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Rhayn

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Hehe... Yeah, I'm not even going to bother to say how much is wrong with that.

All I can say is that if you'd put all the artists in under their genre you'd basicly get a bunch of lines, each equal in size.
 

speedcoreXdandy

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So fans of Lil Wayne and Nickelback ARE retarded. I knew it all along!

Also I'm glad to see Tool have quite a low score because they have the most annoying, arrogant "you're not intelligent enough to get it", fanbase of any band I know of. They're like normal metalheads but 10x worse.(Apologies to any Tool fans reading this who aren't like that, but I have yet to meet one who isn't)

Norah Jones? Jazz? BAH! Get out! I think if they'd acctualy had some proper jazz artists in the survey then jazz would've scored far higher.
 

Alex_P

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speedcoreXdandy said:
Norah Jones? Jazz? BAH! Get out! I think if they'd acctualy had some proper jazz artists in the survey then jazz would've scored far higher.
IT'S NOT A SURVEY!

They take a college's average SAT score as reported by the college, have someone mine the college's Facebook network thing for a list of the school's top musical favorites, and then plop a blob on the graph.

-- Alex
 

Horticulture

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Alex_P said:
speedcoreXdandy said:
Norah Jones? Jazz? BAH! Get out! I think if they'd acctualy had some proper jazz artists in the survey then jazz would've scored far higher.
IT'S NOT A SURVEY!

They take a college's average SAT score as reported by the college, have someone mine the college's Facebook network thing for a list of the school's top musical favorites, and then plop a blob on the graph.

-- Alex
Pfft, reading comprehension. You some kinda Radiohead fan or something?
 

sirdanrhodes

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Matronadena said:
Beethoven is great and all, But I'd go with Mozart's Requiem any day, and Brahms Piano Concerto No. 1 in D minor comes in a close second.
That's all well and good, when I'm in the mood. But for the most part, I'd rather have Metallica - Invisible Kid played in drop C.
 

xenos60

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This vast Yuppie conspiracy will stop at nothing to install a Starbucks on every corner, and an overpriced fusion restaurant next to each Starbucks. You must foil their schemes at every opportunity.
Do I get a flail?
 

Arassar

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Well my score was out beyond the right edge of that graph and I sure don't listen to Beethoven, so I immediately don't care about their little survey.
 

Alex_P

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Horticulture said:
Pfft, reading comprehension. You some kinda Radiohead fan or something?
Jesus no! I hate Radiohead.

Give me campy 70s/80s metal, give me hard rock, give me "singer/songwriter"-y music with awesome female vocals, give me the parodic musical soundtrack from Lexx's "Brigadoom", give me moderate doses of prog rock and space rock and acid rock, I will listen to all of those gladly...

But keep Radiohead the fuck away from me.

-- Alex
 

Matronadena

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sirdanrhodes said:
Matronadena said:
Beethoven is great and all, But I'd go with Mozart's Requiem any day, and Brahms Piano Concerto No. 1 in D minor comes in a close second.
That's all well and good, when I'm in the mood. But for the most part, I'd rather have Metallica - Invisible Kid played in drop C.
lol, I tend to throw in Tool right after those though.
 

Alex_P

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Hmm...

Upon comparing the grapsh and the data [http://musicthatmakesyoudumb.virgil.gr/schools.php], I have decided that the graph sucks even more than I first thought. It would seem intuitive to make the blobs represent some kind of range -- certainly it would be nice to know whether a particular musical act has a wide or narrow spread among different "tiers" of colleges. But that's not what the graph is doing. It's just putting the blobs near some kind of adjusted average or median or whatever.

If Band A gets set at 1050 because everybody likes it and that's the average score for all the schools tracked, that's very different from Band B being set at 1050 because only people from schools in the 1000-1100 area happen to like the band.

So all we really know from this graph is that only White People [http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/] like U2, Radiohead, and Counting Crows.

-- Alex
 

Abedeus

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Alex_P said:
Hmm...

