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drisky

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Gxas said:
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well thats my issue, I live in a dorm now and I'm 21 but I'm not allowed to have M games, also I was'nt allowed to have T games until I was 15, despite the fact that I am an honors student and never got in to trouble. Just take Uncharted 2 and be happy with it, its better than MW2 anyways.
You live in a dorm and aren't allowed to play M games? Something is missing in your story that makes it seriously flawed.
Sorry allow me to clarify, my mother doesn't want me playing them and doesn't know that I do, I can't by games in front of her or let her see them when I bring them home for vacation, my point is even though I live on my own most of the time, my mother is still trying to be overprotective and controlling, she can't, but she tryies, I'm just saying the OP has it easy in comparison and just needs to appreciate what he has.
 

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M rating doesn't stand for Manly thirteen year old with high IQ. Just because its a game it doesn't mean its right for all ages. And just because YOU think you are mature enough for it doesn't make it so. And kudos to your mom for acting like a parent.
 

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Yep, definitely going to join the side of "the game is rated [M/17+/whatever it is in your region] for a reason". If you aren't legally old enough to buy it your Mum shouldn't let you play it. She's showing an awareness that's regrettably uncommon these days.

I know it feels unfair and generally sucks, but just think you get to do that to your own kids some day. ;)
 

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drisky said:
Gxas said:
drisky said:
well thats my issue, I live in a dorm now and I'm 21 but I'm not allowed to have M games, also I was'nt allowed to have T games until I was 15, despite the fact that I am an honors student and never got in to trouble. Just take Uncharted 2 and be happy with it, its better than MW2 anyways.
You live in a dorm and aren't allowed to play M games? Something is missing in your story that makes it seriously flawed.
Sorry allow me to clarify, my mother doesn't want me playing them and doesn't know that I do, I can't by games in front of her or let her see them when I bring them home for vacation, my point is even though I live on my own most of the time, my mother is still trying to be overprotective and controlling, she can't, but she tryies, I'm just saying the OP has it easy in comparison and just needs to appreciate what he has.
Ahh ok, I get what you mean. Yeah, I understand, but like I said, it is her house, her rules. If she doesn't want those types of games in her house then there's not much you can do about it is there?
 

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Its a generation thing clearly, apart from the fact that by law you shouldnt beplaying these games ( not that everything illegal should be, like pot for example!)

They come from an age where the media already has its claws into everyone over 40, we are lucky, we have a real chance to ignore media hype and become stronger than the sum of our parts.

but dude... Seriously. Why rush to grow up? my youth went like a flash and now id give everything to be 13 again.

Life is lovely, enjoy your age and forgive your mum. You will be a parent one day and then you will feel exactly the same.!
 

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Gxas said:
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Ignoring the fact that he's apparently illiterate, you can't just come up with that - if a 13-year-old is mature then it makes no odds of their actual age.

Obviously if he's a little prick then you don't let him play.
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Nahh 15 is really old enough. If by 15 you can't handle all the sex and violence in the media then your parents did something wrong. Although I really don't think Modern Warfare 2 is all that violent. There not nearly as much blood in it compared to Fallout 3 or Dead Rising. Hey 13's a tough age. You're too old for most of the traditional kids stuff and too young for most teen stuff. Theres not much you can do about it. I'm going to have to agree with your mother 13's too young to be playing M rated games. I wasn't allowed to play Doom when I was 13.
What I'm getting at is the fact that his mom does not want him playing those types of games in her house. Therefore, he is not allowed to play them. When he moves out, he is allowed to play whatever he wants to play.

I really don't give a fuck if this kid is mature, as I've said in some of my later posts in this thread. If the parent doesn't want the kid playing the game, that is final. In the parent's house, their rule is law. End of story. Period.
Yes, but there's no reason to not at least try to argue the point. If he didn't he wouldn't be human.

If she won't budge then he'll have to deal with it, but there's no harm in pushing it. Especially if he knows he's mature enough, and he can make her see that.
 

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Yes, but there's no reason to not at least try to argue the point. If he didn't he wouldn't be human.

