MS, Apple, Blizzard, EA, WB and Disney ban all NY sex offenders

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xPixelatedx

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RJ 17 said:
Zhukov said:
Also, why only sex offenders? What about murderers?
Murderers don't typically talk about their penises to 12 year olds.
And neither do sex offenders. Sex offender =/= child molester, it means any sex related crime. Ultimately this doesn't do anything to protect children, either. I would say the average run-of-the-mill XBL gamer is more likely to talk about their penis to your kid. These people are worse then anyone convicted/suspected of rape or chronic public masturbator.
 

Ranorak

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Isn't this more about that fact that you can't actually murder someone through the internet, but you sure as hell can (verbally) molest under aged children.

This isn't about "Haha, you can't have fun any more."
It's about "There are children here, under aged, maybe we shouldn't let registered sex offenders near them."

And I'm pretty sure that they check what kind of sex offence, before you come up with the public urinating argument again.
 

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yeah, I'm pretty sure this is unconstitutional, punishing people beyond their sentence is just petty and pointless, sex offenders have a hard enough excistance as is with all the restrictions already placed upon them on top of the actual sentence.

also, I hear it's pretty easy to gain this status, but I'm not very knowledgeable on these laws.
does a sexual harrassment case make you a sex offender immediatly? (flirting with co-workers for example) or does it have to be something very drastic?
 

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Ranorak said:
And I'm pretty sure that they check what kind of sex offence, before you come up with the public urinating argument again.
How do you know?
 

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veloper said:
Ranorak said:
And I'm pretty sure that they check what kind of sex offence, before you come up with the public urinating argument again.
How do you know?
I don't know, but I do guess the outcry is not going to go unnoticed if they banned every single person that ever urinated at the corner of a street and toss them in the same box as child molesters.

I know a lot of people have little faith in anything government related, but I'd be honestly shocked if they didn't think this through.
 

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Is this just another effort to "protect the children"?

Well first off, sex offender doesn't always = child abuser

It sounds like this was just a big blanket sweep over the entire roster they had of sex offenders. Seeing as people can be put on that list for relatively minor offenses these days, it seems a little unfair. They either already served their time, or are still doing so. We shouldn't be persecuting people AFTER that happens.

If all of those thousands of people were convicted of pedophillia or what-have-you then okay. But I doubt they all were.
 

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This is ridiculous. If we're going to treat sex offenders (try reading a list of all the crimes that fall under that category, by the way. Most of the people we're talking about aren't rapists or child-molesters. There have been some children put on the list for running naked around an elementary school playgrounds. Do we really want to lay on this kind of punishment for something someone did when they were six?) this way, effectively saying that they're never allowed back into society even after serving their sentences (you might also want to check out their rates of recidivism versus those for other types of offenders. The "they can never be rehabilitated" argument kind of takes a hit from that), then there's really no argument against just killing them on the spot. If you don't think they can improve and never intend to give them a real second chance, why waste so many resources keeping in prison and monitoring them afterwards? The way we treat prisoners and former prisoners in the US is already beyond barbaric and does nothing but encourage them to become more antisocial and commit more crimes; adding shit like this on top of that is just fucking dumb.
 

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Bad thing. Punishing people beyond court sentence. Unlawful. Don't do it.
 

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Fappy said:
There is so much wrong with this thread it hurts just looking at it. People have some strange perspectives on the world D:
I agree Fapmaster. :L



Ranorak said:
veloper said:
Ranorak said:
And I'm pretty sure that they check what kind of sex offence, before you come up with the public urinating argument again.
How do you know?
I don't know, but I do guess the outcry is not going to go unnoticed if they banned every single person that ever urinated at the corner of a street and toss them in the same box as child molesters.
Er, what outcry? It happens all the time and no one cares. Certainly doesn't help when the people who would actually say something are thrown in the category of "omg he's defending kiddie fiddlers". :/
I know a lot of people have little faith in anything government related, but I'd be honestly shocked if they didn't think this through.
The economy is in the toilet and we are arresting people for smoking grass. I think people have too much faith in their government. :L
 

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Ranorak said:
veloper said:
Ranorak said:
And I'm pretty sure that they check what kind of sex offence, before you come up with the public urinating argument again.
How do you know?
I don't know, but I do guess the outcry is not going to go unnoticed if they banned every single person that ever urinated at the corner of a street and toss them in the same box as child molesters.

I know a lot of people have little faith in anything government related, but I'd be honestly shocked if they didn't think this through.
Really? You "guess"? They already put them on the same list and subjected them to the same regulations (including routine public humiliation in some areas), what makes you think this this is going to cause any more of a public outcry? The public attitude on issues like prison rape and the abuse of minors by privatized juvenile facilities has already demonstrated how little the American public cares about anyone you hang the "criminal" sign on, regardless of what they actually did. The only exception seems to be women who commit abuse or murder against their partners or children. There are whole international organizations willing to threaten terrorist action to keep them out of prison, and no one seems to mind.
 

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OtherSideofSky said:
Ranorak said:
veloper said:
Ranorak said:
And I'm pretty sure that they check what kind of sex offence, before you come up with the public urinating argument again.
How do you know?
I don't know, but I do guess the outcry is not going to go unnoticed if they banned every single person that ever urinated at the corner of a street and toss them in the same box as child molesters.

I know a lot of people have little faith in anything government related, but I'd be honestly shocked if they didn't think this through.
Really? You "guess"? They already put them on the same list and subjected them to the same regulations (including routine public humiliation in some areas), what makes you think this this is going to cause any more of a public outcry? The public attitude on issues like prison rape and the abuse of minors by privatized juvenile facilities has already demonstrated how little the American public cares about anyone you hang the "criminal" sign on, regardless of what they actually did. The only exception seems to be women who commit abuse or murder against their partners or children. There are whole international organizations willing to threaten terrorist action to keep them out of prison, and no one seems to mind.
Really?!

I mean, honestly?
I'm not American, so I'm actually quite surprised that public urination and raping a child are in the same fucking ballpark!

Here in the Netherlands, if they catch you urinating in public, you get a 100 Euro fine.
So yeah, colour me shocked and slightly repulsed.
And having lost, yet another, chunk of hope for American Governments.
 

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I can understand the reasoning behind it, but this is a twoedged sword. The harder we make it for criminals to return to a normal, decent live, the more likely they will get to commit another crime of one sort or the other.

Then there is the other reasons other people listed.
Why not murderers too? the crime is at least as horrible. But where will we stop?
What about weaker degrees of sexual offending like exhibitionistic acts or peeping?
What are we willing to allow?
 

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Vrach said:
Zhukov said:
This is kinda weird. Why are they punishing people beyond their court sentence?

Also, why only sex offenders? What about murderers?
Because a murderer doesn't need internet to find and lure a random target. A sex offender does.
Sure, tell that to all the people who've been molested by relatives, family friends.etc.
 

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lapan said:
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What about weaker degrees of sexual offending like exhibitionistic acts or peeping?
Those do get people put on sex offender registries. This includes, as mentioned before, non-sexual public nudity like streaking and people taking a leak in the bushes. America's legal system is pretty fucked up.

Incidentally, if we're super worried about kids being exposed to creepy people in multiplayer, wouldn't the solution be to ban children from M-rated multiplayer? Please?