MS, Apple, Blizzard, EA, WB and Disney ban all NY sex offenders

[Epona]

I despise rape and sex offenders, and I don't pity criminals yet we can't treat them like mere animals without considering that they're still people.

Yep. You treat people like animals, they become animals.

 

[lacktheknack]

This is kinda weird. Why are they punishing people beyond their court sentence?

Also, why only sex offenders? What about murderers?

Because murderers aren't required to surrender their online info. Sex offenders use the internet to aid their crimes often enough to make an info surrender standard, while it's probably mostly an exception when a murderer does it. (All speculation.)

OT: I can't exactly say that I feel sorry for them...

 

[joshuaayt]

Uhm. Look, I don't like sex offenders- it's sorta hard to. But isn't throwing a COMPLETELY irrelevant punishment at them sort of setting an awkward precedent?

Besides, we're talking about mostly people who have already served their sentence. Still scum, to be sure, but that seems to directly go against the entire goddamn point of that little justice system we have. The "Do the time" part?

On that note, don't we keep hearing about people getting put on the sex offender registry for non violent- and even disputed- crimes? I'm just saying it doesn't seem like a lot of thought has been put into this, is all.

Because someone who has sex with their 17 year old girlfriend when they turned 18 a week earlier or someone who was drunk off their ass and took a piss in an alley are totally scum right?

Seriously...you call them scum and then immediately after point out how tons of people get put on the sex offenders list for completely fucked reasons.

My grandfather got put on the sex offenders list many years ago. Want to know why? Some 8 year old said he grabbed her ass. The problem with this that no one seemed to give a fuck about? My grandfather was 72 years old with bad knees and this kid was separated from him by 30ish feet and a 5 feet tall fence at the time of the alleged ass grabbin. Didn't matter to the fucks who had his name added to the sex offenders list that it would have been physically impossible for him to jump that fence, grab her ass, then jump the fence again in the minute span that it happened. Nope, some kid said he did it and children never make shit up.

There are too many bullshit reasons to get put on the sex offenders list to put any legal weight behind it. Personally I don't feel the list should even exist considerin how much it punishes people long after they've served their time in prison for the crime they committed or in many cases didn't have to commit because the crime didn't warrant jail time. Unfortunately for anyone on that list, it is perfectly acceptable by the masses to shit all over a particular group of people without any consequences whatsoever.

Sorry, sorry, you're right- I wasn't thinking when I wrote that. I guess when I mentioned sex offenders at the top, I meant more "Actually bad folk, who have done something genuinely horrible", and then when I mentioned it later, I meant "Whoever is on the list for whatever reason, justified or not". I agree with you completely, the list is a bad idea- or, rather, has been handled horribly.

 

[VoidWanderer]

Also, why only sex offenders? What about murderers?

Murderers don't typically talk about their penises to 12 year olds.

Are you really saying that murder is better than talking about a penis? Man, that's pretty fucked up but it explains why politicians get away with persecuting sex offenders.

With Murder the victim no longer suffers. With Sex Offences, it can completely destroy the personality, the person has to live with the memory of the event for the rest of their live. The person's sexual urges can be changed by that one act. Their entire perception of the world changes to something much more negative. There is also the thought "Did I provoke/deserve this?" While the answer is always 'It is not your fault', like survivor's guilt, it NEVER leaves.

So yes, Murder is better than Sexual Abuse in terms of crimes.

So are you saying that rapists should kill their victims, to spare them? Really?

Most rapists enjoy the feeling of power over their victims, believing they did the victim 'a favour'. They enjoy the rush of power whenever they see them. Killing the victim would negate that.

You think the victim would be better off dead then? Rape crisis centers should just start killing victims?

See, I don't think you really believe that rape/molestation is worse than murder.

Which victims requires more help? Murder victims or Rape victims .

While both crimes are abominable, for me Rape is the the most abominable one. While I understand the point you are trying to make, this mini-conversation is swerving off-topic. lacktheknacks post sums things up quite well.

 

[Sonic Doctor]

Aren't there laws or something about punishing criminals beyond their sentences? I mean, granted I can't honestly say I feel particularly sorry for them, but still, is it even legal to do that?

I don't even think there anything legal in this story. Basically, I see it as part of one of the rights that companies have, and that is the right to refuse service two whoever they want. They don't want these sex offenders to have a chance to endanger the kids that could be playing their online games, so they removed these peoples ability to play these games online.

I think it is interesting though since Microsoft is a part of this, that would mean that these people wouldn't be able to use Xbox Live, though since it says "or their communication privileges suspended", I'm guessing that for XBL they just cut their ability to send messages and use their mics.

 

[Epona]

Also, why only sex offenders? What about murderers?

Murderers don't typically talk about their penises to 12 year olds.

Are you really saying that murder is better than talking about a penis? Man, that's pretty fucked up but it explains why politicians get away with persecuting sex offenders.

With Murder the victim no longer suffers. With Sex Offences, it can completely destroy the personality, the person has to live with the memory of the event for the rest of their live. The person's sexual urges can be changed by that one act. Their entire perception of the world changes to something much more negative. There is also the thought "Did I provoke/deserve this?" While the answer is always 'It is not your fault', like survivor's guilt, it NEVER leaves.

So yes, Murder is better than Sexual Abuse in terms of crimes.

