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BugISwiser

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Oh the scene with the gay mood lighting, gay enthusiasm shown by the actors themselves. I think spider man had some peculiar steamy scene with Dr. Octopus not entirely sure but spider man seemed to enjoy every close moment they had together.
 

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Eldritch Warlord said:
I have a prejudice against homosexuals too.

At least that's what I'm told because I view it as a form of insanity (it fits the definition).
I agree. I don't hate them, I just think it's a disorder.
 

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Well khewit everyone in the spider man movies contributes to the overall effect of the gay theme that is being portrayed in the movie. Although this movie does send some subliminal messages to the audience with men thinking of sucking on lollipops and women playing with mango's/melons etc....
 

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as long as he doesn´t act upon those urges of "killing all gay man" let him live, "tolerance" and "acceptance" comes from both parties, it would be hypocrite to insult him or make fun of him for his points of view...

if someone (you or him) opens the subject for debate, well you can tell him why you think he is wrong, but never try to force your beliefs in to anyone
 

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Silva said:
Eldritch Warlord said:
Even if a committee of doctors feels the need to be politically correct it doesn't change the fact that not being attracted to your sexually compatible gender is abnormal. In psychology having an abnormal mental condition is insanity.
It is nothing to do with being politically correct. Actually try reading the link I gave you, properly. The doctor himself said specifically that there had never been any scientific evidence to point out that homosexuality was a mental illness.

Your definition of insanity is far too strict. You seem to imply that any kind of deviance equates to insanity, which would be a hilarious overstatment. There is simply no one who doesn't deviate in some way, be it in sexual orientation, religious views, political views, even behaviour in a certain circumstance. Therefore, deviation is paradoxically normal, leaving the whole function of the term "insanity" to break down.

You have to be more flexible with your terminology or it will not hold up against any proper semantical argument. In this case, you should use "insanity" only to refer to a state in which a person no longer functions as a part of society. Homosexuality is not crippling in those terms.
Psychology is a very heuristic science. There is a "normal mental condition" based on subconscious punishment/reward responses (such things as self preservation, revulsion to cannibalism, and the desire to procreate). Many of these can readily be suppressed by conscious thought but in general a mental illness is either the lacking of these faculties or possessing them in overabundance.

Homosexuality would be a lack of the desire to procreate. And before you point out homosexual couples who raise children realize that the desire to have children is conscious while the desire to make children is subconscious.

Also realize that I have nothing against homosexual people, just homosexuality.
 

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I'm predjudiced against gay men myself. I have nothing against Lesbians in general, and before anyone comments this is not entirely because of porn (most real Lesbains tend to not be all that good looking).

This is because I believe that when you get down to it, gay men are invariably interested in pre-sexual humans with various degress of repression there. We're not talking teens (who are called "Jailbait" for a reason). I was attacked by a gay man when I was like six (and lukily repressed the memory). On top of that there are groups like NAMBLA that despite being publically rebuked by the gay rights community, manage to get enough support and money to field such amazing lawyers to defend gay pedophilles that world class casinos are afraid to cross them (I know this because I was security at one and they were scared of us actually doing anything because of NAMBLA, this amounting to an off-the-record directive not to get involved unless we saw someone actually being molested during Code Adam training). Not to mention the fact that it seems in the news that I've heard plenty of reports of "psycho daddies losing control and molesting their young boys, yet I can't think of many (if any) examples of a Lesbian version, except maybe in things like wierd Anime porn (and still examples elude me). Then of course you've also got exposes on the sex tourism trade over the years and how popular young boys are, and how some parents apparently take their young sons overseas so they can pimp them out to gays taking vacations for that reason in relative safety... and making a bundle on it (shows like the old "Inside Edition" or "Hard Copy" used to deal with topics like that specifically because it was shocking).

So yeah, I'm a bigot, and have no guilt over being one. My opinions come from actual experience and observations. Religion, morality, and other things don't enter into the equasion.

In the past I've waffled on the subject into thinking that gay men might be okay, and the pre-sexual molestors might be a tiny minority, but something always happens to snap me back.

See, adults with teens is bad enough (and is illegal for a reason, the only kind of underage sex I support is between two teens), but I can at least understand that on some level. But when you get into kids who aren't even sexually developed/active that's a real problem, and it's been a part of male homosexuality going back to Ancient Greece and Rome.

I'm sure many are going to disagree with me, this is simply my thoughts/opinion/attitude.

To the OP, all I can say is Kudos for your friend for not bowing to political correctness and all the propaganda. Today all you reall see is pro-gay messages, and knock down arguements against it largely given a platform by the gay rights movement because of their ridiculousness (ie most of the religious and moral problems with homosexuality).