If she won't budge then he'll have to deal with it, but there's no harm in pushing it. Especially if he knows he's mature enough, and he can make her see that.
I don't disagree. But he does need to know when to lie down and accept defeat. Sometimes, that is the most mature thing to do. I mean, if a child were begging you and screaming and whining to play, I certainly wouldn't consider him mature in the slightest.
 

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ohellynot said:
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You're 13. You shouldn't be playing M-rated games. What she did was right as a parent.

Wait until you're 17, then you can play.
The little experiment he did was pretty mature IMO. And "M" stands for mature, not 17.
If you actually read the box, M stands for 17+ at least here in America, I know that it is 15 in other countries. That said, maturity must be proven. I'm sure that the ESRB does not have time to interview every single person purchasing every single game. They had to put an age on the box representing what they thought was a "mature" age. 17 (15) was just what it turned out to be.

Sure, the OP may be mature. Hell, he might even be more mature than I am. But that means nothing. If his mother doesn't see him as mature and goes by the guidelines on the box, so be it. Its her house, her rules.
Associating ones maturity with a number representing age is insulting to them and the parents that raised them (especially if said parents follow those guidelines, they're practically insulting themselves). It's like saying "We know that not ALL of you are immature, in fact we know that there's only one in a million that could ever become mentally ill from playing this game, but we still don't trust you, because you're not 17.) They might as well just flick off anyone who's under 17.
Go talk to the government if you're insulted. I'm just giving you the reasoning behind their motives.
ESRB isn't government funded I think, it's run by a bunch of (idiots if you ask me) guys who just think that every kid in America is stupid and immature until the minute they hit 17, failing to recognize that kids are either mature several years before OR after 17 years of age.
I'm not American, but I assume that these age ratings are theoretically law enforced.
You can't decide to say, my son can play M games even though he is 13 because he is mature and sensible. The law applies to everyone regardless of that persons maturity. What if a friend comes over who isn't mature and wants to play. Would that be fair, as the adult would be unable to adequetly judge the maturity of the friend?
Nope, our rating system is severely flawed, it's unfair and biased. The only thing that people tend to enforce (and not by law) is the part where kids can't buy "M" games if they're under 17 without a parent, and even then I managed to bypass that by getting to know the local Gamestop employees. Parents can buy mature rated games for their kids if they think their kids are mature enough and kids are often allowed to play "M" games at their friends houses unless the parents specify otherwise. I wouldn't have a problem with ESRB if they'd stuck to their rating guidelines from about a decade ago i.e. Blood is "T", violence is "T" and language is "T", the only way for a game to get an "M" rating back then was for it to be a game like Manhunt. Now if you have a drop of blood, more than a single curseword and you have to shoot people throughout the game (pretty much every game to come out in the last 5 or so years) it's rated "M". So while, I am personally allowed to play those games, I still think it's stupid for parents to cling to ESRB when it's so obviously flawed.
 

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S29 Afterlife said:
well I'm 14, and my parents let me have it.
Basically, you have to be good to them.
Do all of the housework, play for a bit, then do more work.
If you're lucky, you'll get a day off.
But hey, doing a lot of work with little playtime is worth it to keep Modern Warfare 2, right?
I went through the same thing, so don't worry about it.
Wow, my mum is totally against me playing 18's, although for some reason she bought me Modern warfare two.. Just because I asked her to. This is the first time she has EVER done that, and I doubt she EVER will again. It's almost as if she didn't see the rating on the box... Also, my Dad sat down and watched me play for a while, and he simply said: "That is disgusting, but do with your free time as you will, just make sure you go and enjoy the outdoors" Seriously, I'm only 15, and I've had MW2 for a while now... I guess it depends on the parents. I think they have the mindset (Usually) that whatever they say is right, and it can take an AWFUL lot of persuasion to convince them otherwise, especially if it's their own child.
 

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All I can tell you is: "Yo momma pwned you. LoLz. ROFL". Aside from the joke tell her to point out any of your friends who were playing M rated games, that have become more violent after it. Tell that the studies that say that violent video-games result in violent children are almost always wrong because they're conducted on teenagers. You know. Hormones. And... So what if your IQ is 134, it's not polite to brag (Mine's 162 and I'm also 13, so what; LoL)
 

Neverseen6

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I am 14 and I have:
Fallout 3
Half-Life 2 @ All the episodes out
Mass effect 2
MW2
Assassin's Creed 2
TF2

And more
I feel sorry for you, man.
 

