones that the first had in a smaller capacity and turned them up to eleven, throwing in offence or annoyance whenever it could, and I don't accept that it was shitty just because of the writer's strike, that's an excuse you can't really lean on in defence of the final product.
And yeah, if you do somehow manage to defend the second bayformers movie then I'ma be pissed, that took the racist and sexist undertones that the first had in a smaller capacity and turned them up to eleven, throwing in offence or annoyance whenever it could, and I don't accept that it was shitty just because of the writer's strike, that's an excuse you can't really lean on in defence of the final product.
Saw the first and second at the theater, the first one was alright but the second... That marked the first time I ever had to leave the theater for a bit to not watch a scene. I didn't see the third due to hating the second.
From the cartoons, I was always more attached to the beast wars series till they got to cybertron(been a while, I think that's the planet's name).
From the cartoons, I was always more attached to the beast wars series till they got to cybertron(been a while, I think that's the planet's name).
Not to mention that Megatron, or in the first movie Galvatron, tried to take out Unicron when he got the Matrix. Megatron/Galvatron's loyalty is only to himself really. Hell even in Energon (my least favorite TF series ever), Megatron tried to control Unicron, only to find out that Unicron was just using him as a puppet.arc1991 said:
For me I'm a huge Transformers fan as well and I don't mind the second movie, but RoTF was just utter crap and Dark Moon was really meh if you ask me.
As someone who had almost zero contact with the Transformers brand prior to seeing Bayformers... I actually quite enjoyed it. Yeah it's dumb fun, but that can still be fun when you're in the right mood. My only real problem with it is that I preferred Bumblebee's original Camero model over the new one... Then again, I'd have rather he been the beetle to begin with.
This time, Jim has truly crossed the line. I'm beginning to think he's a Hollywood plant paid to promote dreck in a lame attempt to stop the decline in ticket sales.Jimothy Sterling said:
For a brief moment I thought this was going to be the Animated Transformers movie, bullet dodged on that one.
The first Transformers movie isn't actually that bad (7 full priced ticket viewings make me a fan or masochist, take your pick) and over all was enjoyable; Revenge of the Fallen, good luck defending that steaming pile, is truly what soured the experience for me; it was fucking awful.
The first Transformers movie isn't actually that bad (7 full priced ticket viewings make me a fan or masochist, take your pick) and over all was enjoyable; Revenge of the Fallen, good luck defending that steaming pile, is truly what soured the experience for me; it was fucking awful.