Upon comparing the grapsh and the data [http://musicthatmakesyoudumb.virgil.gr/schools.php], I have decided that the graph sucks even more than I first thought. It would seem intuitive to make the blobs represent some kind of range -- certainly it would be nice to know whether a particular musical act has a wide or narrow spread among different "tiers" of colleges. But that's not what the graph is doing. It's just putting the blobs near some kind of adjusted average or median or whatever.

If Band A gets set at 1050 because everybody likes it and that's the average score for all the schools tracked, that's very different from Band B being set at 1050 because only people from schools in the 1000-1100 area happen to like the band.

So all we really know from this graph is that only White People [http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/] like U2, Radiohead, and Counting Crows.

-- Alex
Actually, that data in your link proves that the graph is semi-true.

Schools with the best average have a lot of bands like U2, Radiohead, Beatles, Pink Floyd or Led Zeppelin. Those dumbmer, however, listen to R&B, Rap and Hip Hop.
 

Erana

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There's like, no music in my category...
I must not exist! *cries*
Of course, I took it when I was twelve, or something like that.
Can I exist now?
 

TaborMallory

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Abedeus said:
TaborMallory said:
Abedeus said:
TaborMallory said:
I listen to soul-crushing, ball-dropping, kid-scaring death metal, and yet most regard me as "smart". But then again, this is America... hehehe (joking, don't hurt us, precious)

It's not the music that influences the scores, but the scores that influence the music.
Someone with a high I.Q. might appreciate classical music more than others.
I think it's the other way around.

Stupid people will say "Lol that Mozart is an idiot, no words or anything, he sucks" and go back to listen "street music". That is, crap... Sorry, rap.
That's exactly what I mean. How is it "the other way around"..?
You said:

Intelligent people think Mozart is good.

But that isn't really true. Some might just think his music did contribute a lot, but they don't like it.

While in reality, stupid people don't like him.

Because it's almost never "smart = like, therefore stupid = doesn't like". For example:

Stupid people like football. But intelligent people like football, too.

And then Math jumps out the window.
I never said anything absolute.
"Someone with a high I.Q. might appreciate classical music more than others"

It just means intelligent people tend to appreciate his works more than the other side of the I.Q. spectrum.
 

Alex_P

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Abedeus said:
Actually, that data in your link proves that the graph is semi-true.

Schools with the best average have a lot of bands like U2, Radiohead, Beatles, Pink Floyd or Led Zeppelin. Those dumbmer, however, listen to R&B, Rap and Hip Hop.
Okay, here's an example:

If you look at the top dozen schools, Radiohead and Coldplay are pretty much neck-and-neck (no surprise... they are both SWPL). So, why is Radiohead leading its little pack at ~1220 while Coldplay, at ~1120, sits close to the middle of the "rock" blob? We just looked at the list and saw that "smart" people like both, right?

Because people who don't go to the top-rated schools still like Coldplay.

Is Christian music where it is because only kinda-average-scoring kids like Christian music or because everybody loves Christian music equally so it averages out to average? The graph can't show that! And it would actually be pretty easy to put in, and it would make the graph at least moderately informative.

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Or, here, check this out:

Why is every genre label situated at the bottom of its genre category? (In particular, why is Beethoven this crazy outlier at ~1360 while "Classical" sits at a very modest ~970?) What does this tell us?

It tells us that more privileged kids are more likely to identify with individual bands rather than entire genres. That's really the most useful bit of information to come out of the whole graph.

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The design of the data representation is terrible. There's tons of data that could be extracted from the table that isn't. The pretty bubbles are hiding bad design. I expect much, much more from a guy doing Ph.D. research in data-mining at Caltech.

-- Alex
 

Lord George

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Queen and Kate west are on the same scale? Queen and Kate west. yeah this graph makes no sense at all
 

GyroCaptain

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Interesting note: people who didn't bother to name bands in specific but only genres placed lower in every case. Does this mean that indecisive people don't do well? Quite likely, I'd say. My picks tended to float toward the right side, I was surprised at the higher scores in a few places, say AC/DC >> Aerosmith, but I prefer AC/DC and got 1500/1600 on the SAT so who knows.
 

Silvertongue

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Personally, I feel as if different tastes might reflect different neurologies and learning styles, not different levels of intelligence. One of my beliefs is that everyone is intelligent about different things, to varying degrees.