Moviebob's review of The Expendables and the community's reaction.

[maninahat]

I believe he was making fun of the muscle lovin, Tapout t-shirt wearin' douchebags that wanted to see the movie because it fits their personality style. I could be wrong, but whatever. No need for butthurt here.

That kind of bothers me too. It is like he's saying "if your one of those douchebags, none of these reviews need apply to you". His continual bitching about jocks just comes across as a tad snooty.

 

[solidstatemind]

What's going on here is that Movie Bob is probably formally trained in the profession of watching movies. Probably went to film school and all that other stuff (or at least picked up an English major somewhere). Movies like "The Blind Side" are essentially the "Twilight" of film. They're bland, have tropes for characters, and are usually boring too. Granted, it was inspirational, but really only because it followed a formula. And when films fall back on formula too much, they start to be boring for those who are professional movie watchers.

Not saying your wrong, but 'The Blind Side' is a poor choice for your argument, given that it is based (and fairly closely, if you read the book) on a true story, so you can't really say that it is formulaic in that sense. Perhaps it uses a 'standard Hollywood format' in the presentation, or glossed over some deeper issues they could've addressed in order to keep the tone light and positive, but they certainly didn't rely 'on tropes for characters', since- you know- those are real people. And comparing it to Twilight... that's just wrong on so many levels. I think you broke my head.

OT: the issue I've had with Bob's reviews sometimes is that he'll focus on one aspect of the film that really pisses him off-- in this case, it was how "bad" movies like Expendables get supported while "good" movies like Scott Pilgrim do not; in the Book of Eli review, it was the whole 'Bible as McGuffin' thing-- and he ends up conveying very little in the way of useful information about the movie that we can use to make up our own minds. This is a bad way to "review" for two reasons:
1) it actually ceases to be a critique and should be more accurately labelled an editorial, and
2) it forces the opinion of the 'reviewer' on the audience, rather than presenting evidence, providing an opinion based upon said evidence, and then elaborating, but still ultimately leaving the decision up to the audience.

Aside from that, I just thought that- in a way- it's ironic because Bob is yelling at people for being 'Sheeple' and eating whatever slop Hollywood shovels into the trough, but if he is honest about what he said in that review, his problem really is that the sheeple are not dining on the slop that he thinks is of higher quality. There is such an arrogance in that stance.

 

[Arawn.Chernobog]

Oh look... it's this thread again.

"The Critic said something mean and now I want to kill his cat", these are always entertaining.

Popcorn anyone?

Hells yeah, want me to get the icing sugar?

Here you are good man:

Each was fine coated with icing sugar, some have a bit of melted butter, and all have a touch of "Whiner's Tears".

To the rest of you, continue bickering over how your feelings were hurt by a random internet movie critic, it will please me.

 

[ThePuzzldPirate]

Does it honestly really matter that he has a different opinion?

If he insults other peoples taste and choices, to the point of blaming them for the decline of something he likes, then yes, people should at the very least give him a "don't be a douche" look; perhaps even going so far as to be mildly offended? I can't speak for the latter, but if he said these things to me in person i would certainly give him that look.

Its not just his opinion, its his judgement of others thats mildly irritating.

OTHERWISE, his actual comments on the movie itself i totally agree with.

But then why aren't there threads against yahtzee. He insults everyone all the time.

Probably because Yahtzee does it for comedic effect, and most people aren't sure if he actually thinks everyone is stupid. An insult for the purpose of comedy isn't an insult.

No, I think you are quite wrong there, insulting someone because you find it funny does not stop it from being a insult.

 

[dalek sec]

MovieBob is getting more and more unlikeable each week. He still cannot shut up about Transformers and had a long stint in which he more or less labeled "The Blind Side" as an insidious, subversive Antichrist of films.

Now he's implying that the general population are all idiot sheep. Does he expect me to like him for that? I don't plan to see The Expendables, but I don't begrudge people for wanting to, because it has an awesome premise!

Yeah, this pretty much sums up my compliants as well with MovieBob myself. Just let it go about Transformers already, I doubt Bay is just going to pack it up just because you didn't like the movie man.

He's been saying that the general public are idiots since his "Inception" review and to me that was the final straw for myself. Like Lacktheknack just said, I don't plan on seeing the Expendables but I don't mock and scoff other's for seeing it.

