MW2 Glitch= Temporary ban

[powernade]

If you actually take a look at the glitch, its not that bad. You even have to die to use it, I would be fine with people even using this as a deathstreak perk or something. So as far as glitches go, this is pretty weak. I see no reason why they would be banning people for this, but then again most people who play the game are whiney tightwads so I could see how Infinity Ward may actually be getting pressure from the comunity, though it wouldn't surprise me if the developers were just as petty and bitchy as most of the fanbase.

 

[jakefongloo221]

So...they are banning players...for using a glitch...When it's the devs fault that the glitch even exists...

Yeah that makes plenty of sense.

But if people exploit them to their advantage they deserve to be punished as well for ruining the game for others by using glitches of that sort.

But it's such a lame glitch. I mean you could just fire the javelin into the ground as soon as you see the enemy or even better aim at the enemy's feet where you may even survive. This gives barely any more of an "unfair advantage" than having any explosive weapon like a grenade launcher.

And I think it is a pretty cool element of the game, how sometimes it is better not to shoot to not activate the explosive on them and do suicide bombers not exist in real life, which MW2 is apparently based on?

This glitch needs just an official tweak, adjust to make it a bit fairer but in principal it is interesting to say the least.

I mean imagine if the first person who figured out how to rocket jump got banned and removed to be labelled as "cheating"?

how long have you been playing? You can't lock onto targets closer then like 200 feet and it takes a full 15-30 seconds to switch to it from main hand and lock on and then it flies around in a cirlce after going straight up into the air AND THEN IT hits something! wanna know why? its almost as powerful as a predetor missle. When you kill someone he poops a predetor missle yah thats fair! especially to people who know the glitch try to run away and an ally shoots the guy anyway killing aformentioned running dudes. And if you don't shoot him he knifes you. You have to see the guy first at a massive distance or you WILL die.

Also can i kill the rocket jumper? if he dies does he also kill me? is he inside something that he can shoot out of but i can't hit him... no? then its not the fucking same if you can kill him and not have instant death consequences brought on you then it really doesn't matter much.

 

[L33tsauce_Marty]

Wow. Thats bad.

They could just, you know, fix the glitch?

IW fix things? Talk about being overly optimistic.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

Pass tense, that implies that after they release it they find bugs and fix them.

so I say again, is it just so impractical for gamers to conceive that devs fix the game that they have released. I.E. PATCHES, you don't ban them for using the bugs "For the lols" you fix it and move on to the next one, I'm not expecting perfect on release, that's just idiotic, but I expect it to be fixed, not banning people for using it.

There seems then to be an implication that they should be able to magic up a release the minute a bug is identified. While this is sometimes true (generally, the hardest part of quashing a bug is replicating the problem) you have to consider that the bug may be the result of several other factors which can make a solution more difficult to find. Or, more generally, I suspect you'll find that the reason a patch isn't sent out instantly is simply because people tend to complain more about constant updates than they do about the time it takes to solve whole piles of bugs instantly. Plus, a patch that resolves many bugs is generally easier to manage than dozens of smaller patches.

Apologies on my inability to read. There were several people complaining about the mere presence of a glitch and yours caught my eye after I wrote my first reply and I didn't give it the dillgence it deserved.

 

[Kukakkau]

That's probably just Scaremongering to keep people from abusing it too much while the Patch undergoes some tedious Certification by Microsoft or whatever they have to do to publish it live. They already patched this on the PC version yesterday... so yeah.

If I'd have an XBox and would ever consider buying this game in a far far away reality, I'd probably be doing this all day...

"Wow, some of you think cheating a glitch is OK. Um. If I install my car stereo wrong and it disables my door locks, its not ok to STEAL MY CAR."

WTF is up with these marketing people and Stealing Cars? What next? If people are talking bad about their games and platforms it's like making someone pull down the window with a gun and jacking their car?
And if that'd happen he could sue the radio-company... so basically himself, or Activision?

Seriously this again reinforces my decision of never ever buying a XBox and staying with the PC, cause I don't like obviously mentally deficient people like this clown telling me what I can and can not do with my hardware or in a game I've bought cause he had a bad day...

