I respect the fact that you're not a fan of A7X. and I'm perfectly fine with that. Not everyone is. But that band made me start to like music again. That is until I heard what we have now. uggh.thecaptainof said:
My music rant
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Slug! (I was on the other side of the river when I heard Atmosphere, but I knew before I clicked the link where that was going.)EXPLICITasian said:
AAR-All American Rejects. Mainstream rock band. Bland as tapioca pudding with cardboard sprinkles.Taerdin said:What's AAR? Also a short list of songs that you found deep meaning in would be great, if you could like PM it to me or post it hereMichael_McCloud said:
As for which songs I find deep in meaning... The list rather depends upon whether or not you can understand Japanese or Russian.
Otherwise, I'd recommend Coldplay as a more popular band. Some of their songs are incredibly deep once you listen to them, while others are your average love songs (though they're still done well enough to strike some emotion). Death And All His Friends and Clocks are particularly deep IMO.
I don't know your tastes, so I don't know about how you are on metal. If you like it, I'd suggest Disturbed and Avenged Sevenfold. Both have their share of twisted works and generic "I'm angry" songs, but there's a few gems scattered about (Disturbed's Enough, Avenged Sevenfold's I Won't See You Tonight Part 1).
Now if you want some really meaningful work, go for Opeth. Their softer songs have a great deal of depth to them. Windowpane and Death Whispered a Lullaby are good ones to start with.
I'm not sure where I'll be leading you with this, though, for all I know you're looking for something completely different. That's the problem with appeal, it's a relative value. I hope this helps, though.
Well I saw the Rap bashing coming a mile away to be honest, I won't even get into attempting to convince you otherwise on it though.Michael_McCloud said:
Mainstream music will always be like this, because it is for either the mindless masses to consume, or for those that just enjoy the base sounds and nothing more, and yes there are people out there like this.
What you say is how I felt for a while, but my stance on that changed, and I believe that even in mainstream music there are people who still project meaning through their music, but mainstream music is business, and will stay that way when people decide a good living through mindless generic music is better than a below average one through deep and meaningful music.
sweet people on the internet know about groups my friends have no idea aboutRufusMcLaser said:
... I like Lucy Ford the best outta their Albums, i need to get some of the sad clown CD's too, i feel like im missing out... I like it cause he focuses more on the lyrics, other than just bullshit like soulja boy and other main stream artists do... and he raps about things people actually go throughI usually hate to link straight to Wikipedia articles, but it kinda says everything I'd want to:Taerdin said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-rock
If you'd rather have specific examples of bands to check out, my favourites would probably be Mono, Mogwai, Explosions In The Sky and Godspeed You! Black Emperor.
I heard about that buy-out. Tough break. I can't imagine how BAD those DJ's must be compare to the WBLI DJ's. They are FUCKING TERRIBLE Hear hear. My Zune has what I want and love.Bored Tomatoe said:
Now now, I'm not bashing the entire rap genre. I just don't much care for the newer, "look how badass I am/we're gonna fuck you up" drivel we've got now.ChromeAlchemist said:
You're looking in the wrong places. It's easy to look at the face of modern music but look around and you'll find some stuff more to your liking, with real "soul" to it, mostly bands that write music to get across a point, then work at making it sound nice, compared to something average and forgettable that will make some money and fade into obscurity, as most music today does.
I'm so not into bashing music in general, I believe any genre can be moving and real. It frustrates me to no end when people do this to me though. I've had friends tell me that metal can't be beautiful, and it like deeply offended me because I see the beauty in it all the time. Even if you're not into heavy thrash or death metal theres like easier going progressive stuff that may not even have distortion which is just amazing.Michael_McCloud said:
Also someone call Evergrey 'angry music' just because it was loud and heavy.... Evergrey is probably the saddest band I know... I'd never call them angry, more like beautifully depressed.
Anyways, I already listen to Opeth too, and they are rather good. Thanks a lot for all the suggestions folks, I always love to broaden my music experience
Ok fair enough then, but because you said rap and some of the more popular rock it seemed like you were vilifying the entire genre there.Michael_McCloud said:
True there is a great deal of that in the mainstream, but there is so much tht has such a deep meaning and a great deal of thought put into them that people do not see. Not to set a challenge for anyone but for the amount of artists that people could tell me that have guns and hoes I could probably tell them two that don't and have real meaning or positive messages put into them.
But anyway I digress, that is a rant within a rant thread. :¬D
I'm listening to them now thanks to this thread, and I must say I like. I like a lot. Thanks people.Taerdin said:I'm so not into bashing music in general, I believe any genre can be moving and real. It frustrates me to no end when people do this to me though. I've had friends tell me that metal can't be beautiful, and it like deeply offended me because I see the beauty in it all the time. Even if you're not into heavy thrash or death metal theres like easier going progressive stuff that may not even have distortion which is just amazing.Michael_McCloud said:
Also someone call Evergrey 'angry music' just because it was loud and heavy.... Evergrey is probably the saddest band I know... I'd never call them angry, more like beautifully depressed.