So are you saying that rapists should kill their victims, to spare them? Really?

Most rapists enjoy the feeling of power over their victims, believing they did the victim 'a favour'. They enjoy the rush of power whenever they see them. Killing the victim would negate that.

You think the victim would be better off dead then? Rape crisis centers should just start killing victims?

See, I don't think you really believe that rape/molestation is worse than murder.

Which requires more help for the victims; Murder or Rape.

Oh boy that is harsh.

 

[VoidWanderer]

Nobody likes sex offenders, but does anyone else see this as wrong?

The fact that they're a CONVICTED sex offender means that they served their time and their lives are already probably ruined.

This law does nothing other than creating more punishments for a group of people that probably won't commit the same crime again anyway.

Still, I guess the companies can ban whoever they want and this is great publicity for both the businesses and the politicians.

And a convicted drug dealer/user NEVER re-uses drugs?

 

[Vrach]

This is kinda weird. Why are they punishing people beyond their court sentence?

Also, why only sex offenders? What about murderers?

Because a murderer doesn't need internet to find and lure a random target. A sex offender does.

 

[The_Echo]

This is super unfair.

Not only are these people stuck with a court sentence, but now they're permanently punished by companies and services that are entirely uninvolved? It almost seems like a form of sadism. Pardon my French, but they can go fuck themselves.

On a less serious note, some could see this as discriminatory among criminals. Why should sex offenders be the only ones? Equal rights and all that.

Because a murderer doesn't need internet to find and lure a random target. A sex offender does.

Sex offenders existed before the Internet, ergo they don't need the Internet either. Both sex offenders and murderers can operate in the same ways using the Internet, the only major difference being the end result.

 

[Evil Smurf]

excellent, now when an idiot says "suck my dick" online they will be safe

 

[RN7]

Well, I'm pretty sure that it's a statistical fact that sex offenders are 36% badder (yes, badder) at video games than non-sex offenders, so I think this benefits us in mmos and multiplayer games int he long run.

In all seriousness, this a *bit* extreme. I'm totally fine with child molesters and rapists not getting to play video games, but the guy who was drunk and took a leak in public...maybe a bit much.

 

[Necrofudge]

Nobody likes sex offenders, but does anyone else see this as wrong?

The fact that they're a CONVICTED sex offender means that they served their time and their lives are already probably ruined.

This law does nothing other than creating more punishments for a group of people that probably won't commit the same crime again anyway.

Still, I guess the companies can ban whoever they want and this is great publicity for both the businesses and the politicians.

And a convicted drug dealer/user NEVER re-uses drugs?

Apples and oranges, my friend.

In the first place, there's less of a community stigma against drug dealers/users when compared to sex offenders.

I've never heard of a convicted drug user being forced to submit his information to government websites where his location can be tracked by anyone who wants to know about drug users in the area.
I've also never heard of drug dealers being forced to move because of laws requiring them to stay away from schools or child care facilities. Probably because these laws don't exist when you've been convicted of drug abuse.
Huh...

 

[tthor]

for the love of god, these people committed a horrible crime, yes, but they served their time, have been released from prison, and already face a neverending wave of persecution for the rest of their lives. Why can't you just leave these poor fools the fuck alone?

If we are going to go this far, then why don't we just go ahead and do what everyone seems to want, just line up these sex offenders and shoot them in the head. because clearly no one will be satisfied until they all are just rotting in a ditch somewhere..

 

[tthor]

This is kinda weird. Why are they punishing people beyond their court sentence?

Also, why only sex offenders? What about murderers?

Because a murderer doesn't need internet to find and lure a random target. A sex offender does.

seriously? a sex offender could just as easily use a van, and a murderer could just as easily put an ad on craigslist.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

So they don't care what kind of sex offense is in question? What if someone just grabbed waitresses ass? This law is wrong. If those people are free that means they paid their debt to society. Treating them like that no matter what they've done isn't right.

Maybe people...uh...shouldn't grab other people in the butt?

Like, is that a controversial opinion?

That's not the point. The point is they shouldn't be banned from online play.

 

[VoidWanderer]

Nobody likes sex offenders, but does anyone else see this as wrong?

The fact that they're a CONVICTED sex offender means that they served their time and their lives are already probably ruined.

This law does nothing other than creating more punishments for a group of people that probably won't commit the same crime again anyway.

Still, I guess the companies can ban whoever they want and this is great publicity for both the businesses and the politicians.

And a convicted drug dealer/user NEVER re-uses drugs?

Apples and oranges, my friend.

In the first place, there's less of a community stigma against drug dealers/users when compared to sex offenders.

I've never heard of a convicted drug user being forced to submit his information to government websites where his location can be tracked by anyone who wants to know about drug users in the area.
I've also never heard of drug dealers being forced to move because of laws requiring them to stay away from schools or child care facilities. Probably because these laws don't exist when you've been convicted of drug abuse.
Huh...

I was mainly referring to just because someone committed a crime doesn't mean they will not do so again.

 

[CrazyCapnMorgan]

This is kinda weird. Why are they punishing people beyond their court sentence?

Also, why only sex offenders? What about murderers?

Becuase in America anything sexual is 100000000X worse then the harshest most brutal murder one can commit.

Then why are Catholic Churches still standing in America?