Nice example

Yeah my friend on live got the message about this and, after being against a team of javelin martyrs who were all around 8 and "didn't care if they were ruining the game", I say they deserve it.

Although if IW ran a beta this would never have happened to begin with

 

[jakefongloo221]

If you actually take a look at the glitch, its not that bad. You even have to die to use it, I would be fine with people even using this as a deathstreak perk or something. So as far as glitches go, this is pretty weak. I see no reason why they would be banning people for this, but then again most people who play the game are whiney tightwads so I could see how Infinity Ward may actually be getting pressure from the comunity, though it wouldn't surprise me if the developers were just as petty and bitchy as most of the fanbase.

So wait this is your 2nd post...did you post on this thread earlier? i'm not really going to check but if you did you made an account clicked the verfication e-mail and typed up this to cry about bitchy whiny players... kettle pot kettle pot

 

[jakefongloo221]

they did a multi-player beta check the you-tube video dates on the beta videos.......fail

Edit: fuck didn't mean to post twice in a row i messed up. it still doesn't diminish my point

 

[WindKnight]

(1) Infinity Ward are working on a fix for the glitch. the banning is a punishment/discouragement to stop greifers from running rampant till its fixed.

(2) cheats deserve what they get. lose two weeks of multiplayer privileges? hope that teaches you a lesson you bottom feeding glitcher.

(3) USING GLITCHES TO GAIN AN ADVANTAGE IN MULTIPLAYER IS AGAINST THE LIVE SERVICES Terms and Conditions - in other words, by using the glitch, THEY ARE VIOLATING THE AGREEMENT THEY MADE WITH MICROSOFT. Microsoft are therefore well within their rights to ban these people.

 

[dududf]

*Page saving snip*

Yeah OK I see your point, and yes I agree that a slap on the wrist can be used to stop them, but a 2 week ban? That needs sine reconsidering.

One last thing, I burst out into laughter in the middle of reading your response.

Wanna know why?

This would've been better if they had Dedicated servers XD I just couldn't stop laughing for a solid 15 seconds on that. (Yes I know dedi servers wouldn't work on consoles, but the thought of it was enough to make me laugh/giggle like a school girl)

But dedicated servers DO work on consoles and have been a huge success with the likes of Resistance 2 and Warhawk. I mean if Microsoft are wondering how to pay for them, how about that XBL Gold membership fee, $50 per person per year = a lota enchiladas. And it's not like they are blowing all that money on WiFi, blu-ray laser diodes or motion sensing controllers for each console they make.

But the thing is Xbox 1 was such a HUGE loss for Microsoft they pretty much have to make a huge profit with 360 to make the whole exercise on consoles worth while.

This is news to me, first I've EVER heard of dedi on consoles, I thought it just didn't work like that... >.<
______________________________________________________________________________________________

Pass tense, that implies that after they release it they find bugs and fix them.

so I say again, is it just so impractical for gamers to conceive that devs fix the game that they have released. I.E. PATCHES, you don't ban them for using the bugs "For the lols" you fix it and move on to the next one, I'm not expecting perfect on release, that's just idiotic, but I expect it to be fixed, not banning people for using it.

There seems then to be an implication that they should be able to magic up a release the minute a bug is identified. While this is sometimes true (generally, the hardest part of quashing a bug is replicating the problem) you have to consider that the bug may be the result of several other factors which can make a solution more difficult to find. Or, more generally, I suspect you'll find that the reason a patch isn't sent out instantly is simply because people tend to complain more about constant updates than they do about the time it takes to solve whole piles of bugs instantly. Plus, a patch that resolves many bugs is generally easier to manage than dozens of smaller patches.

Apologies on my inability to read. There were several people complaining about the mere presence of a glitch and yours caught my eye after I wrote my first reply and I didn't give it the dillgence it deserved.

On the inability to read part, no worries it's just two letters, and easily missed.

