Moving the New 360 Can Damage Disks

[Raykuza]

People say this is true for any console or disc drive but it is not. I know this for a fact as I have moved my PS3 and seen several Wiis tipped over. And it's not unreasonable to want to move your console during gameplay. In my small dorm room, I need to keep my PS3 and TV on my desk along with everything else I keep there. Though not too often, sometimes I need to move stuff around in the crowded area. I simply don't have enough room for a perfectly static place for my system. How does that make me stupid?

 

[Hiroshi Mishima]

Even my good old ps2 can withstand moving the console around.

Also this.

But let's not forget about people with pets (cats for instance, I have one cat that likes to sit and watch my TV... from about 2 inches away (off to the side). If my PS2 was sideways, I'd have freaked. I never leave my console upright like that unless it's a Wii and has a good/decent stand to keep it more stable. Even then I only have it that way to keep my mom from being confused.

 

[mew4ever23]

Moving a console while it's running has never been a good idea, for fear of this exact problem.

 

[Signa]

Totally a design flaw IMO. Granted, moving the console is a bad idea, but how many other disk drives suffer from this symptom? I mean, I know it's designed differently 'n' all, but if I can shake my laptop while a disk is reading and have nothing happen, why can't the Xbox be allowed the same?

 

[Gh0st1y_H]

its not good to move the console while the disk is spinning for ANY REASON, and this counts for ps3s and wiis too, it should be common sense to NOT MOVE the console while the dick is spinning, this is not microsofts fault and i didin't expect them to have fixed that becuase frankly, it is very hard to fix.

So, out of sheer curiosity, why exactly are you talking about dicks spinning? I'm fairly certain Microsoft wouldn't be responsible for anything remotely related to that kind of thing.

But yeah, the whole "don't move it while it's running" thing should have been obvious.

 

[orangeapples]

THIS JUST IN: I dropped my PS3 and now it doesn't work. I need to warn people of this severe design flaw!

 

[Pingieking]

Though most people don't seem to share my opinion, I think this is a completely stupid move and a terrible design flaw. Of course, this isn't limited to MS, I'm fairly certain that the PS3 has the same problem.

I am quite certain that the shaking-a-drive-with-a-rapidly-spinning-plastic-disk problem was solved sometime during the last century. I've got a CD player that works completely fine when I juggle it, and I've got a laptop DVD drive that works perfectly fine when I shake it vigorously. Any electronic device having this kind of problem is just badly designed, since this should be a non-issue.

 

[Miumaru]

Funny how the newer it is, the weaker it is. My N64 has survived a billion beatings and still works.

 

[Fbuh]

You don't have to spend hundreds of dollars on a new 360 just to destroy your discs. The old ones do it just fine if the damn cat knocks it over while you're playing Fable II and are 5 minutes from the end of the game.

 

[Lucane]

Though most people don't seem to share my opinion, I think this is a completely stupid move and a terrible design flaw. Of course, this isn't limited to MS, I'm fairly certain that the PS3 has the same problem.

Nope the Ps3 and Wii's Disc drives are fine for not scratching discs unless your doing something that would cause internal damage to the system itself but that goes without saying a disc may be damaged that way.

 

[NickIsCool]

its not good to move the console while the disk is spinning for ANY REASON, and this counts for ps3s and wiis too, it should be common sense to NOT MOVE the console while the dick is spinning, this is not microsofts fault and i didin't expect them to have fixed that becuase frankly, it is very hard to fix.

lol

OT: i never had this problem with my 360... then again, i never moved it once it was set up safe and sound in my entertainment stand

 

[Finebrew]

Some people dont know that you shouldnt try to stop a chainsaw with your hand so its the manufactuers fault when they try.

 

[terribleyetfun]

Well they fixed the much worse problem of the red ring of death....I think.

But c`mon it`s just common sense not to move the console whilst it`s moving I mean there`s a sticker on the front telling you expressly not to do that.

 

[WilliamRLBaker]

2x, 16x, 48x doesn't matter...the Angular Momentum of a DVD (12cm diamter, 15g weight) at 8000rpm is below 225 µJs (I calculated the worst case...assuming all the mass is concentrated at the rim of the DVD instead of distributed evenly across the whole area...easier math...). Turning that without damaging the disc should be a nobrainer...

lets see..spinning it without damaging the disc isn't the problem, spinning it and then wobbling the system around is the problem, and even soft foam pads aren't going to stop that and will infact cause other problems including the foam pads rubbing off and lodging in the dvd drive making it fail completely.

and yeah..sorry but your wrong, the gyroscopic affect on the disc is vastly larger then you calculated go watch the mythbusters episode about a cd or dvd blowing up inside a computer because it ran too fast, 46x would be something on the level of 20000rpm, and they were destroying disks left and right at such high rpm's, the gyroscopic force literally started bending the disk while in spin causing it to shatter apart.

the gyroscopic force wants to maintain its balance when the disc is spinning when you uplift the system or wobble it you change the relative angle at which the gyroscopic forces are pushing on the disc thus causing it to continue its balance and rub against the laser lense assembly.
get a pc, get a high rpm dvd drive and wobble the system around and it will likely do the same thing.

 

[WilliamRLBaker]

Though most people don't seem to share my opinion, I think this is a completely stupid move and a terrible design flaw. Of course, this isn't limited to MS, I'm fairly certain that the PS3 has the same problem.

Nope the Ps3 and Wii's Disc drives are fine for not scratching discs unless your doing something that would cause internal damage to the system itself but that goes without saying a disc may be damaged that way.

how often have you waited till the ps3 was spinning at its relatively low rpm, then up lifted it, put it in horizontal positon from vertical and wobbled it around?
I'm actually feeling to urge to try this, I'm take a ps3 game and make sure its running at its highest rpm then wobble the system around and such and see if it makes any noise.

 

[shadow741]

Doesn't the disk get scratched up if you move it with ANY console? Also, what kind of retard moves it when there's something in it?

 

[Kwaren]

This is why you don't move sensitive electronics while they are on. This is also why you should wait for the second generation of any particular console.

 

[David Bray]

Who the hell would move the console mid-play. Thats stupid.
I only wish microsoft added that feature to help gaming darwinism

 

[Shycte]

If you move your console while playing a game you're a stupid muthafucka.

Simple as that.