 

[grimsprice]

Probably because Yahtzee does it for comedic effect, and most people aren't sure if he actually thinks everyone is stupid. An insult for the purpose of comedy isn't an insult.

No, I think you are quite wrong there, insulting someone because you find it funny does not stop it from being a insult.

??? What? I don't think i understand what you're saying.

It has nothing to do with whether i find it funny or not. Yahtzee intends it comedically. Where MovieBob intends it as an insult.

It all has to do with intent. If you take a joke seriously its not the jokers fault. If you take a serious comment as a joke then you missed the point.

 

[Baldry]

Movie Critics are not real people like you and me, if it isnt game changing/Subtitled/watched by no-one then they are not happy.

If you want to go watch it then do, watch his videos and enjoy but dont look to them for actual direction. If the situation was reversed and everyone went and watched Scott Pilgrim and ignored The Expendables he still wouldnt be happy, and he would say that the Sheep have been won over by the marketing campaign for Scott Pilgrim and in their folly have ignored the old school delights of Stallone and his dirty half Dozen

Besides he liked Equilibrium so he clearly gets it wrong sometimes

Hardly because Scott Pilgrim is, in theory, a new idea and he would of loved it all the same, unlike the Expendables which is just several old action movie icons, a politician and Jason Statham(Who is old enough yet) Blowing sh*t up, if I wanted to see that I'd watch Transformers 'cause that has robots! And Equilibrium is quite a good film!

 

[Gutkrusha]

Personally I saw his movie review as 'The movie I liked got beat by the movie I don't like. RAAAAAGE' But whatever, dude has his opinion. I Loved the Expendables, I've seen it twice now. It was all great cheesy action movie with comedy thrown in.

The movie was exactly what the trailers said it would be. If you went in expecting anything else, that's on you.

 

[Breaker deGodot]

I believe he was making fun of the muscle lovin, Tapout t-shirt wearin' douchebags that wanted to see the movie because it fits their personality style. I could be wrong, but whatever. No need for butthurt here.

Yeah, I got that impression too. That said, The Expendables sucked.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

I can't believe that people actually got offended by MovieBob's review - do people on this website really have SO LITTLE to do with their time other than sit in their rooms, stewing about how some stranger on the internet insulted an incredibly broad range of people which just happened to include them? Are some people really that pathetic? Seriously, get the fuck over it, you cry-babies.

And The Expendables was a pile of shit - I like mindless action movies when they're done right (see Crank 2, or even the A-Team), but this was not one of them... not by a long shot.

I can't say I can blame Bob for being pissed that a good film got screwed over by a generic action that does indeed pander to the insecure male audience. If anything the comments section on the video just reinforces his stance and maybe you could prove him "wrong" if it weren't for the fact that a LOOOOOT of users also supported his opinion in saying they also despised the film. If I want a good action movie I'll just watch Die Hard or Predator again.

 

[Tdc2182]

MovieBob is hit and miss with me. Sometimes it gets to the point were his review nearly makes me facepalm.

This was not one of those reviews.

This movie literally was fucking terrible. It was beyond bad. Me and my friends were nearly kicked out of the movie for laughing so hard.

Its not even good for a quick cheesy but fun actiony movie. The action is terrible and takes you out of the movie.

What I took from that: If you like The Expendables and movies like it, you suck.

I may be a terrible person, but this is exactly what I feel. Honestly, I lose respect for people who thought this movie was even decent. My AV tech class could make a better movie than this.

I... I don't even know how much further I can go. The Special effects were pre 80's at best. The action didn't even come close to making up for it. The Harry Potter movies had better fight scenes.

There was no need for any other actors other than Statham and Stalone. Bruce Willis seemed like he was waiting for someone to show up with a passable script.

It is just unbelievable that this movie is doing well. And offensive.

 

[Nailz]

Movie Critics are not real people like you and me, if it isnt game changing/Subtitled/watched by no-one then they are not happy.

