my mom HATES violent video games
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*gasp* You don't know about N64 kid?! Youtube it, it's hilarious.stinkychops said:
It's not, but I don't agree with ESRB basically doing the parenting thing for the parents, from what the OP said, his mom is just being stubborn about it and taking ESRB's word for it, even though she said she'd buy the same game that ESRB told her not to.
jagula_sector said:
simply put she's an extremist and you're not likely to change her mind my friend. You can give her all the evidence in the world, but as long as she wants to believe it will fry you brain you're out of luck. And that's aside from the fact that TECHNICALLY you're not legally old enough to play them without her permission regardless (M = 17+ after all) so really, untill 4 years has passed you're kinda out of luck . . .
Although I'd give her examples about the kind of kids that DO go nuts and shoot everyone like the columbine children, or the the VTech kids . . . how they weren't average great grade students, but emo loners that spent 18+ hours a day playing games and were building "things" their parents had no clues about in the garage and were neglected not looked after.
Show her that she does care about you and has been careful not to raise a closet psychopath and that therefore you're safe from the possible poison of the games. I doubt it will work but it's worth a shot right?
It's a tough one, I personally think ratings are guide lines for parents
ie it's down to the parent what he/she lets you watch, things like an 18 certificate film (UK Rating) doesnt mean their 17 year old can't watch it with them, if they think their child can deal with whats on the film.
At the age of 10 I had already seen films like Aliens, Terminator and Predator.
First time I'd seen them was with parents, they could gauge my reaction. I loved sci-fi, and loved art so the special effects inspired me. I didn't start killing people, swearing or having nightmares due to the films so was therefore allowed my own copies.
But when it comes to games;
say your average story takes 10 - 15 hours to complete. Online can be unpredictable ie your not going to see every possible scenario play out in just a couple of matches. Therefore it's hard for a parent to vet the games to see if they're ok for their child, so I don't blame them for following the rating system closely.
Least your mum is responsible, and not letting the console be the babysitter as it were
EDIT:
As long as there is a rating system (for those who seem against such a thing) at least when some kid goes postal and murders someone, commits suicide, assaults someone etc. and the media or game haters blame games, we gamers will always have the instant come back of "well that's what the rating system is for"
ie it's down to the parent what he/she lets you watch, things like an 18 certificate film (UK Rating) doesnt mean their 17 year old can't watch it with them, if they think their child can deal with whats on the film.
At the age of 10 I had already seen films like Aliens, Terminator and Predator.
First time I'd seen them was with parents, they could gauge my reaction. I loved sci-fi, and loved art so the special effects inspired me. I didn't start killing people, swearing or having nightmares due to the films so was therefore allowed my own copies.
But when it comes to games;
say your average story takes 10 - 15 hours to complete. Online can be unpredictable ie your not going to see every possible scenario play out in just a couple of matches. Therefore it's hard for a parent to vet the games to see if they're ok for their child, so I don't blame them for following the rating system closely.
Least your mum is responsible, and not letting the console be the babysitter as it were
EDIT:
As long as there is a rating system (for those who seem against such a thing) at least when some kid goes postal and murders someone, commits suicide, assaults someone etc. and the media or game haters blame games, we gamers will always have the instant come back of "well that's what the rating system is for"
He would probably be right about that one.CJ1145 said:
Hate to break it to you, but logic is never a part of making decisions. You make gut reactions instantly, then go back and fill in the rest as to why you did it. The only thing that experience will teach you is how did this play out beforehand and what changes should be made on the fly. As for the parent, she made a gut reaction about the game, deemed it too violent, and that is where it ends. We can love or hate her decisions, but she is still in charge of the original poster until he moves out.
According to some on this thread, I would probably be considered the worst parent in the world because I would be too permissive. I would not mind my kid playing Call of Duty whatever for the simple reason that I know how real guns work. My dad is a militia type that has many unregistered guns and he taught me how to use all of them. I have used so a lot of weapons, so many that it puts any hardcore gun nut to shame. (Well, that and he taught me so many other things that it is not even funny. I can cause so much domestic terrorism right now that it is not even funny.)