AS to the rest, I did not know people complain about a bunch o' updates, I don't mind when Steam updates something for me, just means that the game just got a bit better

But in this particular scenario with it just being something rather simple? eehhh.... if it's a big enough problem that you are banning accounts, then it's a big enough of a problem to just patch it yeah know?

Ahh well.
______________________________________________________________________________________________

As you can probably guess I'm with the corporations on this one (never really thought I'd be in this position, lol), though I recognise that it's largely a mess of their own making.

I'd be suprised if the gman WASN'T with the corporations 24/7

*Buh Dum Tissshhh*

 

[The Heik]

This is bullcrap.

How are they going to prove people were doing it? Other players reporting them? Please.

Remember the kill cam? Playing a game still has records online, just like with Halo's movie capabilities. If someone is reported, then the company checks the records. If they find that someone did it, they ban them

 

[Wicky_42]

As you can probably guess I'm with the corporations on this one (never really thought I'd be in this position, lol), though I recognise that it's largely a mess of their own making.

I'd be suprised if the gman WASN'T with the corporations 24/7

*Buh Dum Tissshhh*

Damn, got me there

 

[MiracleOfSound]

This is bullcrap.

How are they going to prove people were doing it? Other players reporting them? Please.

Remember the kill cam? Playing a game still has records online, just like with Halo's movie capabilities. If someone is reported, then the company checks the records. If they find that someone did it, they ban them

In theory yes, but I can't see IW trawling through millions of matches to ascertain who was gltiching and who wasn't.

 

[Danpascooch]

Wow. Thats bad.

They could just, you know, fix the glitch?

Why fix the glitch when they could keep it there to frustrate innocent players having it used against them, and punish the people who do it accidentally?

 

[Carlston]

So basicly it gives you a free Marty like from the 1st game?

Just because a bug slips through, people using it (who recalls factory in MW where underground people went into the walls?)

Cheating is cheating, just cause a glitch exisits doesn't mean your in the rules.

So what is microsoft just riding MW2 to get people banned so they buy new Live subcriptions?

Seriously it's a bug someone can do easily without knowing it franticly swaping weapons... but hey another cash chinh for Xbox...ahh the microsoft true colors are bleeding again. To bleed the customers. Now can Xbox live prove "intent"

 

[jonnosferatu]

This reminds me of a Simpsons episode from a while back:

"Yes, he got an A. I gave a test on State Capitals and forgot to take down the map. Everyone got an A."

Except now it's:
"Yes, he was suspended. I gave a test on State Capitals but couldn't be bothered to take down the map or tell the class that anyone caught looking at it would be cited for cheating. EVERYONE was suspended."

 

[Saucycarpdog]

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/12/microsoft-difference-between-cheat-exploit-none-banned.ars

People have always wondered, what is the difference between a cheat and an exploit? Microsoft says none.

A new glitch going around in MW2, called the javelin glitch, is supposedly what started this. If a person is caught using this glitch to their advantage, they will recieve a temporary ban of up to 2 weeks. Microsoft has said that it has already handed out bans.

I guess glitchers now have to be wary of what they do.

Cheats and exploits are one and the same really, but I think that there is a small difference.

ALSO: Are you the same Saucy Carp Dog that I have known on XBL? You might remember AirSparrowHawk better than me... I was in his clan xD

Someone has found out! All is lost!

 

[The Heik]

This is bullcrap.

How are they going to prove people were doing it? Other players reporting them? Please.

Remember the kill cam? Playing a game still has records online, just like with Halo's movie capabilities. If someone is reported, then the company checks the records. If they find that someone did it, they ban them

In theory yes, but I can't see IW trawling through millions of matches to ascertain who was gltiching and who wasn't.

You don't have to do much to find them. The game is code when you come down to the basics. The glitch will pop up as a certain line of code, so all you really have to do is check the data records for that line.

 

[I Stomp on Kittens]

Wow. Thats bad.

They could just, you know, fix the glitch?

They are getting there

 

[Dogstile]

Wow. Thats bad.

They could just, you know, fix the glitch?

They are, if you decided to read the link. nice job on that.

Anyway, i'm glad they are at least trying to sort out this glitch, the amount of people who use it is insane.