If you want to go watch it then do, watch his videos and enjoy but dont look to them for actual direction. If the situation was reversed and everyone went and watched Scott Pilgrim and ignored The Expendables he still wouldnt be happy, and he would say that the Sheep have been won over by the marketing campaign for Scott Pilgrim and in their folly have ignored the old school delights of Stallone and his dirty half Dozen

Besides he liked Equilibrium so he clearly gets it wrong sometimes

You obviously didn't watch his review of scott pilgrim. Obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Obviously a troll.

Obvious troll is obvious.

If the expendables being just plain bad is too much for you, go watch it anyway. But being a movie Critic its his job to have an opinion, and he does. Do I agree that the success of the expendables is horribly problematic and indicative of a cancer on the back of cinema? Yes. Yes I do. People can go watch it if they want, and they can also promote the use of biological warfare. Who am I to judge.

 

[Reveras]

Ok who in all honesty who saw this movie claims that he went to the cinema going "This is the next Hanibal/Citizen Kane as quality!"

No one one this planet, they all went for the same reason I went, I was drunk and wanted to see shit blow up with my mates.

 

[Outright Villainy]

Whether you agree with his view of the movie or not is immaterial, it was pretty dickish to insult everyone who liked it. He's a bit stuck up his own ass at the moment.

 

[Pipotchi]

Movie Critics are not real people like you and me, if it isnt game changing/Subtitled/watched by no-one then they are not happy.

If you want to go watch it then do, watch his videos and enjoy but dont look to them for actual direction. If the situation was reversed and everyone went and watched Scott Pilgrim and ignored The Expendables he still wouldnt be happy, and he would say that the Sheep have been won over by the marketing campaign for Scott Pilgrim and in their folly have ignored the old school delights of Stallone and his dirty half Dozen

Besides he liked Equilibrium so he clearly gets it wrong sometimes

You obviously didn't watch his review of scott pilgrim. Obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Obviously a troll.

Obvious troll is obvious.

If the expendables being just plain bad is too much for you, go watch it anyway. But being a movie Critic its his job to have an opinion, and he does. Do I agree that the success of the expendables is horribly problematic and indicative of a cancer on the back of cinema? Yes. Yes I do. People can go watch it if they want, and they can also promote the use of biological warfare. Who am I to judge.

Sigh Obvious troll is obvious? I didnt realise people actually said that without the use of air quotations in a vain attempt to be ironic.

Actually I did watch the Review of Scott Pilgrim, I have also watched Scott Pilgrim and I have watched the expendables. I never said the Expendables was a good film or that it is better than Scott Pilgrim. I actually prefer SP over E.

What I do take objection to is the notion that Moviebob and apparently you as well feel the need to cast all the viewers of The Expendables as advertising led sheep. People like 'bad' films because they are easily watched, it doesnt make them stupid or anything else they are free to watch whatever Twilight/Mamma Mia/Sex and the City based twaddle they like.

Do I like these films? No they are all rubbish but the fact remains that people like them and people should have films they like to watch without self described movie lovers decrying them as the death of cinema.

 

[The Night Shade]

People over think this movie,it's just a silly action movie nothing else

 

[gillebro]

I thought it was fine. Everybody's entitled to their opinion. And he did actually praise the 80-style action flicks when he praised Rambo. The main point he was making was that those movies worked in their own way, but they improved when more thought was put into the action scenes and they started being planned, with in-depth choreography and more interesting stunts. And having people from all walks of life rather than just beefy bonds-chesty-wearing dudes performing the stunts provides an intriguing variety. It was like he was comparing gyrating in a club to carefully-rehearsed So You Think You Can Dance routines. That was how I compared it anyway. When he referred to traditional action movie lovers as the worst sort of person, I would say that he was assuming that something like 99% of his audience would be the sort of person that appreciates the entertainment value in both sorts of action movie. It's a complicated one, but it certainly didn't spark any anger in me. I quite liked the review, actually.

 

[Teh Magic Man]

oh my god... someone didn't like the expendables..... oh no explosions were not enough to make a film good... oh no someone insulted douchebags...

movies that focus solely on explosions can be fun, but if you are someone who expects some amount of artistic expression, then yeah this and transformers will drive you crazy. critics have to think more about these things than adverage movie goers because "yeah it was pretty cool. liked it when things blew up" isnt a good review.

ah screw it. i dont wanna argue after all. someone pass the popcorn...