MW2: BB chat reveals worse news

[Chesterfield Snapdragon McFisticuffs]

Knowing IW they would probably plant the torrents online so they could track em to find out who was stealing their precious game just to be able to sue the shit out of every person that tried to torrent the game. I think IW was taken over by console frat boys and they are doing everything in their power to screw us PC gamers over.

Id be quite impressed if they did that to be honest, as I see a good ten thousand torrenters on public trackers and a couple thousand on private ones torrenting it. Could you imagine that? IW making the biggest lawsuit in like, history?

 

[Kandon Arc]

I wasn't going to get this for PC anyway, but this still pisses me off. The comment about not allowing people to mod because they want you to 'play the game their way'. Attitudes like that are bad for gaming as a whole. They seem to be acting like it's a priveledge that we've been allowed to play their precious game and how dare we think that some things could be tweaked for the better.

I guess this is what happens when you get a series that is so popular that it no longer needs to try to convince people to play. Not good.

 

[Poomanchu745]

Knowing IW they would probably plant the torrents online so they could track em to find out who was stealing their precious game just to be able to sue the shit out of every person that tried to torrent the game. I think IW was taken over by console frat boys and they are doing everything in their power to screw us PC gamers over.

Id be quite impressed if they did that to be honest, as I see a good ten thousand torrenters on public trackers and a couple thousand on private ones torrenting it. Could you imagine that? IW making the biggest lawsuit in like, history?

They are gonna do I can feel it. I mean they are already robbing PC players by charging an extra 10 dollars so why not believe they would sue everyone who torrents the game for like 1,000,000 dollars?

I mean honestly this whole situation is the "if we don't stand up now we will get walked all over on in the future." IW needs a strong response from the PC community. Its not like the are making radical changes to features that we don't like or don't have a strong opinion on. They are changing things that PC gamers have always been outspoken on being the best parts of the multiplayer experience. Next thing you know they are going to give people 500 rounds for the noob tube that shoots 10 rounds a second. I mean, it almost sounds like this is all on purpose just to piss us off.

 

[TMAN10112]

Ya' know what? Dispite my support of the boycott, I had been on the fence about weather I would get this game or not.

But that's it.

Fuck you Activition, fuck you Infinity Ward, if you won't even consider anything your fanbase has been practically screaming at you for over a month, then I'll take my money to someone who will.

 

[7moreDead_v1legacy]

Ive seen this a few times, but I dont know what it means
what does P2P mean?
Im not overly savvy when it comes to that kind of stuff.

Peer-2-Peer. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-peer]

So basically you PC guys should buy it for the 360.

No seriously, I'd love to own you while you struggle to aim with dual analog. =)

My third 360 died ages ago and I can't be chewed to get it fixed...

We are a superior breed of gamers, dual sticks do not pose a problem - With over 100 keys on the keyboard and a mouse with 3+ buttons your comment if void *Cackle*...Ok I will get off the Elitist horse and let someone else ride it now.

But seriously...No lean?

Lack of DS support riled me, but not being able to lean really takes the sodding biscuit!

 

[Georgeman]

Oh dear. Activision's most controversial game ever?

"Greetings ladies and gentlemen. My name is Bobby Kottick. I have an exciting announcement to make to you. I present you with the Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 PC (Pheatures Cut) edition at the exciting price of 60$! Now with even less features!"

 

[Redemption003]

Great, now we have to listen to more Pc owners ***** on the forums!
Seriously though, you are getting the same treatment as everyone else. DEAL WITH IT.

No, because PC gamers have lived with the dedicated servers, mods and whatnow for a long time now. I'm actually struggling to think of a console equivalent to compare it to but can't for the life of me at the moment.

I'll go for a non-console gaming related analogy. Imagine that after every single meal you have somebody gives you cake. You love getting this cake, but after a nice long time of getting this cake after every meal somebody takes away this cakey goodness. You want your cake back.

Best I can do for now.

 

[TimeLord]

On the other hand, welcome to the real world.

How so?

Eactly, I work my ass off to get the things i want, for people that get everything from mommy they have no other recourse than to take it up the pooper and go aboout there day. But when you actually take the money out of your pocket and give it to someone you expect a quality product in exchange for said money. These douches are going backwards instead of forward by taking out things that shouldnt even be tought of when youre thinking about changing something.

Ooo! the game looks spiffy! It's so awesome! These kids think there little dingaling grows a few inches by buying the game cause everyone else likes it. That's like buying a mustang in all its glory, and then since Ford knows that everyone loved it and will buy the next one, they go and drop a 4 banger in the engine bay and make the AC shoot out sulfur.

