MW2 Glitch= Temporary ban

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Xhu

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So... the developers were at fault for making a mistake and letting a bug through? Okay, fair enough. To me it seems like a niche bug, one that might be difficult to find during beta testing, and things like this do find their way into released games. Sure, they shouldn't, but they do. It happens. Blame the developers/beta testers if you wish.

What I don't understand is why the mistakes of this group of people should necessarily mean that, whilst they work on correcting it, the game should be ruined for those who don't use such a glitch. If it was quite clearly an oversight - and all of you saying that it's the developer's fault seem to agree so - then this means it shouldn't be in the game. It should be against the rules. Whilst they release a fix or patch, all they are doing is ensuring that the people who continue to gain an unintended advantage [and it looks like a pretty powerful glitch] don't get to play until it has been fixed. In essence, they are just removing the glitch from the game early by temporarily removing those who use it, and perhaps deterring others from doing so.
 

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imahobbit4062 said:
Mondzo said:
imahobbit4062 said:
Mondzo said:
imahobbit4062 said:
Ok, IW Seriously needs to fix the fucking AC-130, I fire 2 stingers mere seconds apart and it keeps on dropping flares.
Above statment must have been a joke right?

It´s thats planes defence strategy, it´s like u would take away the scope from a sniper rifle or magazines from ur LMG.
God your thick.
You fire 1 ocket and it uses flares fair enough, you fire the 2nd one ad it deploys more flares, its not supposed to do that. It makes it unstoppable.
Also, apparently you can knife through solid objects now.
Wow, use another weapon. shoot it down or something.
It is supposed to do that, do some resarch. God....
That plane shoot flares if it get a rocket lock, that just how it its.

Yh knife is way to powerful, it´s very nice that i can stab someone in their heel
and one-shot em. (Sarcasm)
You dont get it. Its not supposed to drop 2 sets of flares that fast online. You only get 2 shots with a Stinger in the first place.
Omg, time your rockets better? And dont wine about modern time aircraft defence systems.
You know it will drop them, so out smart it. Im done.

Ty stinkychops :)
 

Alphavillain

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chronobreak said:
Glademaster said:
Does that mean they will ban people for doing Jumps aswell?
You mean the elevator thing? Why not get those guys too, I don't need someone shooting me from 100 feet in the air. Unless you mean just regular jumping, which is also ridiculous in this game. I'm relatively sure soldiers engaging in real modern warfare don't have spring-loaded boots that make them hop all over the map like jackrabbits.
Yeah, I agree with the whole jumping thing. It's deeply annoying to be killed by someone jumping up and down while shooting at you. Just goes to show that it's best to exploit the flaws/unrealistic nature of a game like this, though: I don't blame the players (THAT much!) but more the game design.
 

MiracleOfSound

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daheikmeister said:
miracleofsound said:
daheikmeister said:
miracleofsound said:
This is bullcrap.

How are they going to prove people were doing it? Other players reporting them? Please.
Remember the kill cam? Playing a game still has records online, just like with Halo's movie capabilities. If someone is reported, then the company checks the records. If they find that someone did it, they ban them
In theory yes, but I can't see IW trawling through millions of matches to ascertain who was gltiching and who wasn't.
You don't have to do much to find them. The game is code when you come down to the basics. The glitch will pop up as a certain line of code, so all you really have to do is check the data records for that line.
Aha... that's good news. I hope they at least suspend them, the glitch is getting really annoying at this stage.
 

Antari

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dududf said:
So...they are banning players...for using a glitch...When it's the devs fault that the glitch even exists...

Yeah that makes plenty of sense.
They have the money ... they don't care about the customer anymore.
 

MiracleOfSound

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stinkychops said:
miracleofsound said:
This is bullcrap.

How are they going to prove people were doing it? Other players reporting them? Please.

The report button on LIVE is a joke.

It's a very annoying glitch too, like Martyrdom times 10.
Hey, whats up with the report system.

It says that I have like 65% of people I've versed have reported me negatively for playing aggressively and 15% have reported me for trashtalking. Hell I rarely use a mic. I have 5 stars and 80% of players are reporting me, wtf. No-one even bothers reporting anyway. I've asked my friends and they have similar results.
I know, it's fucked up man.

I have a 55% negative report rate, even though the only time I ever use my mic is with buddies and I never trash talk. Ever. When I get assholes trash talking me I laugh at it.

The report system is an absolute joke.
 

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This reminds me of a time I saw a video with a guy complaining he was banned from Xbox LIVE after playing a round of Halo 3.

Turns out, he was playing completely fair with no glitches or exploits whatsoever. But when he threw a grenade at someone, it passed through them, and I suppose it registered as a glitch to Microsoft so he was banned.

That I believe is a difference between a glitch and exploiting the glitch, sometimes the player won't even know they did anything wrong, and yet they'll be punished all the same. That's just not a good way of handling bans.
 

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Dexter111 said:
silverbullet1989 said:
so how do microsoft know who is glitching? do they have an elite division playing cod 24/7?
They don't... it's an empty threat, they may ban a few dozen or maybe hundred people while representatives are Online and see it for themselves or whatever but it's the "thought" that counts o_O
suppose... its not like there gonna ban the majority of players, i mean i was on a game just now and everyone was doing it, i just gave up in the end n sat back sniping them all
 

Jdopus

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Oh yes, it's really unfair to ban people for using glitches.