Your friend and I might disagree about lesbians however, since I have seperated the homosexual "group" into two parts as far as my opinions go, as I feel gay men and Lesbians are two entirely differant ballgames (so to speak).

>>>----Therumancer--->
 

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Therumancer said:
So yeah, I'm a bigot, and have no guilt over being one. My opinions come from actual experience and observations. Religion, morality, and other things don't enter into the equasion.

In the past I've waffled on the subject into thinking that gay men might be okay, and the pre-sexual molestors might be a tiny minority, but something always happens to snap me back.

See, adults with teens is bad enough (and is illegal for a reason, the only kind of underage sex I support is between two teens), but I can at least understand that on some level. But when you get into kids who aren't even sexually developed/active that's a real problem, and it's been a part of male homosexuality going back to Ancient Greece and Rome.

I'm sure many are going to disagree with me, this is simply my thoughts/opinion/attitude.

To the OP, all I can say is Kudos for your friend for not bowing to political correctness and all the propaganda. Today all you reall see is pro-gay messages, and knock down arguements against it largely given a platform by the gay rights movement because of their ridiculousness (ie most of the religious and moral problems with homosexuality).

Your friend and I might disagree about lesbians however, since I have seperated the homosexual "group" into two parts as far as my opinions go, as I feel gay men and Lesbians are two entirely differant ballgames (so to speak).
i dont think that pedophiles actually are gays or not. they are attracted by childrens, not by males, that happened to be childrens. Relating homosexuality to pedophilia isnt a valid point in my opinion.

i also failed to see when lesbian are gays are two separate group. Both group are attracted to the same gender as they are. why the separation ? You arguments that most lesbian are not attractive is bias too. You notified only the butch type, because you will not notified the feminine type. hang out in lesbian bar, and you will see...

Eldritch Warlord said:
Also realize that I have nothing against homosexual people, just homosexuality.
i really want to know how that's possible. how can you separate homosexuality from homosexuals ?
 

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinions I suppose, but they're still people and I don't see why people have to be so hostile towards them. Cliche as it sounds. It's still true. We're all human, and sexual orientation shouldn't effect how much we like or dislike a person.
 

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cathou said:
Eldritch Warlord said:
Also realize that I have nothing against homosexual people, just homosexuality.
i really want to know how that's possible. how can you separate homosexuality from homosexuals ?
How is it possible to separate leprosy from lepers? (extreme example, but I think you see the point)
 

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cathou said:
Therumancer said:
So yeah, I'm a bigot, and have no guilt over being one. My opinions come from actual experience and observations. Religion, morality, and other things don't enter into the equasion.

In the past I've waffled on the subject into thinking that gay men might be okay, and the pre-sexual molestors might be a tiny minority, but something always happens to snap me back.

See, adults with teens is bad enough (and is illegal for a reason, the only kind of underage sex I support is between two teens), but I can at least understand that on some level. But when you get into kids who aren't even sexually developed/active that's a real problem, and it's been a part of male homosexuality going back to Ancient Greece and Rome.

I'm sure many are going to disagree with me, this is simply my thoughts/opinion/attitude.

To the OP, all I can say is Kudos for your friend for not bowing to political correctness and all the propaganda. Today all you reall see is pro-gay messages, and knock down arguements against it largely given a platform by the gay rights movement because of their ridiculousness (ie most of the religious and moral problems with homosexuality).

Your friend and I might disagree about lesbians however, since I have seperated the homosexual "group" into two parts as far as my opinions go, as I feel gay men and Lesbians are two entirely differant ballgames (so to speak).
i dont think that pedophiles actually are gays or not. they are attracted by childrens, not by males, that happened to be childrens. Relating homosexuality to pedophilia isnt a valid point in my opinion.

i also failed to see when lesbian are gays are two separate group. Both group are attracted to the same gender as they are. why the separation ? You arguments that most lesbian are not attractive is bias too. You notified only the butch type, because you will not notified the feminine type. hang out in lesbian bar, and you will see...

Eldritch Warlord said:
Also realize that I have nothing against homosexual people, just homosexuality.
i really want to know how that's possible. how can you separate homosexuality from homosexuals ?
Easily.

I don't hate Black people, just the black part of them.

It's ridiculous. But, "I do not agree with what you are saying, but I will fight to the death, your right to say it."
 

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Tell him, from me, that he's a tit. Also, just let him know that he can think what he likes as long as he doesn't bang on about it.
This.

As long as he doesn't harrass the crap out of them (No pun intended) he wont have a need to hate them. Same as Agnostic people: We dont personally belive in god, but we dont go running around to doors saying "God Doesnt Exist!!! / There is NO God!!" etc.
 