Anyways, I already listen to Opeth too, and they are rather good. Thanks a lot for all the suggestions folks, I always love to broaden my music experience
EDIT: I will say though that I have read they are firmly rooted in scandanavian death metal, and so far I only like their slower songs. I honestly can't say that I like death metal, I have always said that I like everything but death metal because it just doesn't seem to be my thing. If anyone has a band they thing is the best thing since sliced bread, show me a link.
Eh. I think that music is still alive and kicking. 2007 was one of my favorite years in memory for music, and 2008 had its share of good stuff as well.
Just because there is nothing good on MTV doesn't mean that its impossible to find anything. And music has certainly not "died".
Just because there is nothing good on MTV doesn't mean that its impossible to find anything. And music has certainly not "died".
I'm right obsessed with this swedish band called Evergrey. Yes musical taste is fairly relative so you may not even enjoy them, but they move me on a regular basis. Here are a couple of my favourites by them in two different flavours. Heavier-ish [http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=JO6Mu6vFO8Y] or softer. [http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=yC83HAT72BY]ChromeAlchemist said:
Both of these songs have seriously saddened me, like as I wrote this I had closure running in the background and felt sadder. I love how they blend beautiful piano into traditional-esque metal, and some songs have powerful female backing vocals too... like In the Wake of the Weary [http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=2iZvQCkpS_4], another personal favourite. Might not be your style though... also youtube is not known for quality... the actual tracks sound slightly better... at least to me
Some of my favorite bands are changing in ways that I do not like, such as KoRn on their new album, which was just...different, I still have hope for KoRn, as some of their new songs have the potential to be awesome...*Fingers crossed that they get David back on the drums*
Disturbed is a whole different story, Their new album was boring and monotonous, trying to have the same heavyness and anger as their previous albums, but ultimately failing and ending up a sad shadow of their former edge. Disturbed will have to release a super kick ass album next time to get my respect back.
Disturbed is a whole different story, Their new album was boring and monotonous, trying to have the same heavyness and anger as their previous albums, but ultimately failing and ending up a sad shadow of their former edge. Disturbed will have to release a super kick ass album next time to get my respect back.
Perhaps the real problem is that the face of music is changing. It's so easy to edit oneself now that using a big corporate label is becoming obsolete and a waste of cash. Of course this also means that there will be more crap for every good, meaningful piece of artwork that there is on the airwaves.
AS far as making you feel something, or perhaps just not singing about love, sex, and being "the best", I would have to argue the Foo Fighters are fairly mainstream but still do a fantastic job of being different. As does Muse. Just because these bands are popular does not mean they are popular because they sing about sex and love.
Yes, every band is going to have some version of a love song (unless it's death metal but sometimes even then) and this doesn't make the band bad, it just means artists can only project what they know. Since people prefer artists who happen to be a bit on the sensitive side at the moment, this is going to involve romantic relations. That's the way the world turns.
However, my ultimate recommendation to beat all other recommendations (As far as techno goes) would be Celldweller. It's true Celldweller is not a live artist, but that's why the band is called Celldweller- it's what he does. He then reinforces this fact by making every song a polished piece of composition that sometimes just plain blows your ears away.
His work can be found here:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=30EF220C39468B96
(ok, perhaps Klayton/Celldweller just gets awesome points for being the only person to make the emo haircut of having the hair draped over one eye look manly.)
AS far as making you feel something, or perhaps just not singing about love, sex, and being "the best", I would have to argue the Foo Fighters are fairly mainstream but still do a fantastic job of being different. As does Muse. Just because these bands are popular does not mean they are popular because they sing about sex and love.
Yes, every band is going to have some version of a love song (unless it's death metal but sometimes even then) and this doesn't make the band bad, it just means artists can only project what they know. Since people prefer artists who happen to be a bit on the sensitive side at the moment, this is going to involve romantic relations. That's the way the world turns.
However, my ultimate recommendation to beat all other recommendations (As far as techno goes) would be Celldweller. It's true Celldweller is not a live artist, but that's why the band is called Celldweller- it's what he does. He then reinforces this fact by making every song a polished piece of composition that sometimes just plain blows your ears away.
His work can be found here:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=30EF220C39468B96
(ok, perhaps Klayton/Celldweller just gets awesome points for being the only person to make the emo haircut of having the hair draped over one eye look manly.)
Floods - Pantera [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nx1nuq1Pt4]
This song gets me through tough times, and even when I'm perfectly fine makes me take a step back and analyze my emotional satisfaction with my life. Plus the outro is guaranteed to send that freaky feeling up my spine(when played on piano is simply awe striking.).
I agree most mainstream music is only in it for the money and/or the popularity it brings, but even they have a rare 'true' song that is inspired and written about real emotions they have felt or currently feeling. It's not that common, but don't try and take what little credit they deserve away.
This song gets me through tough times, and even when I'm perfectly fine makes me take a step back and analyze my emotional satisfaction with my life. Plus the outro is guaranteed to send that freaky feeling up my spine(when played on piano is simply awe striking.).
I agree most mainstream music is only in it for the money and/or the popularity it brings, but even they have a rare 'true' song that is inspired and written about real emotions they have felt or currently feeling. It's not that common, but don't try and take what little credit they deserve away.