Because evidently is the developers miss a single tiny glitch in a huge game then you should be allowed to exploit it to a ridiculous degree against other players.

Good I say, using a glitch is exactly the same as using an exploit, you're twisting the game in ways it wasn't intended to gain an unfair advantage over other players.

Edit: Also, note that IW are working on a fix for the issue, banning is just a short term solution.
 

dududf

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ColdStorage said:
dududf said:
SantoUno said:
dududf said:
So...they are banning players...for using a glitch...When it's the devs fault that the glitch even exists...

Yeah that makes plenty of sense.
But if people exploit them to their advantage they deserve to be punished as well for ruining the game for others by using glitches of that sort.
ColdStorage said:
dududf said:
When it's the devs fault that the glitch even exists...
Not really, the glitch wasn't part of the intended programming, and the glitch offers a huge advantage to those who know how to exploit it.

When a gamer figures out a workaround to what the game devs had in mind, then that is clever and the game designers themselves think it cool, a bug that wasn't spotted used as an advantage?, not cool.
MetallicaRulez0 said:
dududf said:
So...they are banning players...for using a glitch...When it's the devs fault that the glitch even exists...

Yeah that makes plenty of sense.
The information has been out there that bans will be handed out for exploiting this since it became a known glitch. If you don't care enough to read that information while you basically grief everyone in your games, well sucks to be you. I wish they were handing out permanent bans, this glitch is just ridiculous sometimes.
Too all three of you, you seem to forget that if they didn't test it out first AND LOOK for glitches before release, then they didn't do their job.

And now that it's known, you FIX THE BUG, not ban people for being tempted by it.

Or is that just so impractical for gamers to conceive, that the devs fix the game that they released.
Multiplayer gaming on the PC has always had exploits and glitches that once found would be patched, you can't expect the devs to spot everything.

Also back in the PC days a glitch only meant an advantage over a single round, with the console generation having leaderboards and leveling and other stuff that gets nailed to your avatar then the advantage is permanent.
I'm taking it you didn't bother reading my other posts in this thread, excluding those two, I've already talked about it and I'm not going to repeat myself.
 

TimeLord

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dududf said:
So...they are banning players...for using a glitch...When it's the devs fault that the glitch even exists...

Yeah that makes plenty of sense.
Indeed

Furburt said:
Wow. Thats bad.

They could just, you know, fix the glitch?
Yea that would require less hassle I would have thought
 

chronobreak

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Timelord91 said:
Yea that would require less hassle I would have thought
Once again, they are working to fix it right now. Did you read any posts in this thread before making this contribution? You aren't addressing any of the points that have been brought up in these five pages.
 

The Heik

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miracleofsound said:
daheikmeister said:
miracleofsound said:
daheikmeister said:
miracleofsound said:
This is bullcrap.

How are they going to prove people were doing it? Other players reporting them? Please.
Remember the kill cam? Playing a game still has records online, just like with Halo's movie capabilities. If someone is reported, then the company checks the records. If they find that someone did it, they ban them
In theory yes, but I can't see IW trawling through millions of matches to ascertain who was gltiching and who wasn't.
You don't have to do much to find them. The game is code when you come down to the basics. The glitch will pop up as a certain line of code, so all you really have to do is check the data records for that line.
Aha... that's good news. I hope they at least suspend them, the glitch is getting really annoying at this stage.
Yeah I totally agree. It makes the martyrdom of CoD4 look enjoyable by comparison
 

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As I said on another thread:

RyVal said:
rockingnic said:
Glitch or not, they're suspending people for days, weeks, months maybe if they use this, even just once. I never got killed by it yet though, but I have seen it on youtube. But if anyone is at fault, it's IW for not testing the weapon correctly.
Okay, that is just bullshit - and self-serving bullshit at that.

By this logic, if you take a golf club and use it to smash someone's head in, you shouldn't be held accountable; after all, its the developers' fault for not designing the golf club with a prevention mechanism which stops you from being able to use it as a weapon.

You can't "accidentally" abuse this sort of glitch, especially in the instance of people doing it more than once.

All I see is another crowd of people whining about "The Man" coming to spoil their (illegal by the EULA) fun.
 

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imahobbit4062 said:
Mondzo said:
imahobbit4062 said:
Mondzo said:
imahobbit4062 said:
Ok, IW Seriously needs to fix the fucking AC-130, I fire 2 stingers mere seconds apart and it keeps on dropping flares.
Above statment must have been a joke right?

It´s thats planes defence strategy, it´s like u would take away the scope from a sniper rifle or magazines from ur LMG.
God your thick.
You fire 1 ocket and it uses flares fair enough, you fire the 2nd one ad it deploys more flares, its not supposed to do that. It makes it unstoppable.
Also, apparently you can knife through solid objects now.
Wow, use another weapon. shoot it down or something.
It is supposed to do that, do some resarch. God....
That plane shoot flares if it get a rocket lock, that just how it its.

Yh knife is way to powerful, it´s very nice that i can stab someone in their heel
and one-shot em. (Sarcasm)
You dont get it. Its not supposed to drop 2 sets of flares that fast online. You only get 2 shots with a Stinger in the first place.
planes have more than one set of flares