So your basically saying, the people who are complaining are the people who are buying it because of hype and expect what its been hyped up to be?

If so I agree

 

[Poomanchu745]

I think i know who to blame for all this. MAC! Mac makes computers that even the dumbest person can use because they strip down the things that make a PC a PC until it is left with the equivalent of 1 pedal in a car. "2 pedals too many to deal with? Well heres a mac, its only got 1 for you to deal with!!!!"

I think IW thinks that taking out all these features is a good thing us retarded computer users will like, and well um....ya...

 

[quack35]

This is probably the worst news I've ever received.

Treyarch is officially better than Infinity Ward.

 

[Captain_Caveman]

I saw this response posted on another forum when some1 said it's better for PC because it's simpler like consoles; & thought it was relavent & insightful to console players who may be making this argument.

" I always think removing a players personal choice is always the way to go. I prefer that developers dumb everything down for me. Especially when it is a complete downgrade in performance.

What if you want different settings? Without host advantages and reliance on the host not having his virus scan running a scan, 3 instant messaging programs open, not to mention uploading pictures to his myspace and facebook accounts.

P2P will be worse on PCs than consoles simply cause they can do more than one thing at a time. "

 

[Pingieking]

as for lag free, Ive stated this before, get a better internet connection, upgrade your computer, quit whining.

also, why don't you make a game also, after all, its so easy, you said so yourself....

but Im not going to break topics with that. No one has yet defended why they continue to whine about a game that they claim they are not going to buy at all. yet again, if you don't like it, don't buy it, get on with your life, quit trying to ruin a game for the people who actually want to play that.

wait a second, that sounds familiar, oh yes, that's the exact same thing I said about L4D2 back when the fanboys started whining about that game also. you might not want it, but 2.2 million people already pre-ordered it, and to be honest, if I was a game developer, I wouldn't change a game for an individual when there is literally millions wanting to play it.

and I couldn't care less how much that person would swing his fists around in a temper tantrum because I decided to add things I thought that would make the game better when there are so many that are wanting the game how it is.

I'm starting to think that you're not capable of understanding what I've been trying to get across for the last 4 posts. So I'm going to give this one last shot:

1) Lag. Let me capitalize this so that you can understand it. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANY HOME INTERNET CONNECTION TO HANDLE A LARGE NUMBER OF PLAYERS OVER LARGE DISTANCES AND STILL KEEP PING TO ACCEPTABLE LEVELS! Even if you had the best computer out there won't change anything, thir i$·a simple fact that NO HOME INTERNET CONNECTION CAN DO IT! And this leads me into the second point. There is a reason why most games have servers, and it is because SERVERS DON'T USE HOME INTERNET CONNECTIONS AND ARE CAPABLE OF LINKING UP LARGE NUMBER OF PLAYERS!

2) Why should I make a game? I wrote an entire post on this, and it was so well written that I got offered sex for it (BTW, I gladly accept). I don't think I can catch lightning in a bottle twice in one day, so sadly, I'm going to have to quote myself:

I'm lazy because I can't outperform perfessionals at their job? Do you expect me to outplay NBA players if my favorite team plays badly? Do you expect a soldier to get off his/her ass and design their own armoured car if their current one is not good enough? Do you want the average Joe to get off his ass and learn how to perform surgury if his doctor screwed up?

How about you make your own clothes so that the professionals don't have to meet your expectations. What? "I dont have to make clothes because thats not what I do for a living"? Well, if so you're just a lazy tard. (that was sarcasm for anyone who failed to notice)

The people at IW are professionals, and they get paid for being that. Why am I lazy if they don't perform up to professional standards? I don't see DICE excluding all these features from their shooters; why should I accept it from IW? I am complaining to IW because I want to support IW, and I want them to have my money instead of DICE. But having said that, I still have my standards, and IW gives me no choice but to give my money to DICE because they failed to meet my expectations while DICE has.

3) I've already answered this question. TWICE! I've been able to explain advanced classical mechanics to 16 year old girls using more complicated and less entertaining language. I'll give it one more shot. I am complaining because I want to be IW's *****, but IW is making my life miserable. I am miserable because even a ***** has standards, and IW has decided not to meet those standards. I think my standards are fair, because almost any PC FPS with a development budget of over $500,000 has been able to meet those standards. IW has decided not to meet those standards, so I am miserable. Because now I have no choice but to become DICE's *****. But I don't want to be DICE's *****; I want to be IW's *****. That is why I am complaining, because I want IW to take me back.

Wow... quite a lot of self loathing there... but don't worry, I'm actually quite a happy person. Moving on...