Anyway, I would allow my child to play violent video games because pretend violence is not real violence. I find it funny that some parents are willing to condemn video games, but they love things like the Passion of the Christ, or Tom and Jerry.
Still what I do and would not do is irrelevant.
By the same token the older I get, the less I like meaningless violence. It may be that by the time I was 13 the most violent thing we had was Diablo. Good ol' Battle.net .... playing on a 56.6k modem ... collecting ears from my noobish friends that joined my server every friday afternoon.
Point is that games HAVE gotten more violent. Not so much because of the greater immersion through the graphics of modern computers and consoles. Not because of any willingness to pursue more violent media. It is simply because of the level of interactivity one has with the rest of the world.
Nowadays you can blister 8 other guys within half a minute with a machine gun, in maps that include destructible terrain and the inevitability of encountering greater human response. For instance; play Halo games online and kill/get killed, you're likely to receive one of two things ... gamer-rage, or get teabagged.
The incidence of these events is reduced significantly by the age of the player that has been affected by your actions. Hear the dribble 13 yr olds say on XBL? Maybe your mum doesn't want to become one of those idiots you hear online.
Some of the stuff I hear you kids spewing out of your cakeholes would make Billy Connolly blush. Seriously scary stuff. In an COD:MW1 map ... I congratulated the other team after a stirling DW performance in Crash in which they came back from behind ... I wasn't really expecting a response. But a squeeky-voiced brat started chewing up the vc ... everytime he was killed.
Got to the point that he was kicked because everybody was fed up with him.
Anyways ... I'm not big on censorship of violence ... I just wish they'd censor the verbal violence. Games are meant to be enjoyed ... not turn into dramas.
Point is, maybe your mum is trying to protect you from that. Can't say I blame her. Gotta remember that parents have become extremely tech-savvy in the last ten years.
My generation? Parents didn't know squat about the internet. Nowadays? Parents know alot about the crap you find circulating the global electronic highways that penetrate our existence every second, of every day.
Hell, if I was a father I'd limit what my kids heard on the internet because alot of it that seems innocent enough is filled with mature content that needs to be controlled. These kids on XBL .... if they were MY kids they wouldn't see their consoles ever again if I heard them say half the crap they seem to online.
Point is that games HAVE gotten more violent. Not so much because of the greater immersion through the graphics of modern computers and consoles. Not because of any willingness to pursue more violent media. It is simply because of the level of interactivity one has with the rest of the world.
Nowadays you can blister 8 other guys within half a minute with a machine gun, in maps that include destructible terrain and the inevitability of encountering greater human response. For instance; play Halo games online and kill/get killed, you're likely to receive one of two things ... gamer-rage, or get teabagged.
The incidence of these events is reduced significantly by the age of the player that has been affected by your actions. Hear the dribble 13 yr olds say on XBL? Maybe your mum doesn't want to become one of those idiots you hear online.
Some of the stuff I hear you kids spewing out of your cakeholes would make Billy Connolly blush. Seriously scary stuff. In an COD:MW1 map ... I congratulated the other team after a stirling DW performance in Crash in which they came back from behind ... I wasn't really expecting a response. But a squeeky-voiced brat started chewing up the vc ... everytime he was killed.
Got to the point that he was kicked because everybody was fed up with him.
Anyways ... I'm not big on censorship of violence ... I just wish they'd censor the verbal violence. Games are meant to be enjoyed ... not turn into dramas.
Point is, maybe your mum is trying to protect you from that. Can't say I blame her. Gotta remember that parents have become extremely tech-savvy in the last ten years.
My generation? Parents didn't know squat about the internet. Nowadays? Parents know alot about the crap you find circulating the global electronic highways that penetrate our existence every second, of every day.
Hell, if I was a father I'd limit what my kids heard on the internet because alot of it that seems innocent enough is filled with mature content that needs to be controlled. These kids on XBL .... if they were MY kids they wouldn't see their consoles ever again if I heard them say half the crap they seem to online.
