MovieBob's thoughts on the ME3 ending controversy

[z121231211]

How is ME3 not art? It brought people in, caused them to feel like they had an effect on the story, like what they did was important. It did this so well to so many people that the fans actually took the ending so seriously they felt betrayed at the ending. They researched why it was bad, made their opinions based on fact and their experiences with the game.

And you know what wasn't said by any of them? "It's a videogame, how the hell could you expect an engaging story from a VIDEO GAME of all mediums?" From a AAA title no less.

If that's not taking games seriously or treating them like art, I don't know what is.

 

[goose4291]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/3536-Going-Green-Part-II

Odd how when it happens in the comic book world he's cool with it...

 

[spartandude]

i say 2+2=5
people say im wrong
i then change it to 2+2=4


Ive set mathematics back by a decade

 

[NortherWolf]

i say 2+2=5
people say im wrong
i then change it to 2+2=4


Ive set mathematics back by a decade

How could you?!
MATH IS ART!!!!111

 

[iRevanchist]

Says the man who thought Other M was a work of art. to be honest with everyone, if I sold a painting that was beautiful on the whole but had one really ugly part, I'd change that part and sell it again. Does that make my painting less like art? no.

 

[lordtec]

When people say games are art I always laugh. Games are products made to sell. Some can be art, but most of them are just ways to get money. If ME3 is art I compare it with the Mona Lisa with a little twist. ME3 is like the Mona Lisa if Leonardo Da Vinci had made the painting without the smile and then used a permanent marker to put the smile on it.

 

[Starke]

So, I wanted to share my thoughts (for what they're worth) on MovieBob's tweets regarding the ME3 ending controversy:

Congratulations, "Mass Effect" crybabies. You've officially set the entire medium back a DECADE as an art form

To be blunt, I wrote the first three tweets off largely as hyperbole.

To be blunt, on that first one? Fucking good!

Video games, as an art form need to go back about a decade. Deus Ex: Human Revolution did, and look at the quality we got.

Games ten years ago included things like System Shock 2, Planescape Torment, the original Fallout games, fucking Baldur's Gate, the original Deus Ex.

The fact is, a decade ago, video games were more of an art form than they are today in most cases. If Mass Effect 3 can provoke the industry to be set back ten years, we're all going to be better off for it.

 

[Dresos]

I didn't buy the game on launch and when I saw how it ended I decided to not buy it at all. Games are about as much art as lets say food is, sure at high class resturants you can enjoy some truly artistic creations. But Mass Effect 3 weren't such a creation, it was more like fast food. You heard it would be good but bad at the same time and tell yourself you won't buy it but eventually you do, then you enjoy it for a short time but after your done you are left with nothing but regret.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/3536-Going-Green-Part-II

Odd how when it happens in the comic book world he's cool with it...

Could also be applied to them retconning the Ms Marvel 'rapey' storyline I guess...

Is anyone else finding it hard to play the game through again knowing how it ends? I love the multiplayer but I haven't touched the single player game since I finished it.

 

[Samus Aran but a man]

I've never really liked Bob... he always seemed so smug and well... not right

 

[mgs16925]

All art offered for sale is product. This argument makes no sense.

 

[w00tage]

I look forward to The Big Picture episode where he gets on his soapbox and starts hurling insults at us.

Me too. I like hearing (but don't necessarily agree with) his views on things, so this one would be interesting.

 

[w00tage]

Releasing another alternative ending is a good idea. A better one would have been to keep the "Rocks fall, everyone dies" proponents, whoever they are, away from the decision-making process, but I think Bioware may have a Berman and Braga kind of problem there (who are Berman and Braga? If you thought something about any of the the Star Trek franchises other than TOS was dumb, chances are it was they who were directly responsible).

 

[Lord_Gremlin]

MovieBob's point would have been 100% valid... But in this case the actual content of endings matter. The sheer idiocy of it... I can't remember any move or book that comes up with something so flat-out stupid.
What, next thing George Lucas will re-release Star Wars and turn Darth Vader into rainbow unicorn and Death Star will be destroyed by the power of love of two lesbian black chicks. Would you defend this idiocy too? Or you will say that re-release is a piece of crap unworthy of being put in close proximity of actual art?
The problem with ME3 is that it's actually that bad already. It's not art. ME3 is a shitty consumer product. And is treated as one.

If you wanna blame someone, blame Bioware. They sacked original writer during ME2 development and put an idiotic rock song "Starchild" in the end instead of actual one. ME3 is an example of corporation botching art, where writers get fired and producers write story based on bad songs and stock images.
Shame on you, Moviebob. There goes your credibility.