MW2 Glitch= Temporary ban

[Revolutionary]

I know that glitch, its halriarous.

 

[Rooster893]

Wow. Thats bad.

They could just, you know, fix the glitch?

Xbox Live never patches glitches.

Believe me, I know.

 

[manaman]

Wow. Thats bad.

They could just, you know, fix the glitch?

Not everyone updates. But then again I suppose it being on the 360 means they can force it.

I don't know my boxes are not hooked up to the internet.

of course if they force it people will ***** and moan and some peoples xboxes will blow up or something.

Like my PS3 did? Only less blowing up but still plenty of smoke and flames.

I hate it whenever I pop in a game for the first time and my box starts crying about needing an update.

I really hated it when I got some time to play a new game finally and had to spend most of installing an update the setting up a Mii ripoff avatar that is never going to be seen by anyone.

So yeah I don't really like forced updates myself.

 

[mornal]

It seems a bit of an overreaction to ban from Live completely, but if someone is abusing a mistake in the programming they deserve punishment.

Just because you can do something doesn't mean that you should.

 

[Jazzyluv2]

omfg, so many people who are too pussy to learn to adapt, Ive now seen this glitch. Its so easily countered, really it is.

exploitation of mechanics created some of the deepest gameplay yet. Quakeworlds entire gameplay is now based off an unintentional movement glitch that caused movement to be much more dynamic. Stacking air units in Starcraft made some very deep and mindful tactics that would never be possible without them. Dolphin diving, prone-spam, squad switching, and C4 chucking made for some very exciting matches in BF2 and made the game overall better than after it was patched out. Strafe jumping in Quake 3 made movement much better and game flow alot better. People exploiting glitches is a fundamental example of pushing a game to its limit. And as long as dynamic combat comes from it, a solid counter is found, either through skill or style, then it is acceptable.

PUSH THE GAME BEYOND THE INTENDED LIMITS

The best games of all time were "made" or fleshed out because of this

Starcraft, quakeworld, quake 3, and Street fighter are built on glitches and stay strong to this day.

said in a post i made earlier, but seriously, there are probably reliable counters to it. There were reliable counter to C4 chucking in BF2

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3638348065270997363&ei=71YZS8_-C4fCrQKbqfDpBw&q=snarf&hl=en#

If that can be countered, and it was, still a part of the game, Then this jav shit can be countered with ease. This was early on in BF2 when people were still figuring out the game, eventually it was countered with a style shift in competitive players adopting the assualt class, and a heavier emphasis on staying apart from one another during pushes.

Perhaps you should learn how to counter the glitch, rather than cry to IW, or Microsoft. Its the same group of people that made all the bad updates happen in TF2, from removing bonk strafing, to super increased self damage on soldiers cause they were stupid. The people that forced the patching out of the MUCH deeper gameplay of early game Battlefield 2... It can't be helped i guess

 

[The Bandit]

So...they are banning players...for using a glitch...When it's the devs fault that the glitch even exists...

Yeah that makes plenty of sense.

If you leave your door unlocked at night, it doesn't mean you deserve to have your things stolen.

 

[The Warden]

Wut.
How do you blame someone for using an exploit to win when it's YOUR fault because it was YOU who fucked up?

 

[Zing]

Blizzard's been doing the exact same thing since release, their opinion can change sometimes but I've been banned for exploiting guards on roofs and other stuff, I've read about many other exploits getting mass banned, Shadowstep bug in WSG for instance.

 

[Zing]

Wut.
How do you blame someone for using an exploit to win when it's YOUR fault because it was YOU who fucked up?

That's a nice excuse if you're exploiting, but many people believe it's just as bad. Just because something is there doesn't mean it's okay to exploit it, sorry. If someone positions a product in a store incorrectly where it can be stolen without being noticed is it all of a sudden okay because "THEY" made a mistake by putting it there? NO. You still broke the law.

 

[The Warden]

Wut.
How do you blame someone for using an exploit to win when it's YOUR fault because it was YOU who fucked up?

That's a nice excuse if you're exploiting, but many people believe it's just as bad. Just because something is there doesn't mean it's okay to exploit it, sorry. If someone positions a product in a store incorrectly where it can be stolen without being noticed is it all of a sudden okay because "THEY" made a mistake by putting it there? NO. You still broke the law.

I do believe there's a fine line between Real Life and Gaming you aren't seeing here.
The point is, in a game, if you fuck up, people WILL use it to their advantage, and really, who can blame them?
It's basic human instinct.
But the game sucks and it's full of 12 year olds, so really, who cares?

 

[DoW Lowen]

Some guy did this to me earlier, I reported his ass straight away. Considering I have marathon, lightweight and commando and I knife everyone this bodes very ill to me.

 

[keybird]

I have discovered the solution long ago to this, just don't kill him. RUN AWAY!