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Once again, I have no problem with gays, but I am a little confused about something. A lot of times, in a gay relationship you will see one of the men is much more feminine than even a lot of women, and in lesbian relationships one of the partners is a masculine "butch" woman. With one partner taking on a role of the opposite sex, doesn't this sort of defeat the point of being gay? (besides the physical attraction part)

Edit: And yes I realize not ALL homosexual relationships are this way.
 

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As long as he doesn't yell in gay people's faces or act violently then what's the problem? It really annoys me when people preach about tolerance for all people and in the same breath condemn those who are prejudiced.
 

cathou

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Symp4thy said:
Once again, I have no problem with gays, but I am a little confused about something. A lot of times, in a gay relationship you will see one of the men is much more feminine than even a lot of women, and in lesbian relationships one of the partners is a masculine "butch" woman. With one partner taking on a role of the opposite sex, doesn't this sort of defeat the point of being gay? (besides the physical attraction part)
there is no separation like that. you dont ask at the first date : ok who's the man, who's the woman ?

i know it happen sometime to have a very feminine guy or a very masculine girl in an homosexual couple, but that's personal preference. honestly, i,m not that attracted by masculine girls. i can guess that since nobody is totally straight or totally gay, a guy leaning toward bisexuality will be more attracted by feminine guys than a guy that is leaning more toward homosexuality
 

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You can't blame homophobes for being homophobic for the same reason you can't blame homosexuals for being homosexual. Neither can help the way they feel. you can blame homophobes for being abusive but not for being freaked out, that's all.

Personally I have NO qualms with same sex relations, but people acting like opposite sex, ie transsexuals, cross dressers, is slightly disturbing and extremely camp men are extremely annoying. homosexuals that just act normal are fine got a couple of friends like that.
 

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Aries_Split said:
SJCrew said:
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SJCrew said:
I must say, my faith in humanity wavers while reading this forum.
Man, I'm getting sick and tired of reading comments like this. Negative Nancies like you shouldn't be granted access to a keyboard.

Didn't we all learn in kindergarten that Martin Luther King Jr. was such a great man because he fought so hard against prejudice and rascism.
Except God didn't have anything against black people. But he does, however, have something against two dudes making out, something I'm ready and willing to stand behind.

I don't agree with the concept of accepting homosexuality, but I am all for the proposition of treating gay people just like any other normal person, provided they aren't waving their fucking cocks in my face to make it clear to the world and everyone in it that they are gay.

This is fucking America! Land of the free and home of the brave! look at the values we where founded on and then look at what he's doing! It goes against what this country is founded upon.
The very same country that allows people the freedom to disapprove of the homosexual lifestyle as they do the right for homosexuals to maintain it. You have no moral high ground.

We as a people deserve just as much as a right to express our beliefs as gay people have a right to express their interest in the same sex. No one deserves prejudice; not in this country and not anywhere else. The dislike for homosexuality should be restricted to homosexuality itself, not the practitioners.
If you worship a God that disapproves of homosexuals, then you worship the Devil. If you take apart the original translations of the Bible books, the Devil is the angel of judgment.
Nice try, but according to Ezekiel, Lucifer was the angel of music.

And no, God does not disapprove of homosexuals, as he has unconditional love for all of mankind, but rather he disapproves of homosexuality. There's a difference. I don't have to like that fact that a man is interested in other men just to get along with him.
I propose Judas' law.

The second you bring forth argumentative ammunition from an ancient fictitious novel in a battle of human rights is the second you lose any credibility whatsoever.
Here here.
 

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Unfortunately your friend might be a little closed-minded for todays society, a society where we have become more accepting of gays and more tolerant to the ideas of gay marriage, topics which have never been discussed in an open light before. Your friend has their own beliefs which could in part be because of what his parents believe or he might have thought them on his own. It could simply be that because he's going through puberty he's confused as to what he's really feeling in terms of sexuality, as the influence of hormones during those years is confusing at the best of times. It's a complex issue, but he has nothing to fear from the gay community and I'm sure as he grows older and matures he will realise the mistake he has made.
 

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ColdStorage said:
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Let him have his prejudice, its his choice.

Shame though, its nice, I have gay friends who do my hair, and they make me look fantastic.
I wish I knew more gay people :( They seem so fun and happy!
They are actually, the best nights out in London are gay bars by far, I'm off this weekend actually with a big group, the only problem I have is "cruisers".

Cruisers are gay guys that specifically go after straight males, and I dont blame them, what with my fantastic hair! (and dolce and gabanna shirt)
Haha, be careful, you don't want to turn over to the RAINBOW Side.
firstly excellent use of colours, it looks fabulous darling!, really brings out your eyes.

Secondly, i've got a rainbow in my pic already.
Took me a long time to do the rainbow, but I figure it was worth it.