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I am proud of your mother for watching what you play.

I am, however, curious on what employee let you buy an M rated game. There are laws put in place for a reason.
 

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I am surprised by the amount of people saying that age = maturity.

It doesn't.

Also, try to continue to reason with her, do something and point to your maturity in a subtle way. That's how I had finally managed to obtain Halo at the 'tender' age of 13.

Just don't talk on PSN, things tend to fall out if you sound like mickey mouse :)
 

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Quaidis said:
I am proud of your mother for watching what you play.

I am, however, curious on what employee let you buy an M rated game. There are laws put in place for a reason.
I think his mother came with him to the Store, the rules of an M rating is you have to be 17+ or have a Parent or Guardian with you.
 

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Deofuta said:
I am surprised by the amount of people saying that age = maturity.

It doesn't.

Also, try to continue to reason with her, do something and point to your maturity in a subtle way. That's how I had finally managed to obtain Halo at the 'tender' age of 13.

Just don't talk on PSN, things tend to fall out if you sound like mickey mouse :)
I agree, I define Maturity by how people act, if people act racist or stuff like that, i define them immature
And also my brother (Who has like, 14 or so at the time) got Halo, and I think it's more deserving of the M rating than 3 is (For instance: meleeing corpses = blood spray, but the blood only comes out if you shoot them in 3)
And I do hate people who sound like Mickey.
 

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Neverseen6 said:
Quaidis said:
I am proud of your mother for watching what you play.

I am, however, curious on what employee let you buy an M rated game. There are laws put in place for a reason.
I think his mother came with him to the Store, the rules of an M rating is you have to be 17+ or have a Parent or Guardian with you.
Oh? He stated that he bought the game a few days after Christmas with his own hard-earned chips. Ah well, you are probably right. At least the mother noticed the violence in the game and made him stop. Accidents aside, that is good parenting right there.

I fail to understand the hype in children for M rated games. Teen and 'everyone' games are just as fun if not more so in some instances; after all, look at Ratchet and Clank. In fact, the only time I purchase an M rated game is to let off steam after a particularly bad day at work. No More Heroes is perfect for this, as is God of War. The other list of games in my collection are rated up the wall and they are all still fun.
 

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Gxas said:
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Yes, but there's no reason to not at least try to argue the point. If he didn't he wouldn't be human.

If she won't budge then he'll have to deal with it, but there's no harm in pushing it. Especially if he knows he's mature enough, and he can make her see that.
I don't disagree. But he does need to know when to lie down and accept defeat. Sometimes, that is the most mature thing to do. I mean, if a child were begging you and screaming and whining to play, I certainly wouldn't consider him mature in the slightest.
Of course not, but it doesn't seem like he's done that. From what I could understand, she seems to be being a little unreasonable.

Although a 13-year-old wanting to watch/play something will always give the single-most biased explanation known to man.
 

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Quaidis said:
Oh? He stated that he bought the game a few days after Christmas with his own hard-earned chips. Ah well, you are probably right. At least the mother noticed the violence in the game and made him stop. Accidents aside, that is good parenting right there.

I fail to understand the hype in children for M rated games. Teen and 'everyone' games are just as fun if not more so in some instances; after all, look at Ratchet and Clank. In fact, the only time I purchase an M rated game is to let off steam after a particularly bad day at work. No More Heroes is perfect for this, as is God of War. The other list of games in my collection are rated up the wall and they are all still fun.
Agreed, there are plenty of really awesome E and T games, the R&C series, Jak and Daxter, among others
 

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iq:134 extremely mature for my age
If you think quoting your IQ makes you seem intellegent, then more than likely, the opposite is true.

You are 13, M is for MATURE. Just because you answered a few questions correctly does not mean you can play violent games without effects on your personality. You're far, far too hormonal to play COD4 without shrieking at every misfortune.

To be fair, a lot of 20 year olds do this as well, but they're allowed, because they're Gwoan Ups.

Please don't think that because this is a gaming forum we will back any Johnny-Come-Lately with a sob story. No offence, but your mum is right, get over it.