4) Your last sentence is valid, except that this is not the case at all. I would be happily enjoying my MW2 trailer right now if all IW did was add new features that they thought were good. But they didn't. THEY TOOK AWAY FEATURES FOR NO REASON! I'll let you have the dedicated server point for free, but tell me why they took out leaning, left out the record feature, and shrunk the multiplayer by almost 50%! That is not adding features, that is gutting a game and asking us to pay for it. I wonder of Ferrari fans will ***** if Ferrari suddenly decided to stop including air conditioning, audio systems, and leather seats in their cars, while charging their customers an extra 20%. Better yet, imagine that all your food suddenly had it's taste removed. Would you be angry?

 

[Sanguinius- The Angel]

I've said it once, I'll say it again. Their idiocy is PRECISELY why I preordered it for PS3, and not for PC, which I would prefer it on.

 

[Thegreyfox666]

Everything sounds so bad now for PC. It's the same game as the consoles now more or less, really sucks because I was expecting more from the game on PC (as usual).

IW and Activision can't be that stupid, they just can't be. I'll have to play it to see whether it's good or not :/

 

[ZombieGenesis]

Every bad point thus far has been multiplayer oriented for PC.
I play the console version. Single player mostly.
I honestly don't care, but I see why people do who are so dedicated to the multiplayer experience. I'm not even sure if I still plan to get this really, the hype always puts me off so very badly.

 

[slopeslider]

Im trolling because im pointing out the obvious, yea, okay.

I was thinking about buying it for the PC, then my graphics card junked out, and yes, already the dedicated server bawwing had come to pass, so now Im going to have to get it for the 360 unless I decide to go get a ps3 since my motherboard hates all types of graphics cards, and spending upwards of $200 to be able to play a $60 game makes no sense when I can already play it on another console. As for lag, get a better internet connection, its not that hard unless your still using mommies 28.8 kbps while living in her basement. as for hitboxes, all of that is hard coded into the game, so I fail to see why having a player hosted server would change it, yet again for lag, get a better computer, better internet connection, or quit whining.

You are simply making it clear that you have no idea of the issues that having non-dedicated servers in games cause.

Im making it clear that almost every console game does not have dedicated servers, and yet its all okay.

I am going to laugh very, very hard when CoD6 comes out and the multiplayer system actually works.

Complaining about things you don't like in a game is a gamer's god-given right. We're the motherfucking CUSTOMERS

no your not, you have yet to buy from them, right now your the potential customer, now had you actually bought the game you would then be known as the average customer.

so really it would make more sense to buy the game then complain about it.

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SPOILER: You betray your entire team in the 3rd to last mission due to your family being held hostage. Price gets shot AGAIN, and this time he REALLY dies.

RAGE! THE GAME IS RUINED! NOW THERE IS NO MORE REASON TO BUY IT! obviously now I have to petition IW to completely change the story so that now I can enjoy it again!

Spoiler: RAGE!

Im still trying to understand the gripe. So IW doesnt want the PC community to fuck with its game. IE mods. And you guys flip out?

Why?

What does the game lack that mods needs to fill the gap for?

Half Life lacked multiplayer thus multiplayer mods were born.

Mods are born out of necessity. MW2 needs no mods, its a fine game as is.

As for the dedicated servers. IW claims this "new" system is better. So why do you try it before bitching?

Console FPS have been using simliar systems for years and for the most part its been absolutly no problem at all.

Get over yourselves, and either buy and play the damn game , or get a job at Ifiniity ward and actual do something beside whining.

because its easier to sit around and complain than to actually do anything, just look at politics. Had the Ugandan genocide had this much attention the LRA would of been arrested for war crimes to violent to name without fear of modification.

And yes, if you look at all six hundred of the "bawww, MW2 sucks now!" threads, you will notice the ones mainly complaining are PC gamers.

I for one love the idea of thinking of a game on all platforms as just one single game. It makes coding tons easier and in the end actually saves money if you think about it.

Yes so every game from now on should look like the wii version, because screw catering to each systems strength. HECK, make every game like the ds version, that'll save time developing pesky coding!

 

[TxMxRonin]

I was honestly wavering between buy and not buying for the past two days and now I'm damn sure not buying it. P2P servers and 9v9 player max? GO SCREW!

 

[McGee]

Moriarte: Ignoring IW.net, is the PC version a direct port of the console version?

Mackey-IW: No, PC has custom stuff like mouse control, text chat in game, and graphics settings.



Answer of the year. I love it.

 

[Sven und EIN HUND]

Fuck sake.... I put up with IW's other shit, the whole dedicated servers business, and I was probably going to buy the game a few weeks after release... Now I most certainly will not be wasting my money on it.

What the fuck IW, dick move.