Everyone claims to be mature for their age, it doesn't mean they actually are in anyone else's eyes. Your mother doesn't want you playing the game, so don't play it. It's not really that big of a deal.
You know what my mother refused to allow me to play when I was young? Dungeons & Dragons, I shit you not. It happens, you get over it. I still love my mom, and I'm not even interested in D&D any more.
You know what my mother refused to allow me to play when I was young? Dungeons & Dragons, I shit you not. It happens, you get over it. I still love my mom, and I'm not even interested in D&D any more.
I love parents like that. My ex girlfriend's sister had an interesting time with her kid about ratings. She did the wrong thing and told her 8 year old that he cannot watch movies that are above PG-13 until he was 12 or whatever. Anyway, when the first Harry Potter movie came out, her church was against it. So she lied to kid and told him that it was PG-13 and the kid bought it. She told the sister about it and I said, "the movie is PG and not PG-13." The parent tried to say something like, "well it has themes my husband and I do not consider appropriate for out child." I then told her, "Why didn't you try that instead? If he discovers that movies is PG, he will call you on it and pitch a fit in the video store until you give in." She pretended that I did not know what I was talking about. Well, 3 weeks later, she was in the living room of her house watching Harry Potter and as she was doing that, she gave me evil looks like she was saying, "How did you know this would happen?" I smiled in all the arrogance my 25 year old form could muster.Eggsnham said:
Okay so I am pretty much not contributing much to the thread that hasn't been said, but a high IQ has absolutely nothing to do with maturity. If you're making an appeal to The Escapist, you better have a more reasoned argument then that.
I myself am 14 but I am able to make my parents believe that I am mature enough to handle things. The trick I used is to never ask for much. If you do this, the parents will be more inclined to give you what you DO ask for.
I myself am 14 but I am able to make my parents believe that I am mature enough to handle things. The trick I used is to never ask for much. If you do this, the parents will be more inclined to give you what you DO ask for.
I'm not American, but I assume that these age ratings are theoretically law enforced.Eggsnham said:
You can't decide to say, my son can play M games even though he is 13 because he is mature and sensible. The law applies to everyone regardless of that persons maturity. What if a friend comes over who isn't mature and wants to play. Would that be fair, as the adult would be unable to adequetly judge the maturity of the friend?
Nahh 15 is really old enough. If by 15 you can't handle all the sex and violence in the media then your parents did something wrong. Although I really don't think Modern Warfare 2 is all that violent. There not nearly as much blood in it compared to Fallout 3 or Dead Rising. Hey 13's a tough age. You're too old for most of the traditional kids stuff and too young for most teen stuff. Theres not much you can do about it. I'm going to have to agree with your mother 13's too young to be playing M rated games. I wasn't allowed to play Doom when I was 13.Gxas said:
Your best bet is to just suck it up and deal with it. Keep getting good grades, stay out of trouble, and sure you can be a mature responsible person.
Edit: How did you manage to buy Modern Warfare 2? I'm 25 and game stores still ask to see my ID.
I realize this horse has been ridden into the ground, its leg broken, and been shot out of kindness, but I just want to say this:
You really type like you're extremely mature for your age. I would absolutely believe you are emotionally able to deal with the material present in games like God of War and The Punisher, accepting the release video games can offer from stress through ultraviolence whilst at the same time acknowledging the fantastical and satirical nature of such games and refusing to allow it to interfere with your daily life or attitudes about life.
You really type like you're extremely mature for your age. I would absolutely believe you are emotionally able to deal with the material present in games like God of War and The Punisher, accepting the release video games can offer from stress through ultraviolence whilst at the same time acknowledging the fantastical and satirical nature of such games and refusing to allow it to interfere with your daily life or attitudes about life.
Woodsey said:
What I'm getting at is the fact that his mom does not want him playing those types of games in her house. Therefore, he is not allowed to play them. When he moves out, he is allowed to play whatever he wants to play.CD-R said:
I really don't give a fuck if this kid is mature, as I've said in some of my later posts in this thread. If the parent doesn't want the kid playing the game, that is final. In the parent's house, their rule is law. End of story. Period.