 

[Zing]

Some guy did this to me earlier, I reported his ass straight away. Considering I have marathon, lightweight and commando and I knife everyone this bodes very ill to me.

Well at least your not exploiting, but that shit is the lamest. I can top kills doing it with my eyes closed, it's so imbalanced.

Wut.
How do you blame someone for using an exploit to win when it's YOUR fault because it was YOU who fucked up?

That's a nice excuse if you're exploiting, but many people believe it's just as bad. Just because something is there doesn't mean it's okay to exploit it, sorry. If someone positions a product in a store incorrectly where it can be stolen without being noticed is it all of a sudden okay because "THEY" made a mistake by putting it there? NO. You still broke the law.

I do believe there's a fine line between Real Life and Gaming you aren't seeing here.
The point is, in a game, if you fuck up, people WILL use it to their advantage, and really, who can blame them?
It's basic human instinct.
But the game sucks and it's full of 12 year olds, so really, who cares?

I know there's a line, however the example still fits. An exploit is barely "fucking up", it's just something that slipped through the cracks, if you're taking advantage of such a glitch then you have to be prepared for the consequences or don't do it at all.

I'm probably as far from a fanboy as it gets, but the game isn't bad, the single player is pretty amazing, albeit short, and despite the problems the online provides hours of entertainment(that's all we're after right?). But the Multiplayer is poorly implemented, there's way too many glitches, lag and imbalances like the commando/marathon stuff, and grenade launchers and double shotties and so on..

 

[DoW Lowen]

Some guy did this to me earlier, I reported his ass straight away. Considering I have marathon, lightweight and commando and I knife everyone this bodes very ill to me.

Well at least your not exploiting, but that shit is the lamest. I can top kills doing it with my eyes closed, it's so imbalanced.

While I agree it is quite OP sometimes, my Kill/Death Ratio moved from 0.70 to 0.90 in just a few hours. I got bored of "take cover, pop out, shoot, take cover... repeat", whether or not it's broken it's still FUN. Besides much more broken things in the game that easily top that *cough* Akimbo Ranger *cough*

 

[chronobreak]

Wut.
How do you blame someone for using an exploit to win when it's YOUR fault because it was YOU who fucked up?

Very simply, actually, because it isn't a matter of blame. As I've already stated, blame isn't going to solve any problem. The game was released with a bug, just like nearly every other game availible. It doesn't matter who is at fault, what matters is people are breaking the terms of use of the game. Simple as that. The game being released with an exploit cetainly does not give people carte blanch to use the mechanism to ruin the experience of other players who are abiding by the rules.

If you buy a gun, and wave it around and point it and it misfires in your friend's face because of something wrong with it, you would still get your license to own a gun taken away (at the very least), because you were not using it as it was intended. You showed that you are not responsible enough to handle it. Microsoft is effectively giving people a warning, that if they use their products as they were not intended, there may be consequences.

People can blather on and on about it being fair or not, but it won't do much good on an internet forum. Speak with your wallets and don't support them anymore if you disagree with this. Sadly, people talk a big game, but we'll see what happens when the next COD rolls out, and all those same people just HAVE to have it. Besides, it's MS's console, it's MS's internet service, and it's IW's game. If people think they have any expectation whatsoever of any sort of rights, while they are breaking the rules, they are seriously deluded.

That's "wut".

 

[lizards]

Wow. Thats bad.

They could just, you know, fix the glitch?

This is Microsoft, they would rather ban a player instead of fixing something anyday.

are you a game progammer?

 

[DigitalSushi]

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So...they are banning players...for using a glitch...When it's the devs fault that the glitch even exists...

Yeah that makes plenty of sense.

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But if people exploit them to their advantage they deserve to be punished as well for ruining the game for others by using glitches of that sort.

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When it's the devs fault that the glitch even exists...

Not really, the glitch wasn't part of the intended programming, and the glitch offers a huge advantage to those who know how to exploit it.

When a gamer figures out a workaround to what the game devs had in mind, then that is clever and the game designers themselves think it cool, a bug that wasn't spotted used as an advantage?, not cool.

So...they are banning players...for using a glitch...When it's the devs fault that the glitch even exists...

Yeah that makes plenty of sense.

The information has been out there that bans will be handed out for exploiting this since it became a known glitch. If you don't care enough to read that information while you basically grief everyone in your games, well sucks to be you. I wish they were handing out permanent bans, this glitch is just ridiculous sometimes.

Too all three of you, you seem to forget that if they didn't test it out first AND LOOK for glitches before release, then they didn't do their job.

And now that it's known, you FIX THE BUG, not ban people for being tempted by it.

Or is that just so impractical for gamers to conceive, that the devs fix the game that they released.

Multiplayer gaming on the PC has always had exploits and glitches that once found would be patched, you can't expect the devs to spot everything.

Also back in the PC days a glitch only meant an advantage over a single round, with the console generation having leaderboards and leveling and other stuff that gets nailed to your avatar then the advantage is permanent.